Nets Recall Terrence Williams

Rockice_8 · Post #1 » by **Rockice_8** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:02 pm

T-Will is now suspended from the team for the next two (Hawks and C's) it appears for being consistently late.

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/inthezzone/comments/nets_punish_williams/

How hard is it to show up on time for something. Really this is just pathetic on his part. They tried to hit his wallet, which seems to not have worked, so now they are hitting his playing time. He is very important to our rotation and he can't make a shoot around. Guys had to play 40+ min with him out so you can see we need him

I don't care that it might have a negative effect on our record because we aren't going anywhere, but I am disappointed in the fact that he is part of our future. We plan on him being a building block with him as our versatile sixth man but he needs to get his head on straight. To be suspended for something so stupid really tells me a lot about his priorities.

I hope he can learn from this cause his abilities are off the chart and I'd love for him to be around for awhile.

God Squad · Post #2 » by **God Squad** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:22 pm

I know its sad. But you never know the real reasons behind closed doors. But he really should arrive on time. Your getting paid millions.

jeff1624 · Post #3 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:37 pm

According to Iannazzone, today is judgement day. He'll either be activated, kept inactive or sent to the D-League.

BigWil17 · Post #4 » by **BigWil17** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:39 pm

Nets send TWill to the d-league http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/inthezzone/comments/nets_demote_terrence_williams_send_him_to_d-league/

Gotta wonder if in the future CBA, they'll allow teams to send players down as punishment. Even though I agree that Avery has to run a tight ship, I have to wonder if it's better to keep him around rather than ship him off to Springfield. If he wasn't responsible before, he'll now have even fewer authority figures around.

bobbyc · Post #5 » by **bobbyc** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:13 pm

How is motivation an issue for Twill. He gets paid, has an opprotunity to play a lot of important minutes for the nets, and he has shown signs of some improvement. Now they are sending him down in order to motivate him to show up on time and work harder. He is officially the biggest looser in the nba this year. How has he gone from the marquee player from the preseason to such a looser. Grow up. And he seemed like such a nice guy.

I like to see this though, no preferential treatment, and it sends a message to the rest of the guys. It could hurt team morale, but if the rumors of him not putting the effort in are true that hurts team morale more IMO.

Star-Lord · Post #6 » by **Star-Lord** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:28 pm

bobbyc wrote:How is motivation an issue for Twill. He gets paid, has an opprotunity to play a lot of important minutes for the nets, and he has shown signs of some improvement. Now they are sending him down in order to motivate him to show up on time and work harder. He is officially the biggest looser in the nba this year. How has he gone from the marquee player from the preseason to such a looser. Grow up. And he seemed like such a nice guy.

I like to see this though, no preferential treatment, and it sends a message to the rest of the guys. It could hurt team morale, but if the rumors of him not putting the effort in are true that hurts team morale more IMO.

Maybe I'll just leave it to someone else to point out the wonderful irony in this post, but I just had to ask: How does Terrence being habitually late mean he's not a nice guy?

bobbyc · Post #7 » by **bobbyc** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:30 pm

We should trade him for Dorell Wright

Star-Lord · Post #8 » by **Star-Lord** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:37 pm

bobbyc wrote:We should trade him for Brendan Wright

Done! No givebacks...

tamarslayer · Post #9 » by **tamarslayer** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:11 pm

bobbyc wrote:We should trade him for Brendan Wright

Over my dead body.

In what twisted world would the Nets benefit from acquiring Brandon Wrong?

bobbyc · Post #10 » by **bobbyc** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:16 pm

CCIIIs Hair wrote:
bobbyc wrote:How is motivation an issue for Twill. He gets paid, has an opprotunity to play a lot of important minutes for the nets, and he has shown signs of some improvement. Now they are sending him down in order to motivate him to show up on time and work harder. He is officially the biggest looser in the nba this year. How has he gone from the marquee player from the preseason to such a looser. Grow up. And he seemed like such a nice guy.

I like to see this though, no preferential treatment, and it sends a message to the rest of the guys. It could hurt team morale, but if the rumors of him not putting the effort in are true that hurts team morale more IMO.

Maybe I'll just leave it to someone else to point out the wonderful irony in this post, but I just had to ask: How does Terrence being habitually late mean he's not a nice guy?

Cause he doesn't care that much about the team and he has no respect for the coaches and their rules. He is getting paid tons of money and a lot of people have put their faith in him, the least he can do is show up on time. Acting really immaturely and disappointing a lot of people is not being nice to the coaches, his teammates, or the fans.

Post #11 » by **jerseyjac** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:48 pm

BigWil17 wrote:Nets send TWill to the d-league http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/inthezzone/comments/nets_demote_terrence_williams_send_him_to_d-league/

Gotta wonder if in the future CBA, they'll allow teams to send players down as punishment. Even though I agree that Avery has to run a tight ship, I have to wonder if it's better to keep him around rather than ship him off to Springfield. If he wasn't responsible before, he'll now have even fewer authority figures around.

nah, I agree 100% w/ this...he's obviously not focused enough to be around the team, for whatever reason....lets just say he didnt take his inactive list well...sorry buddy, you earn your stripes with this team (Avery talking)...and they send him to the D-League for a cool down but also he gets to play in games every night, staying in shape and not just "sittin the bench", frowning and this hole doesnt get any deeper...you almost stop the bleeding...hey a perfect repsonse from Twill would be a 30pt night, triple double or any sort of big games in the dleague...hell, I would take several consitent games in a row from him while playing for the Armor ...

On top of that, his injury probably has something to do with this...he cant just become a jumpshooter, we all know he's not a jumpshooter...maybe he was too anxious to get back on the floor...didn't like how they were bringing him along, ect...

Or even more so, most likely at the same time of all this he was being young and dumb...he knows Avery likes him, but the Nets really had to shorten the leash on him...the Nets put they're foot down and this is a great way of telling him, you are not untouchable...stay focused, come ready to play every night and keep the commments and non-basketball activity to a minimum...you are a professional, this is a job and we expect XY&Z from you....every day...

Twill will be fine, will he ever grow up, I definitely think so, he just has a lot of growing up to do...especially behind the scenes and off the court...

vincecarter4pres · Post #12 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:13 pm

Although this is more than likely mainly on Terrence, this is not the way to handle this.

The D League is not a team set up for in house punishment.
This is not what the D League is for.
If Jose Reyes or Robinson Cano was late to a few team meeings and practice in his second season, would they have been sent down to the minors?

It's also a copout by Avery and his staff and the front office for that matter.

Doesn't help his trade value either.

All around terrible decision. There are better ways to handle stuff like this in house.

It makes a mockery of the D League, sends a bad message about our team and coaching staff and makes our FO look like a joke.

Even if he had become an insufferable bunt cake, you do this stuff quietly and make it look like it was just to get him back in game shape due to his injury as far as the rest of the league and the media is concerned, you don't let it publicly be known this is what you're using your minor league team for and that T Will has gotten this out of hand, you have to keep his image and trade value decent, figuring he is a sought after young player, so if you really have to move him, you get proper return.

tamarslayer · Post #13 » by **tamarslayer** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:35 pm

I don't see anything wrong with this. The dream of every NBA player (well almost every, some players are just about dere MONAY!!1!) is to play in the NBA.

If this public challenge doesn't motivate T-Will nothing well.

Also let's face the facts doing as you said VC was what the old regime did and that didn't exactly work wonders with anyone.

The only thing I don't like is Avery saying there are no minutes for T-Will right now (:lol:), which goes back to what I said a while back about how Avery can be a two-faced SOB.

Just like with Murphy there ARE minutes available, why Avery doesn't adjust the rotation for these guys is beyond me.

It's also been my only real complaint of him to date.

vincecarter4pres · Post #14 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:14 pm

Avery is a very average coach with tendencies that wear thin on everyone in a short period of time.

IMO, there's this love fest for him for two reasons right now, one being we had to suffer through Kiki last season and the other was the love fest with Opie, who Avery is overall similar to in basic styles even if they are different personalities.

And what did the old regime do that didn't work? Please tell me you're not blaming the FO for Sean Williams Bi Polar disorder...

tamarslayer · Post #15 » by **tamarslayer** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:15 pm

He's an above average coach who grates on the nerves of his team, but the point is this is completely on Williams and is not necessarily demeaning to the d-league.

While you / T-Will are looking at the D-League as a punishment why can't it be looked at as a source of inspiration?

Down in the D-League you have a number of no-nonsense players who would kill to play in the NBA. If that kind of dedication to one's craft regardless of how slim the chances of "making it" are doesn't motivate / inspire Williams then maybe he deserves to be booted off the team.

The guy is 23 years old some semblance of professionalism would be nice.

In regards to his trade value... You better believe that in any trade scenario the other team would do their homework and why Williams was sent to the D-League would come out of the bag then, so you're not really gaining anything by window dressing the issues at hand.

Also, by going public you're challenging the guy's pride and putting the rest of the team on notice.

Now I'm not saying the D-League is going to make or break Williams, or that I want to trade him, I'm also going to go on record as saying I don't care what he averages in the D-League.

But if Terrence Williams doesn't show any signs of maturity after his D-League stint at least in my mind he's going to be dangerously close to falling into that category of players who just don't "get it" because they just don't care...

jeff1624 · Post #16 » by **jeff1624** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:18 pm

tamarslayer wrote:The only thing I don't like is Avery saying there are no minutes for T-Will right now (:lol:)

Well, he is right..

WHo needs T-Wills ball handling abilities when we can see Stephen "And 1" Graham play for 15 minutes a night.

BigWil17 · Post #17 » by **BigWil17** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:32 pm

My guess is that they're saying there's no minutes because the D-League really isn't supposed to be used as a punishment. And they want to make it look like the punishment is over and done with, and this is now all basketball related.

Post #18 » by **jerseyjac** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:54 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Although this is more than likely mainly on Terrence, this is not the way to handle this.

The D League is not a team set up for in house punishment.
This is not what the D League is for.
If Jose Reyes or Robinson Cano was late to a few team meeings and practice in his second season, would they have been sent down to the minors?

It's also a copout by Avery and his staff and the front office for that matter.

Doesn't help his trade value either.

All around terrible decision. There are better ways to handle stuff like this in house.

It makes a mockery of the D League, sends a bad message about our team and coaching staff and makes our FO look like a joke.

Even if he had become an insufferable bunt cake, you do this stuff quietly and make it look like it was just to get him back in game shape due to his injury as far as the rest of the league and the media is concerned, you don't let it publicly be known this is what you're using your minor league team for and that T Will has gotten this out of hand, you have to keep his image and trade value decent, figuring he is a sought after young player, so if you really have to move him, you get proper return.

Maybe the Nets tried this already and failed...

Talentfull · Post #19 » by **Talentfull** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:19 am

jeff1624 wrote:
tamarslayer wrote:The only thing I don't like is Avery saying there are no minutes for T-Will right now (:lol:)

Well, he is right..

WHo needs T-Wills ball handling abilities when we can see Stephen "And 1" Graham play for 15 minutes a night.

for real.

Seriously though I don't think sending him to the d-league is the best of options.I doubt he ends up like Sean Williams, but maybe we need to take a step back from these "Williams" guys.

JoseRizal · Post #20 » by **JoseRizal** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:48 am

Talentfull wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
tamarslayer wrote:The only thing I don't like is Avery saying there are no minutes for T-Will right now (:lol:)

Well, he is right..

WHo needs T-Wills ball handling abilities when we can see Stephen "And 1" Graham play for 15 minutes a night.

for real.

Seriously though I don't think sending him to the d-league is the best of options.I doubt he ends up like Sean Williams, but maybe we need to take a step back from these "Williams" guys.

Yeah! What's up with all these Wlliamses...

2006 - Marcus Williams = :burger:

2007 - Sean Williams = :crazy:

2009 - Terrence Williams = :banghead: