Official: Arenas/Hedo/Jrich takin talents to central FLORIDA

Doharg · Post #581 » by **Doharg** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:16 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:The only good thing about the Phoenix trade is that I still have Turkoglu jersey,but seriously Phoenix would trade Hedo for expirings easily.

Q,Pietrus,Duhon for Hedo

The only good thing about this trade for me is that I will have far more free time now...now that NBA basketball is dead to me. =)

Big A All Day · Post #582 » by **Big A All Day** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:16 pm

I heard Gilbert Arenas was really appreciative that the #wizards sent him to the place where he really wanted to be. He's in great spirits.

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TheChaser · Post #583 » by **TheChaser** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:17 pm

Jameer is the starting point guard of this team guys. Arenas will play the two or come off the bench. Most likely the two. Turk will be coming off the bench, and he can shoot as much as he pleases. The only thing we need now is a back up center. And time to gel. That's it.

Mr. Dynomite! · Post #584 » by **Mr. Dynomite!** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:18 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:Magic fans I like this trade for you guys from an offensive stand point, but I'm wondering what you guys feel about the defensive side ?

Something tells me Orlando will have to make a counter move for a grit type 4, I don't see Turk digging in against the thugs of east like KG, Haslem ( I know he's done) or Amar'e and Horford.

Do you guys anticipate anything else ?

Nice moves though, definitely give you more fire power.

I agree the Magic need a Brandon Bass-like player at the 4.

ADRajX · Post #585 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:18 pm

SVG has to assert his defensive philosophy to the new guys (well Hedo should know the drill though) in order for this to all work... the offense we're receiving is ridiculous, but the defense needs to be there

TheChaser · Post #586 » by **TheChaser** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:Magic fans I like this trade for you guys from an offensive stand point, but I'm wondering what you guys feel about the defensive side ?

Something tells me Orlando will have to make a counter move for a grit type 4, I don't see Turk digging in against the thugs of east like KG, Haslem ( I know he's done) or Amar'e and Horford.

Do you guys anticipate anything else ?

Nice moves though, definitely give you more fire power.

Bass is our four holmes.

SolidSnake008 · Post #587 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:Magic fans I like this trade for you guys from an offensive stand point, but I'm wondering what you guys feel about the defensive side ?

Something tells me Orlando will have to make a counter move for a grit type 4, I don't see Turk digging in against the thugs of east like KG, Haslem ( I know he's done) or Amar'e and Horford.

Do you guys anticipate anything else ?

Nice moves though, definitely give you more fire power.

Defense was never our problem or at least wasn't....it just that we couldn't score....Boston last year proved that if you stay home on Dwight and run us off the 3pt line we can't score....we didn't have anyone that could create their own shot without the use of a screen or pick...now we do imo...We still have Dwight and with him alone we'll still be a top 10 defense cause he's just that good imo

Nemesis21 · Post #588 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:Magic fans I like this trade for you guys from an offensive stand point, but I'm wondering what you guys feel about the defensive side ?

Something tells me Orlando will have to make a counter move for a grit type 4, I don't see Turk digging in against the thugs of east like KG, Haslem ( I know he's done) or Amar'e and Horford.

Do you guys anticipate anything else ?

Nice moves though, definitely give you more fire power.

That's what B Squared is for. (Brandon Bass)

TMACDJD · Post #589 » by **TMACDJD** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

David89 wrote:Can anyone tell me if either of the trades are confirmed and if they are what exactly are they? Don't have time to read 38 pages :$

Lazy ass, go to ESPN for a sum up

Max Power · Post #590 » by **Max Power** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

Part of me believes there is still more player acquisitions coming, the Magic have enough guards to work Alcatraz now. We need some size, wouldn't be surprised at all to see Duhon and maybe Anderson dealt for some frontcourt depth. I personally love Jason Richardson being here, we need that aggressive scorer that Vince was supposed to be, he provides that. Worried about defense and rebounding though, Gortat did a lot just being out there, he'll be missed I think.

Shanghai Kid · Post #591 » by **Shanghai Kid** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:20 pm

Deezy wrote:
Shanghai Kid wrote:I wouldn't really take Arenas's fg% seriously. He's been going through the motions a bit this season, and the Wizards really didn't have anybody to open up things for him.

It's not just this season. He's a career 42% shooter.

Yeah but you have to remember that he was also getting shooting tons of 3-pointers and free throws. His TS% and overall efficiency were both very good in his prime.

He's also never played with a decent big man. Gilbert can shoot from anywhere on the court, hell he probably has the most range in NBA history.

oakfanintheeast · Post #592 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:20 pm

Jameer Nelson is not a good NBA player. Arenas, healthy, is an elite nba player.

I don't understand the disconnect.

You reduced Jameer Nelson's mins. to about 20 off the bench, particularly if he steal feels the need to gun and fire up terrible shots instead of getting the ball to the much better offensive threats.

You aren't in the a-10 any more, Toto.

Nolimit1211 · Post #593 » by **Nolimit1211** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:20 pm

Gil was born in Tampa. C'mon Gil, rep the hometeam like that old man was supposed to!

David89 · Post #594 » by **David89** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:21 pm

We got Earl Clark from the Suns which is a back up C, he's young and has a lot of upside. I'm not sure how he'd fair in games where Dwight gets in early foul trouble though and is required to play big minutes.

Post #595 » by **FFBlitzace** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:22 pm

oakfanintheeast wrote:Jameer Nelson is not a good NBA player.

I'm not sure what to say to that, so here's Vince carter getting rejected by Brian Cook:

Tekkenlaw · Post #596 » by **Tekkenlaw** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:22 pm

How is this bad?

Richardson>Carter
Arenas>Shard
Turkoglu>Spare parts like Pietrus

Deezy · Post #597 » by **Deezy** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:23 pm

Shanghai Kid wrote:
Deezy wrote:
Shanghai Kid wrote:I wouldn't really take Arenas's fg% seriously. He's been going through the motions a bit this season, and the Wizards really didn't have anybody to open up things for him.

It's not just this season. He's a career 42% shooter.

Yeah but you have to remember that he was also getting shooting tons of 3-pointers and free throws. His TS% and overall efficiency were both very good in his prime.

He's also never played with a decent big man. Gilbert can shoot from anywhere on the court, hell he probably has the most range in NBA history.

I agree that he will (or should, at least) perform better with Dwight demanding double and triple teams down low. Hopefully he can reign in those heat checks and actually attack the basket, which this team sorely lacks.

Deezy · Post #598 » by **Deezy** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:23 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:
oakfanintheeast wrote:Jameer Nelson is not a good NBA player.

I'm not sure what to say to that, so here's Vince carter getting rejected by Brian Cook:

Nolimit1211 · Post #599 » by **Nolimit1211** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:24 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:
oakfanintheeast wrote:Jameer Nelson is not a good NBA player.

I'm not sure what to say to that, so here's Vince carter getting rejected by Brian Cook:

LOL!

Lakersmylife · Post #600 » by **Lakersmylife** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:24 pm

Hey magic fans, a laker fan here.

Two great moves IMO by the magic. HEdo isnt the player he used to be but he can still be effective at times and richardson, oh my goodness...Earlier this year the suns beat us at home and i caught a glimpse of how good this guy is this season.

Then flipping Lewis for Gilbert was excellent IF Arenas can keep his head straight, which i think he will now that he's under his friend otis smith and finally on a contender. Anyways congrats guys, hope you guys enjoy the moves!