Lakers vs Memphis Grizzlies, November 30th @ 5:00 PST

[Anklebreaker702]

I don't care if were still fine but can we show a bit more of a polished game damn pacers now the grizzlies.

I want Kobe to post / get double / pass out. When he's busy building his house of bricks you could see the team get whack and assert less and less effort every time down the court. Always going to be offense for our team not sweating that, but when defense is set first the offense flows better. Some will say he ain't waiting to see who's hot on a particular night but damn mamba spoon feed your teammates before you get yours

Kobe could be among the league leaders in triple doubles if he wanted to. I wish he could see how much more deadly our team would be if he focused on that a little more.

[semi-sentient]

Exactly. We would be so much better if Kobe focused more on play-making instead of always looking to score. He spends a lot of energy on the offensive end and I think that's part of the reason why he's not playing defense consistently. If he plays like this in the playoffs then the Spurs, assuming they are healthy, will walk all over us.

[Slava]

I think its pretty clear by now that playoffs Kobe is much different from regular Kobe. Heck there was a night and day difference in his play making even in 2006 against the Suns from the regular season. I'm pretty sure if we lose to the Spurs it will be because of something a lot more drastic than Kobe's shot selection.

[semi-sentient]

Yeah, that's true. He's always played a more balanced game in the playoffs. Sometimes I just feel that these RS habits have their effects on the everyone else and that's my primary concern. That, and I just love to complain about everything.

[Anklebreaker702]

Exactly. We would be so much better if Kobe focused more on play-making instead of always looking to score. He spends a lot of energy on the offensive end and I think that's part of the reason why he's not playing defense consistently. If he plays like this in the playoffs then the Spurs, assuming they are healthy, will walk all over us.

He usually gets it together long before the playoffs, it's just the fact that i wish he would keep that mentality all year long & we would stay in sync for longer stretches IMO

[Sedale Threatt]

I think the best way to settle the Lakers current slump is to FIRE SPOELSTRA

That was good.

[Anklebreaker702]

I think its pretty clear by now that playoffs Kobe is much different from regular Kobe. Heck there was a night and day difference in his play making even in 2006 against the Suns from the regular season. I'm pretty sure if we lose to the Spurs it will be because of something a lot more drastic than Kobe's shot selection.

Agree to an extent. The old saying is you play the way you practice. So if he stayed in a triple double type of mentality all year long the team would fuction like that more efficiently. As far as losing to the Spurs yes, a lot more would have to be wrong than shot selection.

[TsunamiZC]

I understand Kali but at the same time I haven't seen the effort these last couple of games this team coasts during the regular season but it might come back to haunt them one day hopefully after our 3 peat

Your right and I am gonna stop comparing this current Lakers team to the past Lakers team.
It's a new ball game today.

This Lakers team has been on so much national television that every other team out there knows their tendencies to a FU#$%ING SCIENCE.

Especially Kobe and Pau.
Seems like players already know were their gonna go before they even take a step.

Gift and a Curse being the number one stunner but true champions always overcome.

lol not sure if ur serious

As if other teams huddle around their TV's to watch nationally televised Laker games. This isnt the dark ages anymore, their coaches give them dvd's to watch.

Having nationally televised games is not a curse.

[Atmanne]

Kobe could be among the league leaders in triple doubles if he wanted to. I wish he could see how much more deadly our team would be if he focused on that a little more.

I disagree. He's a good rebounder, but not a guy that's gonna get 10+ more than a handful of times a year at his position. And the triangle isn't a pick-and-roll heavy system where he's going to consistently rack up assists.

He tends to gun when he isn't being double-teamed, and yeah, it looks really bad when he's off like he was last night. But I don't think that's the reason for the recent slide.

[Anklebreaker702]

Kobe could be among the league leaders in triple doubles if he wanted to. I wish he could see how much more deadly our team would be if he focused on that a little more.

I disagree. He's a good rebounder, but not a guy that's gonna get 10+ more than a handful of times a year at his position. And the triangle isn't a pick-and-roll heavy system where he's going to consistently rack up assists.

He tends to gun when he isn't being double-teamed, and yeah, it looks really bad when he's off like he was last night. But I don't think that's the reason for the recent slide.

This is not a bad synopsis but Kobe is a phenomenal player. We really don't know because he hasn't tried. He doesn't have to be a league leader in rebounds just have as many as any other guards that get triple doubles on the norm and with this current team assist wouldn't be a problem. He has guys that can make shots.

[Edrees]

What do you mean Kobe hasn't tried? Dude is a workaholic. He puts his heart and soul into every practice and every game. If he could average a triple double he'd do it. I think he can get the assists easily without the triangle, but the rebounds are tough to come by.

[Anklebreaker702]

What do you mean Kobe hasn't tried? Dude is a workaholic. He puts his heart and soul into every practice and every game. If he could average a triple double he'd do it. I think he can get the assists easily without the triangle, but the rebounds are tough to come by.

Edress I don't think many would argue here or otherwise that he concentrates on scoring more. That is where his emphasis is. It's pretty easy to see.

[Atmanne]

I skimmed through the 04-05 game logs (http://tinyurl.com/37l988r), and during Rudy Tomjanovich's short tenure Kobe had four triple-doubles and 10 games with 10+ assists. So that supports the notion that the triangle limits Kobe's assist (and perhaps rebound) numbers. That's part of the reason why the obsession with PER is a little silly. If you're constantly in pick-and-rolls, of course your PER is going to be high.

As far as him launching 30 footers and so forth at the end of close games, I agree he needs to chill with that ****. But I don't think the current slide is due to his lack of playmaking.