Azubuike

[NewWolvesOrder]

Ridnour for Buike, I'd even throw in Jazz pick because I don't see much value in it.

Everybody talks about Randolph, Walker etc. but nobody mentions this guy, he's a forgotten man now and has been out long with injury but he was a great talent for GSW. he can shoot, drive and finish, and play defense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-lH1gaKIGE. I know it's highlights but it shows his skills. We let him get back to his former self the rest of the season and if his injuries are past him then we offer him a contract. I'll take Azabuike over Brewer and Ellington 10 out of 10 times.
If he can't regain his preinjury form then atleast he expires and he have more capspace.

[eyeteeth]

Azubuike is a guy we could take on as filler. If he got back to his best form he would be worth a player, but right now there's no guarantee that he'd be worth anything at all, and the guys we would give up, however little they are worth relative to stars, are at least proven backups.

That said, if we took him on as trade filler he might get back his form, and if nothing else, he can shoot the ball.

[Worm Guts]

I wouldn't be looking for a wing that's better Brewer and Ellington. I would be looking for a wing that's better than Webster and Johnson. A healthy Azubuike would have value, but it's not the type of player I'd be looking to add.

[champalift]

I am not a Luke fan. Assuming all is well with Jonny, I would do this in a heartbeat. From what I read, Buike is an expiring. For the fact alone that I don't want to see Luke here for any longer, let alone 3 plus years, I would do this.
Signing Luke to his contract length wise was questioned to begin with. So far this season it doesn't seem that Luke really fits in the system anyways. As people have said before, his heat check threes with plenty of time on the clock have to stop.
I am in. Randolph seems like a bit too much a project too me. I would rather keep a late first, grab a proven college player rather than hope Randolph pans out. We simply don't have the minutes for Randolph. Also, I really like what Tolliver brings to the team intensity and if Randolph came in, I assume Tolliver is out.
Also, I have always liked what I have seen from Azubuike. Who knows post injury, but I am down to give it a go.

[Worm Guts]

I've said it before, but I don't think it's realistic to expect a Ridnour salary dump before the deadline.

[revprodeji]

We need to stop adding role players. Build the core.

[NewWolvesOrder]

I've said it before, but I don't think it's realistic to expect a Ridnour salary dump before the deadline.

If there's a taker for Ridnour then he better go because not many teams want a backup pg at 16 mil for 4 years.
As far as Azubuike vs Martell and Wes? Buike is a SG and has better handle than Martell and everbody knows abot Wes.

[NewWolvesOrder]

We need to stop adding role players. Build the core.

So Ridnour is the core now?
Azubuike has talent, maybe more than the wings we have now and he's a true sg.

[champalift]

We need to stop adding role players. Build the core.

So hold onto what we have until when? Wait for who?
I am just curious which "core" guys you have in mind? Of course I would love to build a stronger core, but I am not sure which direction we go. In my opinion, our future core at point is Jonny and Rubio, the wings I see as future core guys are Beasley, Wes and Webster, and down low Darko and Love (to some degree Pek if he pans out). From what I see, we have core needs at wing and down low. Ideas?

[shrink]

If there's a taker for Ridnour then he better go because not many teams want a backup pg at 16 mil for 4 years.

I agree. NYK has money.

As for Azubuike, his value is reduced because he's out for 2-4 more months, but more importantly, he's on an expiring contract. Perhaps owning his Bird Rights would be beneficial later, but he's wasted salary on no production right now.

[Worm Guts]

I've said it before, but I don't think it's realistic to expect a Ridnour salary dump before the deadline.

If there's a taker for Ridnour then he better because not many teams want a backup pg at 16 mil for 4 years.
As far as Azabuike vs Martell and Wes? Buike is a SG and has better handle than Martell and everbody knows abot Wes.

Kahn signed Ridnour this summer, he apparently wants him as our backup. Ridnour's been in the league 8 years, Kahn had to know what he was getting.

We're already committed to Wes and Webster, if Azubuike's an upgrade it's not by much (and I think we'd all be disappointed with our guys)

[Swish4]

We should be looking for guys with great potential at this point in our development. Guys who at least have a chance to be core guys. Azubuike and Randolph fit that description IMO. At this point I'll take a guy who has a 25% chance of being a quality starter over a guy with 0% but is a deep bench role player.

[Worm Guts]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

[NewWolvesOrder]

If there's a taker for Ridnour then he better go because not many teams want a backup pg at 16 mil for 4 years.

I agree. NYK has money.

As for Azubuike, his value is reduced because he's out for 2-4 more months, but more importantly, he's on an expiring contract. Perhaps owning his Bird Rights would be beneficial later, but he's wasted salary on no production right now.

I'm pretty sure insuarance must be paying his salary, as far as production goes, with Flynn back we have Telfair sitting on the bench not able to contribute and we still paying him.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

Ridnour is a scrub in comparison to Azubuike.

If Azubuike didn't get that bad injury last season we would have opted out this past summer and signed pretty big deal with some team, possibly even the wolves. He's a real good player, he's numbers were better than Martell's. I have no problem adding a guy like that. I can't believe people prefering Ridnour and his long contract over him.

[Worm Guts]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

Ridnour is a scrub in comparison to Azubuike.

If Azubuike didn't get that bad injury last season we would have opted out this past summer and signed pretty big deal with some team, possibly even the wolves. He's a real good player, he's numbers were better than Martell's. I have no problem adding a guy like that. I can't believe people prefering Ridnour and his long contract over him.

He's a role player, he's plays defense and shoots 3's. That's useful, but I don't see anything that makes more than a role player or someone that would displace Webster or Johnson. Ridnour is also a role player, but he's a role already on our team and who was chosen to be on our team 6 months ago by our GM.
I'm not even trying to evaluate Ridnour as a player, I wouldn't have signed him, but he's here. Let's be realistic.

[revprodeji]

we have like 5 guys the same as kenny.

[champalift]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

Ridnour is a scrub in comparison to Azubuike.

If Azubuike didn't get that bad injury last season we would have opted out this past summer and signed pretty big deal with some team, possibly even the wolves. He's a real good player, he's numbers were better than Martell's. I have no problem adding a guy like that. I can't believe people prefering Ridnour and his long contract over him.

He's a role player, he's plays defense and shoots 3's. That's useful, but I don't see anything that makes more than a role player or someone that would displace Webster or Johnson. Ridnour is also a role player, but he's a role already on our team and who was chosen to be on our team 6 months ago by our GM.
I'm not even trying to evaluate Ridnour as a player, I wouldn't have signed him, but he's here. Let's be realistic.

So was Ramon Sessions...

[NewWolvesOrder]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

Ridnour is a scrub in comparison to Azubuike.

If Azubuike didn't get that bad injury last season we would have opted out this past summer and signed pretty big deal with some team, possibly even the wolves. He's a real good player, he's numbers were better than Martell's. I have no problem adding a guy like that. I can't believe people prefering Ridnour and his long contract over him.

He's a role player, he's plays defense and shoots 3's. That's useful, but I don't see anything that makes more than a role player or someone that would displace Webster or Johnson. Ridnour is also a role player, but he's a role already on our team and who was chosen to be on our team 6 months ago by our GM.
I'm not even trying to evaluate Ridnour as a player, I wouldn't have signed him, but he's here. Let's be realistic.

1)Azubuike can put the ball on the deck and drive, something Wes Johnson has yet to learn, Martell Webster is not a premium ballhandler either.
2) Is out GM immune to mistakes? about 80% of this website consider him a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for christ's sake. I'm not saying they are right, but it doesn't mean Kahn can't do no wrong.

[jballer_13]

Azuibuke does not fit that description. He's a role player.

Ridnour is a scrub in comparison to Azubuike.

If Azubuike didn't get that bad injury last season we would have opted out this past summer and signed pretty big deal with some team, possibly even the wolves. He's a real good player, he's numbers were better than Martell's. I have no problem adding a guy like that. I can't believe people prefering Ridnour and his long contract over him.

So his numbers in Nellie's run and gun were better than Webster's numbers on a slowed down playoff team... why should we expect him to outperform Martell now, especially with his recent injuries?

I have no problem adding him as a throw in but that's it.