Official: Arenas/Hedo/Jrich takin talents to central FLORIDA

BadMofoPimp · Post #141 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

Supposedly:

Sources said that deal will likely send Rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas, as well as a Wizards big man to replace Gortat. Both deals could happen at around the same time.

Skin · Post #142 » by **Skin** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

Who cares about Martin? The guy is soft as Charmin'. OMG. Just stop. J-Rich is better in every way. We just need to figure out a way to bring him back.

woosah · Post #143 » by **woosah** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

They must really think they won't have to pay some of this salary. Magic ownership will be leading the cries for a lockout, haha.

cb1115 · Post #144 » by **cb1115** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

So does anyone think Phoenix will buyout Carter or keep him on the team?

silent4418 · Post #145 » by **silent4418** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

Vince Carter: PPS: 1.25 A/TO: 1.8

Jason Richardson: PPS: 1.24 A/TO: 1.2

FAN-TASTIC.

:roll:

tjm384 · Post #146 » by **tjm384** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

Any chance this trade was going to fall through. Broussard confirmed it on espnews

V15Carter · Post #147 » by **V15Carter** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Don't understand why Magic included 1st rd pick and cash.

Because we were already getting ass raped by Hedo's contract, so why not enjoy it?

TheChaser · Post #148 » by **TheChaser** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

SubyWill wrote:THIS IS HOW THE LINEUP IS GOING TO BE.

Nelson
J-Rich
Hedo
Bass
Howard

I like it! I'm convinced!

Arenas will be coming off the bench guys. He will not be starting.
Arenas coming off the bench is going to be VERY good for the team.

WE DON'T HAVE VC AND LEWIS ANYMORE!

I'm happy with this trade. Earl Clark has HUGE potential. This team is going to be better than the current roster.

I agree with ALL of this. I think Arenas would be great off the bench. That way if he gets hurt, the starting line up would stay the same. Or, if he's healthy, he could be a Manu for us.

vinageras · Post #149 » by **vinageras** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

So, basically:

Rashard Lewis (12.2ppg/4.2rpg/1.2apg/0.9spg/0.4bpg in 32.4 mpg) for Gilbert Arenas (17.3ppg/3.3rpg/5.6apg/1.4spg/0.6bpg in 34.6 mpg)
Vince Carter (15.1ppg/4.1rpg/2.9apg/0.9spg/0.1bpg in 30.2 mpg) for Jason Richardson (19.3ppg/4.4rpg/1.4apg/1.1spg/0.1bpg in 31.8 mpg)
Marcin Gortat (4.0ppg/4.7rpg/0.7apg/0.3spg/0.8bpg in 15.8 mpg) for Earl Clark (3.2ppg/1.9rpg/0.4apg/0.1spg/0.3bpg in 8 mpg)
Mickael Pietrus (6.7ppg/2.6rpg/0.5apg/0.5spg/0.2bpg in 22 mpg) for Hedo Turkoglu (9.5ppg/4rpg/2.3apg/0.7spg/0.3bpg in 25.2 mpg)

Awesome!!

MickaelPietrus · Post #150 » by **MickaelPietrus** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

kookie_819 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Don't understand why Magic included 1st rd pick and cash.

The cash is probably for the $4 mil Carter is owed next year. I have no freaking clue why we added the 1st or Gortat for that matter.

Gortat had to be there. Phoenix was jerking off to the idea of Lopez/Gortat shift at C.

Post #151 » by **Howard Mass** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

More role players could be in the deal but this is the biggest midseason overhaul of a team ever.

Earl Clark is probably in the deal to make up for Gortat but I do not like it along with kicking in a first.

I do not like the Phoenix deal.

There is a reason why J-Rich has bounced around so much and Hedo Turkoglu has an oversized contract and is wearing down.

Maybe this helps jumps start things in the short run but I do not think this is a good deal for the long-term future of this team.

CraZyPraiZ · Post #152 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

luvher_501 wrote:I actually think the suns trade is excellent.....despite what hedo has done he is still the perfect player for the magic team..he was a big part of the reason they made it to the finals...and Richardson is athletic and he slashes to the basket which the team needs instead of shooting all the jumpers...overall its a great deal

I agree. Hedo flourished in this system and he will do it again. Richardson is SUPERIOR to Carter at this stage in terms of an athletic wing that van finish and shoot his arse off. I think we gave up a bit much if we lose Gortat but I am sure that Otis was seeing his value go down also. Can't accuse him of staying pat. He had to do something.

True Warrior Zo · Post #153 » by **True Warrior Zo** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:07 pm

Howard Mass works his magic! No wonder no one has been patrolling the F&S forum!

IMO they need another big, they will be in trouble inside if Dwight gets into foul trouble in the playoffs.

Post #154 » by **SOUL** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:07 pm

Im gonna go play basketball. Be back!

SolidSnake008 · Post #155 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:07 pm

what effect will this have on our game tonight? lol

AdamTheGreek · Post #156 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:07 pm

jrich23 Jason Richardson
opportunity to play in Orlando! Thanks for all the love and support you guys showed me. God Bless!

jrich23 Jason Richardson
It's been a great 2 1/2 yrs Suns fans! My family and I enjoyed out time around such a great organization and fans. I'm excited about

BadMofoPimp · Post #157 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:07 pm

Hoopsworld reports;

The Orlando Magic have completed trades with the Washington Wizards and Phoenix Suns that will radically change the face of the team.

In two separate trades, the Magic acquired Gilbert Arenas from the Wizards in exchange for Rashard Lewis, and they re-acquired Hedo Turkoglu, who was a member of the 2009 NBA Finals team, by sending Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat and Mikael Pietrus to the Suns. Orlando also gets Jason Richardson from Phoenix in the deal.

This is a risky move for the Magic, no question, as they give up their only back-up center in the deal, and they also take on a huge contract in Gilbert Arenas, whose injury history is well-documented. Dealing Carter was all but guaranteed, given his inability to fit in with Orlando's gameplan (or get along with Dwight Howard), and Jason Richardson is absolutely an upgrade, but this trade is not without its long-term risks for the Magic.

First of all, the Magic, who are in championship-or-bust-cost-be-damned mode, take on Gilbert Arenas at $17.7 million this season, $19.3 next season, $20.8 the following year (ETO) and $22.3 in 2013-14. They also take on Turkoglu at $9.8 million this season, $10.6 million next, and $11.4 in the final year.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?sto ... z18UnrAI1H

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18230

CraZyPraiZ · Post #158 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:08 pm

Howard Mass wrote:More role players could be in the deal but this is the biggest midseason overhaul of a team ever.

Earl Clark is probably in the deal to make up for Gortat but I do not like it along with kicking in a first.

I do not like the Phoenix deal.

There is a reason why J-Rich has bounced around so much and Hedo Turkoglu has an oversized contract and is wearing down.

Maybe this helps jumps start things in the short run but I do not think this is a good deal for the long-term future of this team.

There is no long term in basketball. You have to play to win now or risk losing Dwight. Otis had to do something as this team was going nowhere fast.

AdamTheGreek · Post #159 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:08 pm

Interesting:

SolidSnake008 · Post #160 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:09 pm

SO...the deals are done?