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WOW.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Welcome-to-UFC-s-post-merger-world-Harris-cut-w?urn=mma-289037#remaining-content
The guy was cited to be "boring" in his fight vs. falcao! After maybe the most exciting slam since Rampage on Arona, Harris has skills and looked rusty in his last fight
This guy will have career else where in the MMA world
I think this is a beginning of UFC cutting guys left, right, and center
Thoughts?
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Welcome-to-UFC-s-post-merger-world-Harris-cut-w?urn=mma-289037#remaining-content
The guy was cited to be "boring" in his fight vs. falcao! After maybe the most exciting slam since Rampage on Arona, Harris has skills and looked rusty in his last fight
This guy will have career else where in the MMA world
I think this is a beginning of UFC cutting guys left, right, and center
Thoughts?
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Has been discussed in the UFC 123 thread, and is somewhat surprising, but not all that shocking.
He was boring in the fight against Falcao (some of the blame falls on Falcao as well, but at least he won the fight), and he isn't exactly the most exciting fighter bell to bell anyway. He's had some exciting finishes, but some of his fights were kind of lacklustre up to those finishes.
He was boring in the fight against Falcao (some of the blame falls on Falcao as well, but at least he won the fight), and he isn't exactly the most exciting fighter bell to bell anyway. He's had some exciting finishes, but some of his fights were kind of lacklustre up to those finishes.
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This is exactly why the UFC is not the NFL that they pretend to be.
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malcrk wrote:This is exactly why the UFC is not the NFL that they pretend to be.
A) Huh?
B) When did the UFC pretend to be the NFL?
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Like I said pre-WEC merge - they are cutting payroll to make way for more high paid fighters, the WEC merged happened - and they still need to continue this trend.
Guys like Aldo etc.. are adding even more fighters that soon will be earning the flat 300k or 200k's per event, and they now have more contenders, and I doubt we'll see many more events, if any, per year, so UFC just plain needs to make space.
Part of this will come with "shocker" cuts or people they just feel won't cut the mustard in the division, and why pay them the cash.
That said, I don't like this cut, but I expect a few more like this over the next few events, just guys that will be demanding cash that the UFC feel they dont deserve.
Guys like Aldo etc.. are adding even more fighters that soon will be earning the flat 300k or 200k's per event, and they now have more contenders, and I doubt we'll see many more events, if any, per year, so UFC just plain needs to make space.
Part of this will come with "shocker" cuts or people they just feel won't cut the mustard in the division, and why pay them the cash.
That said, I don't like this cut, but I expect a few more like this over the next few events, just guys that will be demanding cash that the UFC feel they dont deserve.
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This got nothing to do with $$ I'll bet Harris didnt make anymore than 15k per fight. Zuffa is bringing on the WEC cats who put on shows that put 80% of the UFC fights to shame. They are done with boring fighters, effective or not. Zuffa is going for every other combat org's jugullar, boxing or mma. I wouldnt doubt you see UFC on network TV in 2011.

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No surprise to me to be honest. Dana HATES guys that don't fight! and this fight was pretty bad. I mean it's the 3rd round you do NOTHING???? Sure the other guy isn't engaging but he's got 2 rounds in the bag and he aint exactly as elusive as Machida!
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El Hardee wrote:This got nothing to do with $$ I'll bet Harris didnt make anymore than 15k per fight. Zuffa is bringing on the WEC cats who put on shows that put 80% of the UFC fights to shame. They are done with boring fighters, effective or not. Zuffa is going for every other combat org's jugullar, boxing or mma. I wouldnt doubt you see UFC on network TV in 2011.
I wanna say Dana eluded to this recently (a new TV deal). Was talking about how they are in like a billion homes and would soon double the number or something. Could be a TV deal, could be Dana being Dana.

To your other point, Harris did have a few KO of the night. Dana loves that stuff, you think he was cut for being boring?
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malcrk wrote:This is exactly why the UFC is not the NFL that they pretend to be.
Absolutely nothing about this statement makes any sense.
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I think what he meant was that Dana wants UFC to be considered a major sports league like the NFL. You can't expect MMA to be considered a real sport if you cut fighters just because you don't like the way they are fighting. In Harris's case it was just completely unfair.
He fights in a certain style because its effective, if you want to change the way he fights, you have to change the rules. This is not under the UFC's control, so I guess they just decided to punish the fighters instead. Which is bull **** imo.
He fights in a certain style because its effective, if you want to change the way he fights, you have to change the rules. This is not under the UFC's control, so I guess they just decided to punish the fighters instead. Which is bull **** imo.
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any further explanation from fighter or UFC?
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TheBathinApe wrote:I think what he meant was that Dana wants UFC to be considered a major sports league like the NFL. You can't expect MMA to be considered a real sport if you cut fighters just because you don't like the way they are fighting. In Harris's case it was just completely unfair.
He fights in a certain style because its effective, if you want to change the way he fights, you have to change the rules. This is not under the UFC's control, so I guess they just decided to punish the fighters instead. Which is bull **** imo.
He was cut because he lost and looked terrible against a guy making his UFC debut. He showed no heart and quit on the fight.
Being an exciting fighter has always been a pre-requisite for being in major fights on major cards. That started long before MMA even existed. The goal is to get people to order the fights, and that comes from putting exciting fighters out there that people want to see.
I was surprised Harris was cut, but people are acting like someone great got cut here. Harris not even a top 25 fighter at his weight class, with no fanbase to speak of and he fights a boring style. If you are going to be boring in the UFC, you better win fights.
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Cammo101 wrote:TheBathinApe wrote:I think what he meant was that Dana wants UFC to be considered a major sports league like the NFL. You can't expect MMA to be considered a real sport if you cut fighters just because you don't like the way they are fighting. In Harris's case it was just completely unfair.
He fights in a certain style because its effective, if you want to change the way he fights, you have to change the rules. This is not under the UFC's control, so I guess they just decided to punish the fighters instead. Which is bull **** imo.
He was cut because he lost and looked terrible against a guy making his UFC debut. He showed no heart and quit on the fight.
Being an exciting fighter has always been a pre-requisite for being in major fights on major cards. That started long before MMA even existed. The goal is to get people to order the fights, and that comes from putting exciting fighters out there that people want to see.
I was surprised Harris was cut, but people are acting like someone great got cut here. Harris not even a top 25 fighter at his weight class, with no fanbase to speak of and he fights a boring style. If you are going to be boring in the UFC, you better win fights.
Hes been unfairly put against four fighters that made their debut. He has 2 KOTN and one bad performance, he lost once. One bad showing doesn't warrant a cut, guys like Kongo should get long before Harris. Harris's fighting style definitely does have something to do with him getting cut, Dana is known not to like wrestlers.
Being an exciting fighter isn't a pre-requisite, it just helps sell PPV. Again if Harris has lost three fights or **** even two, you can justify cutting him. One bad showing and its not like he was the only one responsible for that fight, Falcao should get some of the blame as well, albeit to a lesser extent.
Again he lost only once and this is more than just cutting an "un-popular" fighter. Its this guys job, and he pretty much got fired. I know he'll go fight in strike force or something and eventually return to the UFC but still you do not cut a fighter after losing one fight. Thats just unprofessional.
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TheBathinApe wrote:Cammo101 wrote:TheBathinApe wrote:I think what he meant was that Dana wants UFC to be considered a major sports league like the NFL. You can't expect MMA to be considered a real sport if you cut fighters just because you don't like the way they are fighting. In Harris's case it was just completely unfair.
He fights in a certain style because its effective, if you want to change the way he fights, you have to change the rules. This is not under the UFC's control, so I guess they just decided to punish the fighters instead. Which is bull **** imo.
He was cut because he lost and looked terrible against a guy making his UFC debut. He showed no heart and quit on the fight.
Being an exciting fighter has always been a pre-requisite for being in major fights on major cards. That started long before MMA even existed. The goal is to get people to order the fights, and that comes from putting exciting fighters out there that people want to see.
I was surprised Harris was cut, but people are acting like someone great got cut here. Harris not even a top 25 fighter at his weight class, with no fanbase to speak of and he fights a boring style. If you are going to be boring in the UFC, you better win fights.
Hes been unfairly put against four fighters that made their debut. He has 2 KOTN and one bad performance, he lost once. One bad showing doesn't warrant a cut, guys like Kongo should get long before Harris. Harris's fighting style definitely does have something to do with him getting cut, Dana is known not to like wrestlers.
Being an exciting fighter isn't a pre-requisite, it just helps sell PPV. Again if Harris has lost three fights or **** even two, you can justify cutting him. One bad showing and its not like he was the only one responsible for that fight, Falcao should get some of the blame as well, albeit to a lesser extent.
Again he lost only once and this is more than just cutting an "un-popular" fighter. Its this guys job, and he pretty much got fired. I know he'll go fight in strike force or something and eventually return to the UFC but still you do not cut a fighter after losing one fight. Thats just unprofessional.
Dana likes wrestlers fine, he just does not like boring fighters and a lot of pure wrestlers are boring. Randy Couture, Sean Sherk, Chael Sonnan, Gray Maynard, Frankie Edgar, Cain Velasquez, Brock Lesnar...are just a few of the wrestlers Dana "likes".
Falcao would have been cut if he were the one to lose. Harris' 3-1 record is somewhat a mirage because of the level of fighter he has fought. Boring fighter, no fanbase, no realistic chance at a title run. Why exactly should he be kept around over a guy like Matt Brown who brings it every night?
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Gray Maynard should have got a title shot before, Fitch needs to go through a lot more than the average fighter to get a title shot. Randy and Lesnar were/are cash cows, thats why he likes them. I wouldn't consider Edgar to be entertaining either but he wins.
Harris doesn't control who the ufc puts against him, he just agrees to fight. Hes had to KOTN, is an up and coming fighter, hes not going to have a fan base at this stage of his career. One loss and he gets cut, its not even justifiable.
Harris doesn't control who the ufc puts against him, he just agrees to fight. Hes had to KOTN, is an up and coming fighter, hes not going to have a fan base at this stage of his career. One loss and he gets cut, its not even justifiable.
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If you do not consider Edgar entertaining, then Gerald Harris must bore you to tears.
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I don't actually find him boring, but its easy to see why a casual fan would not find him entertaining.
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Harris did nothing wrong. Kickboxing, if someone backs off every time you throw a lead punch, there's nothing you can do. There's no strike you can throw that will cover the distance.
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cowboyronnie wrote:Harris did nothing wrong. Kickboxing, if someone backs off every time you throw a lead punch, there's nothing you can do. There's no strike you can throw that will cover the distance.
I understand list-making is a different arena, one where a man truly proves himself.
LOL. Your man love for Gerald Harris is almost as strong as your hate for me.
Harris did something wrong, he looked like garbage against a no name fighter. Last I checked, Harris lost an MMA fight and not a kickboxing match. I guess we need to get Falcao in a fight with Anderson Silva ASAP, because he has found the magical kickboxing move that makes your opponent fight like an uninterested stiff.
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I can and do have some sympathy for Harris in that he's only lost 1 fight. What I think the issue is here, is that Falcao sucked the desire out of Harris to fight. Harris barely survived that first round, and from where I was sitting, he was ready and willing to continue to sit on his stool and throw the towel in. I don't think he wanted to answear the bell and I think Dana saw just as much. Harris's refusal to engage could almost be interpreted as overmatched and scared, and any fighter who has that, is almost a guranteed cut in this day and age.
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