Utah Jazz(17-7) at Dallas Mavericks(18-4) [Dec-11]

[outerspacefella]

It's good to fight back the way they did it. It builds confidence, team grit, resilience. It test guys in fire time. That's good and will be an intangible coming playoff time. No big regrets on this loss.

- Decision making down the stretch killed the come back; but it was a hell of an effort

- Williams can be MVP when he wants to

- The zone should have been throwed out there a dozen points earlier

- Hayward should have been substitued a dozen points earlier too; this is killing his confidence... it's 4 on 5.... time to think D-League?

- Millsap and Kirilenko, when you see 3 strong and athletic guys clogging the zone, just don't drinve into them

- Bell's natural substitute is Ronnie Price

[HolyToledo]

I am extremely happy with the teams character. They would not have comeback last years or recent years past. This is a good group of guys that play hard for each other and Dwill has taken his game to the next level. I really think we make alot of noise all year and in the playoffs. The team has some issues which I hope KOC addresses by the trading deadline.

We need a consistent SG that can shoot and create his own shot. Who that is im not sure. Our assets that I think we can afford to trade are Memo (starting center and back up center are well manned), Raja (little value to other teams), Hayward, and Fess. Lets see if KOC can continue to earn his money this year.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

We would have won had the Mavs not been so hot from 3. Simple as that.

We need to play Evans more.

Deron needs some help. Jefferson and Millsap need to step it up and...dare I say it...we need Memo back. CJ needs to be better.

[yonexpro1]

Well the jazz/boozer era also had a few comebacks, the ones i can remember of the top of my head was last yr in portland (i think it was down 25 3rd qtr) and 2 yrs ago against sacramento they also had a few game strecthes of coming back against other teams.

I think its because this year the jazz are doing it against higher prestige teams (heat magic mavs lakers). But it is great seeing them not give up, although against miami at home they did in the last qrtr.

One thing I would love the jazz to try (not saying it works) would be posting up raja, a lot of teams put there SG on deron and raja usually has the pg on him. I dont know how well he is with his back to the basket but I would just be interested to see what he could do ( I say this because I remember us doing the same with wes and we do it with cj)

[yonexpro1]

We would have won had the Mavs not been so hot from 3. Simple as that.

We need to play Evans more.

Deron needs some help. Jefferson and Millsap need to step it up and...dare I say it...we need Memo back. CJ needs to be better.

agree with most things you said but jeremy has been good when in the game however his lack of strenght has lost him positioning in grabbing boards etc.

I for one am happy Millsap isnt on the all-star ballot simply because he isnt that lvl a player. He needsto get his ass off xbox and practice his ft's,midrange is going away, and also rebounding.

[HammerDunk]

We would have won had the Mavs not been so hot from 3. Simple as that.

We need to play Evans more.

Deron needs some help. Jefferson and Millsap need to step it up and...dare I say it...we need Memo back. CJ needs to be better.

agree with most things you said but jeremy has been good when in the game however his lack of strenght has lost him positioning in grabbing boards etc.

I for one am happy Millsap isnt on the all-star ballot simply because he isnt that lvl a player. He needsto get his ass off xbox and practice his ft's,midrange is going away, and also rebounding.

You are a freaking tool.

[yonexpro1]

We would have won had the Mavs not been so hot from 3. Simple as that.

We need to play Evans more.

Deron needs some help. Jefferson and Millsap need to step it up and...dare I say it...we need Memo back. CJ needs to be better.

agree with most things you said but jeremy has been good when in the game however his lack of strenght has lost him positioning in grabbing boards etc.

I for one am happy Millsap isnt on the all-star ballot simply because he isnt that lvl a player. He needsto get his ass off xbox and practice his ft's,midrange is going away, and also rebounding.

You are a freaking tool.

and why is that? because I state my opinion?

[HammerDunk]

If you were a real jazz fan, you would know that Millsap is one of the hardest workers on the team. He has had to work his ASS off to get everything he has gotten in this league.

[Soul Patch]

I missed this one too, it looks like Millsap forgot Dirk is one of the best shooters in the league again. I wonder if Sloan will switch AK and Millsap on defense like he's started to do with Odom and Artest.

[HammerDunk]

I missed this one too, it looks like Millsap forgot Dirk is one of the best shooters in the league again. I wonder if Sloan will switch AK and Millsap on defense like he's started to do with Odom and Artest.

Elson did a lot better on him, his height and length helped a lot, he didn't start scoring in the 2nd half until he decided to force shots because he knew Elson would foul him. I don't know why Sloan is starting Sap on Dirk, he is way too short to cover him.

[yonexpro1]

If you were a real jazz fan, you would know that Millsap is one of the hardest workers on the team. He has had to work his ASS off to get everything he has gotten in this league.

Oh believe me I am a biggggg jazz fan, probably bigger than most on the board. yes he has had to work his ass off to be relevant in the league, but why is it his rebounding has gone down? and from the begging of the season to now his jumpshot has been kinda fading as well as freethrow shooting. Point is he wasnt and still shouldnt be considered on the all star ballot lvl until he is consistent, I see millsap as a udonis haslem type of player when it comes to winning a chip. Not saying this team isnt equipped to make a run, but millsap will need to bust his ass even more to get to a lvl that he can be considered allstar material.

I dont see millsap guarding caron, more than likely the jazz would need to go with a small lineup having ak at the 4 and putting raja on caron. But its a shame when you have to criticize someone because they are to interested in playing help defense haha...

[yonexpro1]

I missed this one too, it looks like Millsap forgot Dirk is
one of the best shooters in the league again. I wonder if Sloan will switch AK and Millsap on defense like he's started to do with Odom and Artest.

Elson did a lot better on him, his height and length helped a lot, he didn't start scoring in the 2nd half until he decided to force shots because he knew Elson would foul him. I don't know why Sloan is starting Sap on Dirk, he is way too short to cover him.

I agree elson did a fine job on dirk, apart from being a little to handsy which resulted in ft's.
But I dont think its so much of millsaps lack of size, I think its his lack of speed compared to dirk.
A majority of teams that have success vs the mavs put smaller guy on dirk but they are also quicker. which results in a. being able to keep up with him of the dribble. and b. being able to beat him to his spots.

from my perspective dirk is good enough shooter that he can shoot over anybody given any size advantage. (fading away etc.)

[GP]

The Millsap on Dirk is a horrible idea. Its not that millsap is playing bad defense, its just that dirk has so much height on Sap, there really isn't anything he can do. Dirk can just face up and shoot over him. Too bad no one else on the jazz really showed up tonight, could have been a nice win.

[HammerDunk]

Haslem could never average 18/8 in this league or have a 46 point game against a team like Miami.

[yonexpro1]

Haslem could never average 18/8 in this league or have a 46 point game against a team like Miami.

i'll give you that but i dont mean numberswise I mean role. if he can avg around 16 and 10 thats a major success. I need al to get 22 and 10 and dwill at least 20 and 10, if we wanna be contenders raja needs about 10 a game ak (pending his status) around 12. I for one want to see ronnie get more minutes, I love the energy and eventhough he makes bad choices attimes especially at pg at the 2 he seems to play better (love the effort)