Is an OJ Mayo trade realistic?

[kyrv]

Out of interest how does Mayo's defensive rating compare to our own? Keith Bogans and Ashton Korver

They've never had a single season as bad as Mayo's CAREER average.

They aren't good, but like most NBA players, better than Mayo.

Pretty much. Mayo's more talented than both, but I believe he'll never put it together in Memphis.

He definitely still has the dreaded potential, which may have been bullhitter's meaning behind the question.

Nitetrain said that he believes Rose would defer to Mayo, which I would think would be a deal breaker for most people.

[DaBulls82]

Out of interest how does Mayo's defensive rating compare to our own? Keith Bogans and Ashton Korver

They've never had a single season as bad as Mayo's CAREER average.

They aren't good, but like most NBA players, better than Mayo.

Pretty much. Mayo's more talented than both, but I believe he'll never put it together in Memphis.

Agreed - if we can get him on a bargain deal I'd do it. I wouldn't move any of our top 6-7 players for him.

[kyrv]

OJ Mayo has gotten more mileage out of being a great high school player than just about anybody else I've ever seen. I can't understand the infatuation with this guy - he's a classic "SG in a PG body" tweener. He doesn't have great athleticism, can't run a team, takes a ton of bad shots, and is a poor defender. Yet there's still a significant number of people who believe he's got some untapped potential to become one of the league's elite players.

I don't see that Mayo brings anything special to this team worth trading for, honestly. There's no way I'd trade Taj for him, and I'd actually rather keep JJ too.

This is what I've been trying to figure out, and really don't know how to ask it. I guess, my question is, do people who think he would be/will be good - is that based on the thinking he would be good from many years ago?

Is it things he's done in the NBA that say "I'm actually really good"?

[dd2410]

I would KILL for a player like OJ Mayo

I Wouldn't

me neither. he is really a lazy defender.

[TheAdmiral]

Nitetrain said that he believes Rose would defer to Mayo, which I would think would be a deal breaker for most people.

I disagree with nitetrain. I don't see Rose deferring to a guy like Mayo. Mayo's not an alpha-dog like LeBron or Wade are. Rose would have probably deferred to LeBron or Wade, had they joined us in the off-season, but to Mayo? No way.

[cot2]

KC's comment from this weeks mailbag.

"One name I got a lot from fans this week is O.J. Mayo, who appears to be falling out of favor in Memphis. As I've said consistently, I see the Bulls standing pat for now in case the Nuggets shift their thinking regarding Carmelo closer to the February trade deadline. Make a move now and you're out of that game should the rules change. Remember when the Grizzlies changed their trade demands regarding Pau Gasol and the Lakers were in perfect position to give them cap relief? Again, by committee, the shooting guards haven't been terrible. I agree an upgrade would get them closer to title status. But I don't see them doing anything for now."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... 6093.story

[nitric0]

I would KILL for a player like OJ Mayo

I Wouldn't

me neither. he is really a lazy defender.

True. I forgot we had Bogans

[kyrv]

KC's comment from this weeks mailbag.

"One name I got a lot from fans this week is O.J. Mayo, who appears to be falling out of favor in Memphis. As I've said consistently, I see the Bulls standing pat for now in case the Nuggets shift their thinking regarding Carmelo closer to the February trade deadline. Make a move now and you're out of that game should the rules change. Remember when the Grizzlies changed their trade demands regarding Pau Gasol and the Lakers were in perfect position to give them cap relief? Again, by committee, the shooting guards haven't been terrible. I agree an upgrade would get them closer to title status. But I don't see them doing anything for now."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... 6093.story

Thanks - that seems like the smart thing to do unless someone is really giving someone away cheap.

Evaluating the SG situation with Boozer and with little to no Bogans though seems like due diligence.

[twix2500]

OJ Mayo has gotten more mileage out of being a great high school player than just about anybody else I've ever seen. I can't understand the infatuation with this guy - he's a classic "SG in a PG body" tweener. He doesn't have great athleticism, can't run a team, takes a ton of bad shots, and is a poor defender. Yet there's still a significant number of people who believe he's got some untapped potential to become one of the league's elite players.

I don't see that Mayo brings anything special to this team worth trading for, honestly. There's no way I'd trade Taj for him, and I'd actually rather keep JJ too.

I guess you never heard of Sebastian Telfair!!!

[TheAdmiral]

I guess you never heard of Sebastian Telfair!!!

[mccluskey]

OJ Mayo has gotten more mileage out of being a great high school player than just about anybody else I've ever seen. I can't understand the infatuation with this guy - he's a classic "SG in a PG body" tweener. He doesn't have great athleticism, can't run a team, takes a ton of bad shots, and is a poor defender. Yet there's still a significant number of people who believe he's got some untapped potential to become one of the league's elite players.

I don't see that Mayo brings anything special to this team worth trading for, honestly. There's no way I'd trade Taj for him, and I'd actually rather keep JJ too.

I guess you never heard of Sebastian Telfair!!!

Telfair definitely got plenty of hype early (what was it, 7th grade or something when mags started doing features on him) but after a couple seasons in the league people realized, hey, this kid's not nearly as good as we thought. Meanwhile people still talk about Mayo like he's going to turn into the next Kobe Bryant any day now.

I still remember seeing Mayo in an ESPN televised high school game against Eric Gordon's team - the announcers were going on and on about his "pure point guard skills" and I was thinking "are they watching the same game I am?" I thought Gordon was the better player that night and still do.

[BULLHITTER]

Thanks - that seems like the smart thing to do unless someone is really giving someone away cheap.

Evaluating the SG situation with Boozer and with little to no Bogans though seems like due diligence.

while that may be the smart thing to do, i'm reading that statement as the bulls value acquiring anthony as more important than acquiring mayo; THAT i'd agree is the smart thing to do, given mayo's going to be a FA anyway. if a trade is going to be made, i'd suspect asset will be given priority in an anthony acquisition. that doesn't mean (from my interpretation) that they're in any way satisfied with bogans/brewer or have any idea what to expect from boozer's addition. they'll surprise me beyond my wildest imaginings if they go for either with any serious offers.

mayo sooner, or mayo later, IS a needed upgrade.

[kyrv]

Thanks - that seems like the smart thing to do unless someone is really giving someone away cheap.

Evaluating the SG situation with Boozer and with little to no Bogans though seems like due diligence.

while that may be the smart thing to do, i'm reading that statement as the bulls value acquiring anthony as more important than acquiring mayo; THAT i'd agree is the smart thing to do, given mayo's going to be a FA anyway. if a trade is going to be made, i'd suspect asset will be given priority in an anthony acquisition. that doesn't mean (from my interpretation) that they're in any way satisfied with bogans/brewer or have any idea what to expect from boozer's addition. they'll surprise me beyond my wildest imaginings if they go for either with any serious offers.

mayo sooner, or mayo later, IS a needed upgrade.

How is Mayo an upgrade? What are you basing that on? And by that I mean, a significant enough upgrade to warrant using assets and potentially pay more to keep him?

Not just you, I'm just feel like I keep reading, Mayo is a great fit because we say so. And let's pretend Thibs would not change his system to work around Mayo.

[nitetrain8603]

As far as the Bulls, the best thing is to wait to see what happens with Melo. Once that's settled, you either have Melo and have gotten rid of Deng, or it's resolved and you can turn your attention towards getting a better SG.

As far as Rose deferring, I think he respects Mayo a ton. That's why they work out together. He knows him personally and knows he isn't a jagoff. With LeBron, I don't think Rose really respected LeBron.

[nitetrain8603]

Thanks - that seems like the smart thing to do unless someone is really giving someone away cheap.

Evaluating the SG situation with Boozer and with little to no Bogans though seems like due diligence.

while that may be the smart thing to do, i'm reading that statement as the bulls value acquiring anthony as more important than acquiring mayo; THAT i'd agree is the smart thing to do, given mayo's going to be a FA anyway. if a trade is going to be made, i'd suspect asset will be given priority in an anthony acquisition. that doesn't mean (from my interpretation) that they're in any way satisfied with bogans/brewer or have any idea what to expect from boozer's addition. they'll surprise me beyond my wildest imaginings if they go for either with any serious offers.

mayo sooner, or mayo later, IS a needed upgrade.

How is Mayo an upgrade? What are you basing that on? And by that I mean, a significant enough upgrade to warrant using assets and potentially pay more to keep him?

Not just you, I'm just feel like I keep reading, Mayo is a great fit because we say so. And let's pretend Thibs would not change his system to work around Mayo.

Let me ask you this, if the Bulls had a PF rotation that was comparable to their current SG situation, would you automatically dismiss Chris Bosh and say you don't want him on your team?

[The ROY]

As far as the Bulls, the best thing is to wait to see what happens with Melo. Once that's settled, you either have Melo and have gotten rid of Deng, or it's resolved and you can turn your attention towards getting a better SG.

As far as Rose deferring, I think he respects Mayo a ton. That's why they work out together. He knows him personally and knows he isn't a jagoff. With LeBron, I don't think Rose really respected LeBron.

He said Bron was his favorite player coming into the league....So I'm pretty sure he respected him

[Hold That]

^And Noah said the same thing about KG until he played him..




I really don't want Mayo because although I think he fits what we need right now, I just don't think he would be happy with a role of being a 3rd option behind Boozer and Rose.. Yes, Mayo is professional enough to accept the 3rd role or whatever role we give him, at the same time he still has that superstar mentality and want and feels he is good enough to be the main guy or possibly be the 2nd option on this team, when that's not the case.. I would honestly see him leaving us when his contract is up, demanding more than what he's worth.. And all that for the cost of Taj and a Bobcats pick(which would be the very minimum it would take) I'll pass on that..

We see it in Memphis with Gay/Randolph.. Why do people think once he comes too the Bulls he will be happy and play a larger role? All we really need from him is defense at the 2 and knocking down spot up jumpers from time to time.. Thats it.. You really think O.J Mayo will settle for something like that on this team when he feels he's much better? I don't.. Him coming out to the media saying he's not happy says alot about a players mentality.. And trust me his role wouldn't be much bigger here than it is with Memphis..

[nitetrain8603]

As far as the Bulls, the best thing is to wait to see what happens with Melo. Once that's settled, you either have Melo and have gotten rid of Deng, or it's resolved and you can turn your attention towards getting a better SG.

As far as Rose deferring, I think he respects Mayo a ton. That's why they work out together. He knows him personally and knows he isn't a jagoff. With LeBron, I don't think Rose really respected LeBron.

He said Bron was his favorite player coming into the league....So I'm pretty sure he respected him

Michael Jordan was Chamillionaire's favorite player ever and then he met him. Once you meet someone and get to know them, your true opinions start forming. I think it was even said Rose didn't call LeBron to recruit him and when LeBron called him he didn't slurp him off.

[nitetrain8603]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhaHl9re_0&hd=1

The above video should show you, his skills do translate to the NBA and he's very much a capable defender. And he's an excellent run down blocker. I know it's a video though and anyone can look good in those. At the same time, he has legit moves and he's a legit scorer.

[kyrv]

Let me ask you this, if the Bulls had a PF rotation that was comparable to their current SG situation, would you automatically dismiss Chris Bosh and say you don't want him on your team?

Now I'm more confused, what does adding a starting all-star have to do with Mayo?

Bosh is way more productive at PF (and at a big price) than our SG situation, so it would be an obvious upgrade.

Now, back to Mayo?