O.T. .::THE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY THREAD::.

[Knicksfan20]

^Yeah both (and the entire Ancient Aliens Series) were good. I just liked the idea of the advanced Tech (not a new Theory btw) influencing some of our major breakthroughs in the 50's and 60's.

--Mags

Ya man. It's crazy how big of a technology jump we took around the time period they were talking about. And if its true that there really was an alien crash landing there, it would explain a lot.

[magnumt]

^Way before Ancient Aliens tackled the idea again, it's been said that all of the Major Techs we enjoy now (like Microwaves, Velcro, GPS, and even Microships) are the result of "outside" influence.

[Knicksfan20]

^Way before Ancient Aliens tackled the idea again, it's been said that all of the Major Techs we enjoy now (like Microwaves, Velcro, GPS, and even Microships) are the result of "outside" influence.

Sometimes i wish i dont hear these kinda things. Everything makes more sense when you dont know wtf is going on.

[magnumt]

^ I hear ya'.

You know what facinates me the most? The history of it all. The idea that there may have been really advanced Civilizations around way before the dawn of our Race, and then nature took its course and either forced them to leave or wiped them out.

--Mags

[NBA Fan 1234]

I know this is a little OT even for this thread, but I feel it relates because of some talk of conspiracy and such.

I was listening to the song Dr. Aden by B.o.B and it had interviews going on in the background about how Bayer knowingly sent AIDs infected Factor VIII vaccines(?) overseas . The interviews said that it was the vaccine was sent to other countries because a lot of money had ben spent creating Factor VIII that Bayer had to make some money...I look

Now, I wasn't alive in the 80s and I'm too young to remember this in the 90s, but I talked to my dad who is a doctor, and he said this is the first he's heard of Factor VIII infected with AIDs being sent overseas.

So, the conspiracy that I'm curious about, is do you guys think that the US did, in fact, create the AIDs virus/knowingly sent it overseas (in order to make a profit)?


Here is some stuff to look at:

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/index2.php?opti ... f=1&id=318

I'm pretty sure I can't post the website to the interview because it's in another forum (that I don't belong to - googled the interview and found it lol). If I can, I'll post it (or the transcript here).

[magnumt]

^It's funny you mention AIDs. You see the HIV news about a guy cured through a blood transfusion this Week?

--Mags

[Knicksfan20]

^ I hear ya'.

You know what facinates me the most? The history of it all. The idea that there may have been really advanced Civilizations around way before the dawn of our Race, and then nature took its course and either forced them to leave or wiped them out.

--Mags

Ya i know. I was telling my girl the same thing about it being possible that technoligy was so advanced thousands of years ago and that the population was either erased or they had to go somewhere to avoid disaster(run on sentance, too tired to figure out how to fix it). We have no real proof of everything. They say the earth is over 450 million years old or something like that. I have no idea. And all that stuff about the hindu's and stuff sparked an intrest in me as well.

I might do some reading on that.

[NBA Fan 1234]

^It's funny you mention AIDs. You see the HIV news about a guy cured through a blood transfusion this Week?

--Mags

Ya I saw it here lol...pretty crazy. Didn't he almost die because of it?

[magnumt]

^ I hear ya'.

You know what facinates me the most? The history of it all. The idea that there may have been really advanced Civilizations around way before the dawn of our Race, and then nature took its course and either forced them to leave or wiped them out.

--Mags

Ya i know. I was telling my girl the same thing about it being possible that technoligy was so advanced thousands of years ago and that the population was either erased or they had to go somewhere to avoid disaster(run on sentance, too tired to figure out how to fix it). We have no real proof of everything. They say the earth is over 450 million years old or something like that. I have no idea. And all that stuff about the hindu's and stuff sparked an intrest in me as well.

I might do some reading on that.

They thought for YEARS that Mesopotamia was the oldest City on Earth, then they discovered regions that had Cities at least 5,000 Years older.

And you the best part? All of it was by accident by nomads/farmers!

Just imagine the amount of stuff we've lost to time due to Geological Upheval! Who knows if other types of advanced intelligence evolved on our Planet then died out, leaving little to no trace of them.

--Mags

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^It's funny you mention AIDs. You see the HIV news about a guy cured through a blood transfusion this Week?

--Mags

Ya I saw it here lol...pretty crazy. Didn't he almost die because of it?

Maybe, but a breakthrough the nonetheless. Could lead them to more focused research that may lead to more safer treatments or even a cure.

--Mags

[magnumt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts#Artifacts_and_artwork

[Kyo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts#Artifacts_and_artwork

Wow. This is conclusive evidence of the existence of Ancient Astronauts. What could possibly be a more reliable source than a vague oil painting on a fictional event? I should read more wikipedia to educate myself.

[Kyo]

I know this is a little OT even for this thread, but I feel it relates because of some talk of conspiracy and such.

I was listening to the song Dr. Aden by B.o.B and it had interviews going on in the background about how Bayer knowingly sent AIDs infected Factor VIII vaccines(?) overseas . The interviews said that it was the vaccine was sent to other countries because a lot of money had ben spent creating Factor VIII that Bayer had to make some money...I look

Now, I wasn't alive in the 80s and I'm too young to remember this in the 90s, but I talked to my dad who is a doctor, and he said this is the first he's heard of Factor VIII infected with AIDs being sent overseas.

So, the conspiracy that I'm curious about, is do you guys think that the US did, in fact, create the AIDs virus/knowingly sent it overseas (in order to make a profit)?


Here is some stuff to look at:

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/index2.php?opti ... f=1&id=318

I'm pretty sure I can't post the website to the interview because it's in another forum (that I don't belong to - googled the interview and found it lol). If I can, I'll post it (or the transcript here).

Definitely. The U.S are generating so much revenue on AIDS/HIV prevention and curing.
We all know that research on AIDS/HIV medication and treatment costs peanuts, so it was a slick financial decision to do so. For further proof, we all know that U.S residents are pretty much immune to the AIDs virus; we also know that third world countries such as Africa are literally gold mines and prime consumers of high end medication.

I once met a person that told me that the first case of the HIV virus occurred in North America. I just laughed in his face .

[Kyo]

^Way before Ancient Aliens tackled the idea again, it's been said that all of the Major Techs we enjoy now (like Microwaves, Velcro, GPS, and even Microships) are the result of "outside" influence.

Don't forget the internet and the revolving doors you can see at various hotels. I always knew there was something sketchy about Gore.

[magnumt]

^Relax there bro.

[ThePrez86]

This is what I call twisted knowledge, pieces of truth are encoded amongst cryptic lies arranged for you to be intrigued and captivated by it's deception. If you want to truly understand whats going on around you then read the Bible and then analyze the Quran. Don't allow years of programing deter you from reading the oldest texts available to the mainstream masses. Watching video's of this nature is like analyzing a painting without understanding who the artist was and whats his intentions. If you want to understand the big picture you must first do your research on the Author. (Let that marinate)

Ah yes, the old combat absurd nonsense with more absurd nonsense strategy.

[gavran]

Several Scientists have come out questioning the integrity of NASA's findings of this new bacteria. NASA isn't doing too much talking at this point after several issues have been raised(rolling eyes)

I'm sure several scientists came out and doubted Penicillin when it came out.

I'm sure several scientists came out and doubted Evolution when Darwin debuted it.

I'm sure several scientists came out and doubted a Round Planet and Non-Terran Central Planetary System when it debut.

Point being, that there will always be something to debate in Science.

One day Coffee is healthy for you, the next Day it's the leading cause of Cancer.

--Mags

One of my best friends-who is a biologist and is doing his P.H.D.- told me that the whole thing is indeed an overhyped media driven nonesence, and NASA didn't told us half the thruth about it.

[orangeblobman]

Well, Coffee is delicious, either way you slice it.

[j4remi]

This thread needs to be stickied IMHO. I caught the Ancient Astronauts eps, REALLY great stuff. The Third Reich episode BLEW MY MIND. The Noah's Ark being from thousands of years before Mesopatamia concept is pretty sick too, it actually made sense. I put together what they were saying before they actually made the statement. I have to find an online stream of Decoded though, it started at 2:00 AM and I was not staying up for that with work at 8.

[Knicksfan20]

This thread needs to be stickied IMHO. I caught the Ancient Astronauts eps, REALLY great stuff. The Third Reich episode BLEW MY MIND. The Noah's Ark being from thousands of years before Mesopatamia concept is pretty sick too, it actually made sense. I put together what they were saying before they actually made the statement. I have to find an online stream of Decoded though, it started at 2:00 AM and I was not staying up for that with work at 8.

Hell ya man, that show is nuts. I cant wait for more. I dont know as much on these subject matters as some of you, but i am exited to learn more!

[j4remi]

This thread needs to be stickied IMHO. I caught the Ancient Astronauts eps, REALLY great stuff. The Third Reich episode BLEW MY MIND. The Noah's Ark being from thousands of years before Mesopatamia concept is pretty sick too, it actually made sense. I put together what they were saying before they actually made the statement. I have to find an online stream of Decoded though, it started at 2:00 AM and I was not staying up for that with work at 8.

Hell ya man, that show is nuts. I cant wait for more. I dont know as much on these subject matters as some of you, but i am exited to learn more!

Yeah, I actually feel like I'm pretty familiar with a lot of these theories and ideas, but Ancient Astronauts always gives me new looks. The Bell craft story was crazy with the Nazi's. Also, if you check out the experts and media people they interview throughout that show, they all have really great stuff to look at. The Coast to Coast AM cat has a pretty cool web show, but sometimes it's got over the top insane theories...still it also has some REALLY interesting stuff.