*MERGED* Done Deal. Goodbye Jrich/Hedo/Clark

[nash2amare]

Could see a potential three team trade that involves New York, Phoenix, and Denver.
Suns get-
Anthony Randolph
JR Smith

Knicks get-
Melo
Josh Childress

Nuggets get-
Wilson Chandler
Eddy Curry
Ronny Turiaf
Landry Fields
1st Round Pick (Magic)
1st Round Pick (Knicks)

Nash/Dragic
Carter/Smith
Hill/Dudley
Randolph/Warrick
Gortat/Lopez

Suns would have a ton of money for the offseason!! I don't like Smith's attitude though...

I think Newyork wouldn't do it.
it's clear that Anthony is going Knicks no matter what.
Why would they give up Chanler(who's playing good right now), Fields(whom dantoni loves), AR, and 1stRoundPIck.,.

[RaisingArizona]

Whoa.... just came home and learning all this!!!!!!! Who is sending the 1st rounder? I gotta go find more details now.

We get Orlando's 1st this year. 2 first rounders this year!

[Risensun]

Whoa.... just came home and learning all this!!!!!!! Who is sending the 1st rounder? I gotta go find more details now.

Jrich, Turk and Clark for Carter, Gortat, Pietrus and Orlando 1st.

[KLEON]

why are people saying that nash is upset about the deal, I heard he's excited about the trade and said that he'll miss j rich because he's a good friend and teammate.

[peteyjones13]

Raps fan here,
Having watched Vince's entire career, he's still a pretty special player, obviously a HUGE HUGE upgrade over probably the most overrated player in the game in Turk, and I would say an upgrade over JRich too. I'm excited to watch him play with Steve Nash.

[Kerrsed]

We now have ORL's 1st to send to NY for Randolph too!

Nash/Dragic
VC/Dudley
Hill/Peitrus/Childress
AR/Frye/Warrick
Lopez/Gortat/Barron

so pretty much we gave up Jrich/Hedo/Clark for VC/Peitrus/Gortat/AR/$$$! Me likey!

[bastillon]

Suns fan here, some probably know me from PC Board. all I wanted to say is that you guys are idiots if you don't think Suns aren't gonna DRASTICALLY improve from this trade. I can easily bet my dick they're gonna finish on like ~55-60W pace for the rest of the year.

I mean how can you consider yourself Suns fans and not know what the F we effing need ?! Suns have been the worst rebounding team in recent history, worse than Nelson's Warriors, worse than any team I've ever seen. what we need is a big who can block shots, protect the paint and rebound.

Gortat's per36 numbers are 12 rebounds and almost 2 blocks. defense ? well, consider this: when Howard sits, Magic barely regress on defense. I've always said it, Gortat is one of the best defensive bigs in the league and you're gonna know soon enough. he's a great rebounder, he's very athletic and oh boy he's million times better than whatever scrubs we were playing this year.

Gortat alone makes this trade worthy, and now we're giving up Richardson who would walk away in the summer anyway, Turkoglu who sucks and is the worst player in the league as a PF and that freakin scrub Earl Clark who can't even dribble that goddamn ball, and you think we're not raping them ? and we're also getting Vince and Pietrus ? AND CASH ? AND FIRST ROUNDER ?!

this is one of the most lopsided trades in recent history, Gasol-to-Memphis ballpark. Suns are now easily top10-15 defense with Gortat, Pietrus and Carter. we're also better offensively because Barron isn't gonna be playing no mo'.

I'm getting my ass drunk tonight cause it's time to celebrate. don't be fooling yourselves, Suns are gonna be great!

[rsavaj]

why are people saying that nash is upset about the deal, I heard he's excited about the trade and said that he'll miss j rich because he's a good friend and teammate.

Where'd you hear that he's excited?

I read the "damn" in his tweet.

And I think the whole "let's keep trading teammates/good friends you work so hard to build chemistry with!" thing probably got old, like, oh, I dunno, 3 years ago?

Anyways, here's to GORTAT:

[Jimmy76]

we dump a ton of salary and get a big im all for it

Nash/Dragic
Dudley/Pietrus
Hill/Childress
Frye/Warrick
Lopez/Gortat (or reverse that I dont know)

Left out Carter we're still one wing over what we need but at least our frontcourt makes sense now

edit: not quite as optimistic as Bast

Gortat or Lopez starting?

[b-ball forever]

Nice an extra pick. I hope we re-sign Pietrus.

Your not going to want anything to do with Pietrus in a few months. All the guy does is jack up 3s. He has taken 6 fta all season. He has the worst bball iq in the NBA.

J-Rich has low BB-IQ too and he fit in great. Don't need any of that next to Nash, just a guy who can catch and shoot, finish in transition, and play good perimeter D.

Pietrus does all of that.

[Fo-Real]

Nice an extra pick. I hope we re-sign Pietrus.

Your not going to want anything to do with Pietrus in a few months. All the guy does is jack up 3s. He has taken 6 fta all season. He has the worst bball iq in the NBA.

Worst B-ball I.q. huh....... MEET EARL THE DIM PEAR CLARK!!!!

[blackjays1]

This is a terrible trade, trading Jrich who's arguably at the peak of his career, who aside from Stat has been the player most in sync with Nash in the past 5 years, he was the only thing keeping us from being a basement team because the Nash/Richardson backcourt is the best in the nba. So now we got a guy in Carter whos on the tail end of his career, a guy in Gortat who will backup Lopez at the most, and a guy in Pietrus whos averages a grand total of 7 & 3 in 23 minutes.

Instead of taking steps forward we take a step back, we never needed a backup center, we never needed an extra wing. What we need is a starting caliber PF or C and unless they've got another trade lined up we're not getting what we need. This is just going to piss Nash off and believe me if he wants a trade he'll get a trade.

**** this team my hate for VC exceeds my love for Nash i really don't think i can watch this team anymore.

[B-Ball-IQ]

No chance warrick starts

Gortat over Lopez? Lopez to the defensive second unit?

Gortat over Lopez in a heart beat!

[Jimmy76]

Nice an extra pick. I hope we re-sign Pietrus.

Your not going to want anything to do with Pietrus in a few months. All the guy does is jack up 3s. He has taken 6 fta all season. He has the worst bball iq in the NBA.

J-Rich has low BB-IQ too and he fit in great. Don't need any of that next to Nash, just a guy who can catch and shoot, finish in transition, and play good perimeter D.

Pietrus does all of that.

if carters healthy we dont even have the minutes for him its not a huge deal

[MickaelPietrus]

You guys will be beast after this trade. I garantee it.

[phx#7]

And I think the whole "let's keep trading teammates/good friends you work so hard to build chemistry with!" thing probably got old, like, oh, I dunno, 3 years ago?

I think you're making way too big a deal of this. Remember the Amare trades that fell through during the 2009 draft? Nash ended up extending with the team AFTER that knowing full well Amare could be dealt at any time.

Unless a team actually offers something close to fair value or Nash outright demands a trade, both of which are highly unlikely, Nash will stay with the team.

[SUN]

You guys will be beast after this trade. I garantee it.

Really?

[B-Ball-IQ]

Suns fan here, some probably know me from PC Board. all I wanted to say is that you guys are idiots if you don't think Suns aren't gonna DRASTICALLY improve from this trade. I can easily bet my dick they're gonna finish on like ~55-60W pace for the rest of the year.

I mean how can you consider yourself Suns fans and not know what the F we effing need ?! Suns have been the worst rebounding team in recent history, worse than Nelson's Warriors, worse than any team I've ever seen. what we need is a big who can block shots, protect the paint and rebound.

Gortat's per36 numbers are 12 rebounds and almost 2 blocks. defense ? well, consider this: when Howard sits, Magic barely regress on defense. I've always said it, Gortat is one of the best defensive bigs in the league and you're gonna know soon enough. he's a great rebounder, he's very athletic and oh boy he's million times better than whatever scrubs we were playing this year.

Gortat alone makes this trade worthy, and now we're giving up Richardson who would walk away in the summer anyway, Turkoglu who sucks and is the worst player in the league as a PF and that freakin scrub Earl Clark who can't even dribble that goddamn ball, and you think we're not raping them ? and we're also getting Vince and Pietrus ? AND CASH ? AND FIRST ROUNDER ?!

this is one of the most lopsided trades in recent history, Gasol-to-Memphis ballpark. Suns are now easily top10-15 defense with Gortat, Pietrus and Carter. we're also better offensively because Barron isn't gonna be playing no mo'.

I'm getting my ass drunk tonight cause it's time to celebrate. don't be fooling yourselves, Suns are gonna be great!

Well-said! Completely agree with every word including Hedo being the worst "PF"

[Cutter]

We now have ORL's 1st to send to NY for Randolph too!

Nash/Dragic
VC/Dudley
Hill/Peitrus/Childress
AR/Frye/Warrick
Lopez/Gortat/Barron

so pretty much we gave up Jrich/Hedo/Clark for VC/Peitrus/Gortat/AR/$$$! Me likey!

Great way of looking at it! I've been worried about the PF spot not being filled correctly but ORL 1st to NY for AR would help Suns and Knicks.

[sunsfan3]

In my opinion, this might work out. MIGHT.
I think this will happen:
1) next year, carter retires.
2) we trade either Josh Childress or Peitris, depending on this years performance..
3) we resign JRich, then sign a true PF

this is what I'm hoping for... otherwise, i don't like the deal.
carter is too old and an injury-prone player. Gortat is only a decent center. and finally, we don't need another wing player (Peitris). then, we lost JRich</3. I'm glad Hedo is gone though