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Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#1 » by ray ray » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:18 am

Just for the record , this was a conversation between my friend who spoke with someone that is on the Suns payroll.. I asked for a name but he was unwilling to do so. So take this for whatever its worth. You don't have to believe me, just though you guys would like to know.

Supposedly, the Suns are not willing to commit financially to a mediocre PF unless its a blockbuster trade like bringing Josh Smith/Lamarcus Aldridge/Jokim Noah to the Suns. The only bargaining chip they have is Jason Richardson and many teams are calling for him. But the deals are mediocre at best. According to my friends source, the Bulls have been calling for JRich but are only offering Dang, young players and draft picks. The Suns asked for Noah but they quickly said no. The Suns don't want to commit to Boozer contract since he's had issues staying healthy in the past and he's not that young. They don't want another Hedo issue in their hands.

In their conversation, he mentioned that the Suns are going to let JRich contract expire and will use his money to get Marc Gasol in the off season. Gasol contract expires after this season which is 3.2 mil. They are willing to offer 10-12 mil a year to bring MGasol to. Phx with most of the salary front loaded. They feel very comfortable with a rotation of Childress and Dudley at the shooting guard. That's way they are very reluctant in including Dudley or Childress in any trade. They are actually not opposed of including RLopez if it brings that star power forward (JSmith/LAldridge/Noah)

Believe it or not, their has been four teams that have contacted the Suns and asked about Hedo. I know, I almost feel off my chair as well. According to him, the Kings where one of them who have contacted the Suns. The Kings feel like Hedo can relieve some pressure of off Tyreke Evans. They don't have a point guard and feel like Hedo can fill the roll with them like he did with the Magic. They have Dalamber(expiring contract) at center, Cousins and Landry(expiring contract) at PF and they would use Hedo as a point small forward. They currently have 43 mil on the books and Hedo would only cost them 7 mil this year since Jason Thompson would be coming our way. I'm not sure how true this is cause I believe the Suns would of made this trade in a heart beat.

Take it for what is worth. You don't have to believe any of this. Just thought I would bring this into light..

Possible 2011 Starting line up:
Steve Nash/Goran Dragic
Jared Dudley/Josh Childress
Hedo??
Channing Frye/Hakim Warrick
Marc Gasol/Robin Lopez
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#2 » by Kerrsed » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:20 am

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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#3 » by Kerrsed » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:25 am

We have no shot at Noah. If Carmelo couldnt get them to do it, Jrich would have Chicago's FO laughing their asses off.

I also dont see how we could get Aldridge.

I could see us going after Gasol, but think that Memphis will match any offer. I think the Grizz are more willing to let Z-BO go then let Gasol leave.

Even with us adding Gasol in the off-season, i dont see how our current team minus Jrich and adding Gasol makes any noise in the play-offs. We wouldnt be contenders, more like pretenders.

I believe your info, just think our FO might have their heads in the clouds.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#4 » by DRK » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:37 am

I don't think the Grizzlies are as high on Marc Gasol as you think. Sooner rather than later, the Grizzlies would want to throw their Number 2 pick in Hasheem Thabeet into the fire.

If money becomes an issue, I can see the Grizz letting Gasol go, and making Thabeet their starting center.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#5 » by ma_falaa_50 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:48 am

dont forget babby is very high on hedo. Maybe this hedo offer from sac town is legit but frog face wont do it.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#6 » by Jimmy76 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:07 am

thanks for the info

I hope something happens
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#7 » by DRK » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:18 am

ray ray wrote:Supposedly, the Suns are not willing to commit financially to a mediocre PF unless its a blockbuster trade like bringing Josh Smith/Lamarcus Aldridge/Jokim Noah to the Suns. The only bargaining chip they have is Jason Richardson and many teams are calling for him. But the deals are mediocre at best. According to my friends source, the Bulls have been calling for JRich but are only offering Dang, young players and draft picks. The Suns asked for Noah but they quickly said no. The Suns don't want to commit to Boozer contract since he's had issues staying healthy in the past and he's not that young. They don't want another Hedo issue in their hands.



J-Rich for

Deng, Taj Gibson, 1st.

Do it.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#8 » by Kerrsed » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:23 am

Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:
ray ray wrote:Supposedly, the Suns are not willing to commit financially to a mediocre PF unless its a blockbuster trade like bringing Josh Smith/Lamarcus Aldridge/Jokim Noah to the Suns. The only bargaining chip they have is Jason Richardson and many teams are calling for him. But the deals are mediocre at best. According to my friends source, the Bulls have been calling for JRich but are only offering Dang, young players and draft picks. The Suns asked for Noah but they quickly said no. The Suns don't want to commit to Boozer contract since he's had issues staying healthy in the past and he's not that young. They don't want another Hedo issue in their hands.



J-Rich for

Deng, Taj Gibson, 1st.

Do it.


Nice! An over paid wing player and a 6'9 PF! :roll:

Also, where would the draft pick be when the Bulls have a team consisting of:

Rose/Richardson/Johnson/Boozer/Noah
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Post#9 » by DBrimstone » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:25 am

Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:
ray ray wrote:Supposedly, the Suns are not willing to commit financially to a mediocre PF unless its a blockbuster trade like bringing Josh Smith/Lamarcus Aldridge/Jokim Noah to the Suns. The only bargaining chip they have is Jason Richardson and many teams are calling for him. But the deals are mediocre at best. According to my friends source, the Bulls have been calling for JRich but are only offering Dang, young players and draft picks. The Suns asked for Noah but they quickly said no. The Suns don't want to commit to Boozer contract since he's had issues staying healthy in the past and he's not that young. They don't want another Hedo issue in their hands.



J-Rich for

Deng, Taj Gibson, 1st.

Do it.

Deng's got a long contract. And I like him alot. And Taj Gibson. And if I were the Nuggets, I'd probably even do that trade for Melo. SO if it were offered to us I'd be down like china town
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Post#10 » by DRK » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:29 am

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Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:
ray ray wrote:Supposedly, the Suns are not willing to commit financially to a mediocre PF unless its a blockbuster trade like bringing Josh Smith/Lamarcus Aldridge/Jokim Noah to the Suns. The only bargaining chip they have is Jason Richardson and many teams are calling for him. But the deals are mediocre at best. According to my friends source, the Bulls have been calling for JRich but are only offering Dang, young players and draft picks. The Suns asked for Noah but they quickly said no. The Suns don't want to commit to Boozer contract since he's had issues staying healthy in the past and he's not that young. They don't want another Hedo issue in their hands.



J-Rich for

Deng, Taj Gibson, 1st.

Do it.


Nice! An over paid wing player and a 6'9 PF! :roll:

Also, where would the draft pick be when the Bulls have a team consisting of:

Rose/Richardson/Johnson/Boozer/Noah



Before I go on any futher, I would like to point out that your beloved Brandon Bass is only 6'8...

Luol Deng is not overpaid IMO. he is a good defender, and be rebounds very well.
Good point about the 1t though, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#11 » by Reverse_Angle » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:50 am

Both Deng and Gibson are inconsistent. We have enough of those.

Deng is a wing player. We have enough of those

Gibson is undersized. WE have enough of those.

Our only chance is convince Hedo to convince Enes Kanter not to enter the draft, so we can sign him as an undrafted international player. :)
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Post#12 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:09 am

I think the FO is right not to commit to anything less than decent PF. I knew the Bulls would be calling for JRich since they are in need of a 2nd off-the-ball scorer and 3PT threat to help D.Rose out. But any deal including ANOTHER wing palyer and Deng at that, no thanks. I like Taj Gibson though, decent rebounder, shot blocker, defender and serviceable offensive game already. I think Boozer would help this team but definitely not worth the financial committment.

Also good to hear that we're after Marc Gasol. I've liked his game since I saw him play in the Olympics. Very good passer, legit big man with defense and rebounding. I think he'd be a good long term piece to add the the team but I'd like it if we could move Hedo first just to clear up our long term money. A Hedo deal doesn't have to be good financially but as long as it can fill a need (rebounding, defense) with a trade then I'd be alright with us taking on a longer deal than Hedo's. Honestly, if we were offered Dally + JT for Hedo, I'd even throw in a 1st if we had a deal in place. If it's true that the Kings have something like that on offer and a deal isn't done yet, it's most likely either the Kings are asking for one of our young guys too (Dragic or Rolo) or we're not giving up on the Hedo "experiment" yet.
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Re: Supposedly Suns plans for next year 

Post#13 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:14 am

Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:Before I go on any futher, I would like to point out that your beloved Brandon Bass is only 6'8...

Luol Deng is not overpaid IMO. he is a good defender, and be rebounds very well.
Good point about the 1t though, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.


Deng is an excellent off-the-ball player and would fit in great with Nash/Dragic. He uses his Duke smart's very well and get to places where he can score easily, much like Hill. Great defender and a pretty good rebounder for his position. Only problem is his deal(which I don't like) and we're already pretty stacked at the 3, unless of course we could unload Hedo.
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Post#14 » by DirtyDez » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:49 am

I'd play Gasol at PF and just rebound the hell outta teams. Then try to find a non expensive SG like Jamal Crawford or Rasual Butler.
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Post#15 » by Kerrsed » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:26 am

DirtyDez wrote:I'd play Gasol at PF and just rebound the hell outta teams. Then try to find a non expensive SG like Jamal Crawford or Rasual Butler.


No Gasol at PF, thats what we need to quit doing, playing people at the wrong positions!

Gasol is a C, and we would need to play him there!

No more Frye at C, or Turk as PF, or Dudley at SG, or Clark at SF, or Childress as SG.

LET PLAYERS PLAY AT THEIR NATURAL POSITION!!!

Im surprised we havent tried to play Lopez at PF. Nash/Richardson/Hill/Lopez/Frye. Im sure the FO has thought about it once or twice.
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Post#16 » by Moochiefried » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:36 am

If Sac is willing to trade JT for Hedo, then we need to get that done. It would sort out our rotation and fix up some of our rebounding problems. I think Hedo is possibly the better player, but this trade would benefit both teams.

As for Jrich, I want to keep him, hes been great this year. If theres a way to keep him around and get a legit PF or C, then that would be ideal. ie. Jason Thompson for Hedo
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Post#17 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:42 am

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DirtyDez wrote:I'd play Gasol at PF and just rebound the hell outta teams. Then try to find a non expensive SG like Jamal Crawford or Rasual Butler.


No Gasol at PF, thats what we need to quit doing, playing people at the wrong positions!

Gasol is a C, and we would need to play him there!

No more Frye at C, or Turk as PF, or Dudley at SG, or Clark at SF, or Childress as SG.

LET PLAYERS PLAY AT THEIR NATURAL POSITION!!!

Im surprised we havent tried to play Lopez at PF. Nash/Richardson/Hill/Lopez/Frye. Im sure the FO has thought about it once or twice.


I agree with getting guys back into their natural positions.
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Post#18 » by swe_suns » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:49 am

ray ray wrote:In their conversation, he mentioned that the Suns are going to let JRich contract expire and will use his money to get Marc Gasol in the off season. Gasol contract expires after this season which is 3.2 mil. They are willing to offer 10-12 mil a year to bring MGasol to. Phx with most of the salary front loaded. They feel very comfortable with a rotation of Childress and Dudley at the shooting guard. That's way they are very reluctant in including Dudley or Childress in any trade. They are actually not opposed of including RLopez if it brings that star power forward (JSmith/LAldridge/Noah)

Believe it or not, their has been four teams that have contacted the Suns and asked about Hedo. I know, I almost feel off my chair as well. According to him, the Kings where one of them who have contacted the Suns. The Kings feel like Hedo can relieve some pressure of off Tyreke Evans. They don't have a point guard and feel like Hedo can fill the roll with them like he did with the Magic. They have Dalamber(expiring contract) at center, Cousins and Landry(expiring contract) at PF and they would use Hedo as a point small forward. They currently have 43 mil on the books and Hedo would only cost them 7 mil this year since Jason Thompson would be coming our way. I'm not sure how true this is cause I believe the Suns would of made this trade in a heart beat.


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Post#19 » by swe_suns » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:51 am

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ray ray wrote:In their conversation, he mentioned that the Suns are going to let JRich contract expire and will use his money to get Marc Gasol in the off season. Gasol contract expires after this season which is 3.2 mil. They are willing to offer 10-12 mil a year to bring MGasol to. Phx with most of the salary front loaded. They feel very comfortable with a rotation of Childress and Dudley at the shooting guard. That's way they are very reluctant in including Dudley or Childress in any trade. They are actually not opposed of including RLopez if it brings that star power forward (JSmith/LAldridge/Noah)

Believe it or not, their has been four teams that have contacted the Suns and asked about Hedo. I know, I almost feel off my chair as well. According to him, the Kings where one of them who have contacted the Suns. The Kings feel like Hedo can relieve some pressure of off Tyreke Evans. They don't have a point guard and feel like Hedo can fill the roll with them like he did with the Magic. They have Dalamber(expiring contract) at center, Cousins and Landry(expiring contract) at PF and they would use Hedo as a point small forward. They currently have 43 mil on the books and Hedo would only cost them 7 mil this year since Jason Thompson would be coming our way. I'm not sure how true this is cause I believe the Suns would of made this trade in a heart beat.


my goodness please make this happen


i'm not trading jrich for anything less than a noah type of a player which is impossible anyway so he stays.

man this would be a really amazing lineup

nash/dragic
jrich/jchill
hill/dudley/clark
jthompson/warrick/barron
lopez/frye/barron
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Post#20 » by BurningHeart » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:14 am

I don't agree with players playing natural positions. Saying that you want players to go back to natural positions means you want to abandon our style that predicates itself on mismatches and versatility.

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