Trade Proposal

[carey]

Now everytime I post I get a sarcastic reply. Its so childish.

It's because every time you post it's RoLo hate. We get it, you don't like Robin Lopez, now how about you move the F on?

Like I said your a childish. What are you 12? Isnt there an age limit to post? lmao.

Wow, extremely witty there turbo.

[jleckie602]

Carey, If you dont like what I say then why bother wasting your time reading it lol. and then posting regarding it. you sit on this forum trying to argue with people? sad story

[Moochiefried]

I would do this. I don't know if it's too early to say RoLo is injury prone, but he sure has been out a lot. Also his potential is honestly pretty low in my opinion. He looks slow out there a lot of the time, and coming back from the injury it looks like he has lost a couple inches of vert. As well he isn't even a good rebounder for his size. He is almost the opposite of what we need in a center right now. Ideally our center would be a consistent 10+ rebounder and someone with good athleticism who Nash could make shine (and maybe throw in some solid defense just for kicks). I think Jordan could do these things for us.

[carey]

you sit on this forum trying to argue with people? sad story

No, just you.

And with four minutes left RoLo has 12 points and 8 boards tonight. How horrible!?!

[Miklo]

carey, jleckie, can we avoid this?

It's always a sad day if we have to give out warnings on the Suns board so make this easy for us please

[SideSwipe]

Despite looking somewhat oafish last night RoLo actually put up decent numbers for the time he was on the floor. 12 and 8 in 23 minutes is pretty respectable. Expanding to a Per 36 that shows as 18 and 12. We need him to still learn to bring the thunder around the basket, but his rebounding was pretty good, and his slashing was decent.

We need to play him against a football player in practice to get him angry again. When Robin is angry he can beast a little bit. We just need him to find that chip on his shoulder. Someone in the FO should order up like 10 glass doors for him or something to make the point that we need him to bring that passion back again.

[SideSwipe]

Also, I would love a Maggette for Hedo swap....Babby of course would not consider it, but I would love to get Magz here, I think he could do well here since he is a great slasher, and gets to the FT line really well.

[jleckie602]

I dont know its something about Lopez I dont like. I agree when Angry he amps his game up and I give him props for having a good comeback game. But can he be consistent is the question. Do you ever notice the guy is always slouching. Like he can never stand straight up. Any one ever notice that?

[Fo-Real]

I would do mags for hedo!

[Miklo]

Lopez is, when healthy, our starting center. Many of us regard him as the center of our future.

Miklo, I think I just found my Sig. Lol that is funny.

Knock yourself out, but can you explain why that's a ridiculous statement I made? I didn't catch myself mocking you when your first lot of posts were basically just Lopez trolling with clear exaggerations...

I digress though. Back to my statement:

Lopez is, when healthy, our starting center.

I doubt you are taking issue with this part, since it's literally true. Lopez IS our starting center. As he should be. Frye isn't a long term solution at center - he's put in excellent effort on the glass and on defense, but he can't be "the banger" out there. So Hedo/Frye or Warrick/Frye is not feasible as we build toward contender status. Hedo, Warrick and Frye all come off the bench nicely anyway.

Many of us regard him as the center of our future.

I assume this is the part you're laughing at. Believe me, I know you disagree with it. But to act like it's a ludicrous statement? I said "many people" feel that way, which is true. I didn't say "most" intentionally, because there are at least as many who don't feel that way. But yes, I said it. I would be happy giving him a chance to become our center of the future.

Keep in mind, typically the center position is filled not by one of your more talented guys but by someone with size, strength and as much rebounding/defense as possible. Take your Dwight Howards and Yao Mings out of the picture and Lopez looks very much like he could become a serviceable starting center in this league.

And if you're so quick to laugh at people who like Lopez, aren't all the things you're saying kind of a joke too since, after ramping up his performance he hasn't played a long enough contiguous time to prove that in his THIRD SEASON he's a bust?

[JohnVancouver]

Mik - I think he was laughing because you wrote "the center of our future" rather than our center of the future" - just reads a little weird but we all know what you mean. If that's not it, then he's laughing at the idea of Rolo being a guy we pin hopes on for the next 10 years, w, and hich is how you read his reply.

I think he might be our guy for the forseeable future - we knew he was a defensive big and not a big scorer, and he's actually improved that part of his game substantially to where he finishes well and has shown some post moves, and a decent little jumper. I wish he rebounded like a 7 footer - though 12/8 in 23 min in hos first game back ain't terrible at all

I did see him boxing out and muscling their big guys last night - I wonder if there should be a stat for assisted rebound. I'm not a stat lover to any great extent - but bigs who consistently box out so that others get the boards are kind of shafted recognition-wise, no?

[JMac1]

Mik - I think he was laughing because you wrote "the center of our future" rather than our center of the future" - just reads a little weird but we all know what you mean. If that's not it, then he's laughing at the idea of Rolo being a guy we pin hopes on for the next 10 years, w, and hich is how you read his reply.

I think he might be our guy for the forseeable future - we knew he was a defensive big and not a big scorer, and he's actually improved that part of his game substantially to where he finishes well and has shown some post moves, and a decent little jumper. I wish he rebounded like a 7 footer - though 12/8 in 23 min in hos first game back ain't terrible at all

I did see him boxing out and muscling their big guys last night - I wonder if there should be a stat for assisted rebound. I'm not a stat lover to any great extent - but bigs who consistently box out so that others get the boards are kind of shafted recognition-wise, no?

I saw a lot of that last night. I think that is the difference between Lopez and Thabeet. Thabeet would have to be like Mutombo and use his length for Rebs, Lopez can muscle somewhat; that is exactly what KLove does.

[JohnVancouver]

ANY ONE FOR LOPEZ! Go retro with it. Ill take ALTON FORD for ROBIN LOPEZ.

Alton Lister .... hell, Alton Brown

[JohnVancouver]

Just because I havent posted on this board before doesnt mean I dont have my own opinion. Kerrsed As a general manager you are, you should be excited to have new voices. I find it interesting how you need to be a long time poster to consider what people say. Im sorry I dont stay up day and night to get points for post like many other members, and then just point them out because they are new. Very welcoming thank you for showing your maturity.

I am excited to have new voices around. The problem that i have is for some ungodly reason when i read your posts, i read them in Mike Tysons voice in my head.

That actually hurt my brain ......

[Miklo]

Mik - I think he was laughing because you wrote "the center of our future" rather than our center of the future" - just reads a little weird but we all know what you mean. If that's not it, then he's laughing at the idea of Rolo being a guy we pin hopes on for the next 10 years, w, and hich is how you read his reply.

I think he might be our guy for the forseeable future - we knew he was a defensive big and not a big scorer, and he's actually improved that part of his game substantially to where he finishes well and has shown some post moves, and a decent little jumper. I wish he rebounded like a 7 footer - though 12/8 in 23 min in hos first game back ain't terrible at all

I did see him boxing out and muscling their big guys last night - I wonder if there should be a stat for assisted rebound. I'm not a stat lover to any great extent - but bigs who consistently box out so that others get the boards are kind of shafted recognition-wise, no?

Yeah that effort gets overlooked on the stat sheet but I guess it's what ultimately gets him rebounds, gotta go for 10 balls before you can get 1. Or maybe that's just what my coach told me when I was the 6'2 center for my team.

But seriously yeah, I love that hustle and that's sorta what I was saying about the center role - I don't need a guy who's gonna be going for 20 and 15 every night. I'd MUCH rather upgrade our PF rotation than replace Lopez at C. What I like to see from my center is just that, Lopez is long and has a plenty big frame, and he's not afraid to body it up.

One thing with him putting a body on or backing down though - when he gets overpowered or frustrated he'll kinda "lash out" at his man - shove him or hook him or something. Picks up some of his fouls that way. Luckily that should come with getting a little older and adjusted to the league, just realizing that sometimes you lose plays and you have to put the energy into the next play.

[jleckie602]

ANY ONE FOR LOPEZ! Go retro with it. Ill take ALTON FORD for ROBIN LOPEZ.

Alton Lister .... hell, Alton Brown

Lol it was a Joke but if your a long time suns fan we had this player alton ford. I believe it was in the 2000 season. maybe early i cant remember.

[Cutter]

Mik - I think he was laughing because you wrote "the center of our future" rather than our center of the future" - just reads a little weird but we all know what you mean. If that's not it, then he's laughing at the idea of Rolo being a guy we pin hopes on for the next 10 years, w, and hich is how you read his reply.

I think he might be our guy for the forseeable future - we knew he was a defensive big and not a big scorer, and he's actually improved that part of his game substantially to where he finishes well and has shown some post moves, and a decent little jumper. I wish he rebounded like a 7 footer - though 12/8 in 23 min in hos first game back ain't terrible at all

I did see him boxing out and muscling their big guys last night - I wonder if there should be a stat for assisted rebound. I'm not a stat lover to any great extent - but bigs who consistently box out so that others get the boards are kind of shafted recognition-wise, no?

I saw a lot of that last night. I think that is the difference between Lopez and Thabeet. Thabeet would have to be like Mutombo and use his length for Rebs, Lopez can muscle somewhat; that is exactly what KLove does.

I agree with the KLove analogy. I would relly like to see Robin learn how to position himself around the basket so he can become a more dominate rebounder. Somehow KLove, who is not nearly as big as Robin, has an instinct on where to be defensively to get rebounds. Wish Robin could learn that.

[ATTL]

ANY ONE FOR LOPEZ! Go retro with it. Ill take ALTON FORD for ROBIN LOPEZ.

Alton Lister .... hell, Alton Brown

Lol it was a Joke but if your a long time suns fan we had this player alton ford. I believe it was in the 2000 season. maybe early i cant remember.

paul mcphereson>jackson vroman>ruben Garcez>alton ford