Suns shopping Turkoglu...Orlando/Washington Trade Rumor

Post #121 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:32 pm

um wow guys....major, major brain fart. MY BAD.

ANYWAYS....I draw the line at Richardson for Carter. The season is over at that point.

RaisingArizona · Post #122 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:33 pm

rsavaj wrote:um wow guys....major, major brain fart. MY BAD.

Post #123 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:38 pm

I remember Nash calling Duhon when he was thinking about signing with New York, and Nash telling him that DA was a great coach and will change him.

Risensun · Post #124 » by **Risensun** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:42 pm

rsavaj wrote:
Risensun wrote:1st off acquiring Carter for Richardson is a huge downgrade. Richardson is expiring and one of the only bright spots of this season. 2nd, this trade doesn't really solve are weakness at pf. Hedo is pretty much worthless to the suns but no point in including JRich unless we get better.

Well, Gortat would allow us to play Frye at starting PF(and Frye has been balling as a starter.)

Jrich just has so much more value to this team then playing a backup Gortat for 18 minutes. Frye is already on the team and trading our starting shooting guard for a backup is just never a smart move.

If the goal is to get a backup center they're a lot cheaper ways to do it. Besides If Jrich is shipped out package him with some picks, warrick , whatever it takes to get a PF back. Only way Jrich is moved is for a starting PF. Acquiring a backup isn't enough to offset the loss offensively.

Risensun · Post #125 » by **Risensun** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:45 pm

On a side note, a 3 way should be worked out with Phoenix, Orlando and New Jersey where New Jersey has expirings going their way and we have Troy Murphy. He's just sitting on their roster, they want him gone.

Post #126 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:57 pm

Risensun wrote:Jrich just has so much more value to this team then playing a backup Gortat for 18 minutes. Frye is already on the team and trading our starting shooting guard for a backup is just never a smart move.

If the goal is to get a backup center they're a lot cheaper ways to do it. Besides If Jrich is shipped out package him with some picks, warrick , whatever it takes to get a PF back. Only way Jrich is moved is for a starting PF. Acquiring a backup isn't enough to offset the loss offensively.

Well the dilemma is really this. If the Suns did manage to trade Hedo and JRich for Vince Carter and Marcin Gortat, it would open up some more money for free agency this offseason. And the Suns don't want to lose Jrich for nothing like what we did with Amare. Gortat is a very serviceable big man who would probably get more minutes than 18 per game. In all likely hood, he'll probably end up starting and we'd have Robin Lopez and him splitting up the minutes 50/50 at center.

RaisingArizona · Post #127 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:01 pm

I like this deal without adding in jrich. I hope we can do that somehow.

cold5 · Post #128 » by **cold5** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:02 pm

# Orlando also close to moving rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a big to replace Gortat 4 minutes ago via Echofon

# Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs
http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard
No, No, No! Why VC for J-Rich. WHY?! They're both expirings. J-Rich is awesome. :cry:

Risensun · Post #129 » by **Risensun** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:02 pm

Chris Broussard wrote:Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs

If true I can't believe we're giving him up for Wince Carter. Say it ain't so...

http://twitter.com/chris_broussard

cold5 · Post #130 » by **cold5** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:03 pm

I just posted this.

Calvin Klein · Post #131 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:03 pm

not a fan.

Post #132 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:03 pm

Yeah we don't need another thread for this.

Calvin Klein · Post #133 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:04 pm

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Orlando-Phoenix closer on multi-player trade that's prelude to Arenas to Magic, sources say. Carter, Gortat and Hedo among several on move.

Post #134 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:04 pm

cold5 wrote:# Orlando also close to moving rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a big to replace Gortat 4 minutes ago via Echofon

# Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs
http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard
No, No, No! Why VC for J-Rich. WHY?! They're both expirings. J-Rich is awesome.

Let's hope Broussard is wrong like he usually is.

Post #135 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:04 pm

It needs to be done to get rid of Hedo!! It's the only way! I hate losing J-Rich's awesomeness but we get a huge addition my subtraction by losing Hedo. We don't even need to play Vince Carter, we can just play Dudley and Childress at the two, Hill and Clark at the three, lol.

swe_suns · Post #136 » by **swe_suns** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:05 pm

cold5 wrote:# Orlando also close to moving rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a big to replace Gortat 4 minutes ago via Echofon

# Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs
http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard
No, No, No! Why VC for J-Rich. WHY?! They're both expirings. J-Rich is awesome.

FML

in be4 VC gets injured against the spurs on monday

Calvin Klein · Post #137 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:05 pm

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Orlando-Phoenix closer on multi-player trade that's prelude to Arenas to Magic, sources say. Carter, Gortat and Hedo among several on move.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
In this scenario, Washington and Orlando make deal centered on Arenas for Rashard Lewis, sources tell Y!.

cold5 · Post #138 » by **cold5** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:06 pm

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Orlando-Phoenix closer on multi-player trade that's prelude to Arenas to Magic, sources say. Carter, Gortat and Hedo among several on move.
http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA
I hope this is a strategic non mention of J-Rich. Hedo for Gortat/others is just fine but J-Rich for Carter, no!!!!!!!

swe_suns · Post #139 » by **swe_suns** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:07 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Orlando-Phoenix closer on multi-player trade that's prelude to Arenas to Magic, sources say. Carter, Gortat and Hedo among several on move.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
In this scenario, Washington and Orlando make deal centered on Arenas for Rashard Lewis, sources tell Y!.

Why would they leave out Jrich's name? I know it says "among sevaral on move" but I would assume that is garbage players.

cold5 · Post #140 » by **cold5** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:07 pm

Qwigglez wrote:It needs to be done to get rid of Hedo!! It's the only way! I hate losing J-Rich's awesomeness but we get a huge addition my subtraction by losing Hedo. We don't even need to play Vince Carter, we can just play Dudley and Childress at the two, Hill and Clark at the three, lol.

J-Rich is practically riding this team on his back along with Nash. We might seriously go to a lottery team without him and I still want to see Nash on the Suns.