Official Trade Thread XIV: 6/14/10 - 12/22/10

[Astonished]

I refuse to believe that Shard is as bad as you all say he is. The guy is still capable of playing at a high level.

We were all waiting for Gilbert to come around and start playing like he used to, but we don't have the patience for Shard?

Sure, he doesn't fit in with Howard and Thornton at the 3, but he did play the 2 in Orlando when it was he and Turk out there.

It probably won't happen, but a big lineup doesn't seem all too bad:

McGee/Seraphin
Blatche/Booker
Howard/Thornton
Lewis/Young
Wall/Hinrich

Are you **** nuts?

[Terpman]

Maybe EG hopes to depress the players into tanking completely for a shot at the top pick again? What other possible reason do you acquire Rashard-No D-No Rebound-No Assist-Lewis??? Dumping Arenas & not even acquiring an expiring contract in return is a sick joke on our long-suffering fans.
Screw Leonsis and this entire organization if this crap turns out to be true. Teddy-B's goodwill/cred will be spent with me.

[AceDegenerate]

I refuse to believe that Shard is as bad as you all say he is. The guy is still capable of playing at a high level.

[mhd]

Nick Young is 10 times the player Lewis is now. I'd rather "Eddie Curry" Lewis and play the young guys.

[jivelikenice]

I really don't get the absolute whining on this board. Arenas is not the same player he was. PERIOD.

We traded a soon to be 29 year old combo guard coming off numerous injuries and basically 3-years of inactivity with the worst contract in the NBA. What did you expect? I'm a huge Gil fan and will be pulling for the Magic in the playoffs but lets be real. He is not and will not be Agent Zero again...Those days are over. He was apathetic on the court this year and obviously wanted out. Orlando was the only team that was going to deal for him. Do I like Lewis? No. But we save $20 mil over the life of the deal and you probably can move him if we take on other similar contracts in return. Did you really think Orlando was going to bail us out with Vince's expiring deal. If we wanted that contract we would have HAD to throw in a young piece as an incentive. We were not winning about to turn the corner with Gil and people waiting for that are being illogical....

[no D in Hibachi]

On the bright side when Howard comes back the Wiz can use Shart as the back up 4, thus totally eliminating Yi from the rotation.

[MJG]

I'll be in the tiny minority and say I'm fine with the deal. Assuming Arenas wasn't going to give us the same choice to convert his player option to a team option he's rumored to be giving to Orlando, we effectively turned a 3 year, $63~ million contract into a 2 year, $45~ million contract, which is a nice financial plus. Lewis is worse than Arenas on the court, but neither is an all-star any more, and we're not on the verge of contending for anything in the next year or two anyways. I think there's an emotional component of this for many, but for me, it's been four years since the guy has done anything positive for the franchise, so I've long since stopped caring about him on that level.

So all in all, I'm in favor of the trade. Granted, I'd say this is just about the worst possible Arenas trade that I'd still be in favor of, but still, I'm in favor.

[Terpman]

Pathetic.

[fishercob]

Friends, I feel all of your pain. I really do. Gil has been central to my Wiz-love over the past several years.

But the sad truth is that THIS is his market value. There's one GM willing to take a shot on him, and only at the expense of another really bad contract. If Orlando pulled the deal off the table, who knows how long we'd have been stuck with Gilbert for? We're 6-15. He's not playing well. He wanted out. We're rebuilding.

It was time.

This is going to save ownership a lot of money that i have NO DOUBT they are going to re-invest into building this franchise. It's a tough day. This medicine doesn't taste good, but it's going to help us get healthy.

Go Wiz.

[jimij]

I refuse to believe that Shard is as bad as you all say he is. The guy is still capable of playing at a high level.

We were all waiting for Gilbert to come around and start playing like he used to, but we don't have the patience for Shard?

I'm sorry, when the hell did Shard ever play at a high level?????

The only reason he fit in in Orlando is that every opposing team was so worried about Howard that he was always open plus Dwight could cover for him defensively. I fail to see how a guy that Gil rebounds better than could help us at all this year.

The only thing I like about this trade is that Gil gets a chance to play on a good team so that he can rehab his image. There's nothing I like about this trade for the Wizards.

[mhd]

I'll be in the tiny minority and say I'm fine with the deal. Assuming Arenas wasn't going to give us the same choice to convert his player option to a team option he's rumored to be giving to Orlando, we effectively turned a 3 year, $63~ million contract into a 2 year, $45~ million contract, which is a nice financial plus. Lewis is worse than Arenas on the court, but neither is an all-star any more, and we're not on the verge of contending for anything in the next year or two anyways. I think there's an emotional component of this for many, but for me, it's been four years since the guy has done anything positive for the franchise, so I've long since stopped caring about him on that level.

So all in all, I'm in favor of the trade. Granted, I'd say this is just about the worst possible Arenas trade that I'd still be in favor of, but still, I'm in favor.

If we were going to be Free Agency players this year (with Gasol obviously the #1 target), then there was no reason for this deal as Lewis makes significantly more per year, thus cutting our cap space. I'm working on ways to ship Lewis out pronto. Off to the trade checker!

[Benjammin]

Friends, I feel all of your pain. I really do. Gil has been central to my Wiz-love over the past several years.

But the sad truth is that THIS is his market value. There's one GM willing to take a shot on him, and only at the expense of another really bad contract. If Orlando pulled the deal off the table, who knows how long we'd have been stuck with Gilbert for? We're 6-15. He's not playing well. He wanted out. We're rebuilding.

It was time.

This is going to save ownership a lot of money that i have NO DOUBT they are going to re-invest into building this franchise. It's a tough day. This medicine doesn't taste good, but it's going to help us get healthy.

Go Wiz.

Please don't bring reasonableness and logic here. This is a lot of pent up emotion about this craptastic franchise and I will feel better when EG is GONE, but until then I have little confidence in a rebuilding job for the Wiz unless Mrs. Pollin goes to the lottery again next year, the Wiz get the first pick, and there's actually someone worth taking with that pick.

[dandridge 10]

Nothing is set in stone at this point, so I'm not going to get all riled up right now. However, I will say this. If we do a straight-up Arenas-Lewis swap with no other deal in place to move Rashard, I will not be renewing my season-tickets next year. This organization is crap if they do that deal. While I am resigned to the fact Arenas needs to go, I don't see how getting another soft big guy with a bad contract is good for this team. We'll see what happens, but if this deal goes through Leonsis will certainly be hearing from me as a season ticket holder.

[Terpman]

Friends, I feel all of your pain. I really do. Gil has been central to my Wiz-love over the past several years.

But the sad truth is that THIS is his market value. There's one GM willing to take a shot on him, and only at the expense of another really bad contract. If Orlando pulled the deal off the table, who knows how long we'd have been stuck with Gilbert for? We're 6-15. He's not playing well. He wanted out. We're rebuilding.

It was time.

This is going to save ownership a lot of money that i have NO DOUBT they are going to re-invest into building this franchise. It's a tough day. This medicine doesn't taste good, but it's going to help us get healthy.

Go Wiz.

Is that you Ernie?? If we needed to move on from Gil, I'd have rather Starbury'd him than swapped him for another long, garbage deal. EG couldn't even get an expiring in 2yrs player?? What a joke.
If Gil goes to Orlando & it turns out he's been playing possum to get out of DC & Ernie let him do it for nothing in return, this organization will have major rotten egg on their faces. There is just zero upside to this deal. Screw 20million in 3 years. Not worth the risk for no draft picks or young players in return.
And truthfully, I've been over any infatuation with Gil for about 3 years now. This is just a nonsense deal. I'd happily trade Gil for an expiring bag of potato chips. Getting a non-expiring bag of moldy chips just pisses me off.

[mattyBoi]

He's not THAT bad guys. I still am a fan, he is just in a shooting slump right now. You also have to look at the team he played on, the Magic have a lot ball dominators and scorers.

[jivelikenice]

Maybe the plan isn't to be a player this year. Maybe the plan is to add another high lottery pick, see how the CBA shakes out, then be players in 2012 when we'll be a LOT more attractive to free agents....

[jivelikenice]

Friends, I feel all of your pain. I really do. Gil has been central to my Wiz-love over the past several years.

But the sad truth is that THIS is his market value. There's one GM willing to take a shot on him, and only at the expense of another really bad contract. If Orlando pulled the deal off the table, who knows how long we'd have been stuck with Gilbert for? We're 6-15. He's not playing well. He wanted out. We're rebuilding.

It was time.

This is going to save ownership a lot of money that i have NO DOUBT they are going to re-invest into building this franchise. It's a tough day. This medicine doesn't taste good, but it's going to help us get healthy.

Go Wiz.

Is that you Ernie?? If we needed to move on from Gil, I'd have rather Starbury'd him than swapped him for another long, garbage deal. EG couldn't even get an expiring in 2yrs player?? What a joke.
If Gil goes to Orlando & it turns out he's been playing possum to get out of DC & Ernie let him do it for nothing in return, this organization will have major rotten egg on their faces. There is just zero upside to this deal. Screw 20million in 3 years. Not worth the risk for no draft picks or young players in return.

He's not playing possum. You can't fake that lack of explosion when he goes to the hoop. He's going to the situation he needs to be in at this time....As a role player on a playoff veteran team....

Draft picks and young players in return for Gil? Who in their right mind was going to give us that? Please tell me

[mhd]

WHat about this 3-way:

Wiz trade: Lewis for Redd (needs to be seperate to work under CBA rules)

Wiz trade: McGee+Hinrich for Batum+Gooden+Boykins
Bucks trades: Gooden+Maggette+Boykins+2011+Dooling 1st rounder for Camby+Hinrich
Por trades: Batum+Camby for Dooling+Maggette+Bucks 2011 1st rounder+McGee

[AceDegenerate]

It's a done deal for those who are still doubting it.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... -turkoglu/

[jivelikenice]

I refuse to believe that Shard is as bad as you all say he is. The guy is still capable of playing at a high level.

Come on dude...Are you serious? Stat comparison between players on a bad team v a player on a deeper playoff team?