Official: Arenas/Hedo/Jrich takin talents to central FLORIDA

[Hilltop]

Richardson works out because he is better at playing off the ball than Carter is. He is going to adjust to that role just fine.

What I am skeptical about is the **** that is Nelson, Arenas, and Turkoglu.

Agreed wholeheartedly. If you replace Carter and Lewis with JRich and Turkoglu in the starting lineup, that is a clear upgrade on paper offensively, probably a wash defensively. However, adding Arenas to the mix just confuses things. We now have 3 ball-dominant scorers who are at most the 2nd option on the team. We lost 2 of our 3 good defenders (now Howard is literally the only good defensive player left on the team).

Still, the old team was going nowhere. This team, at least, has a chance to be great if things gel.

I'm actually liking the new look with Arenas on board. That is of course, if we are getting the Gilbert Arenas we think we are getting. For that to happen, Turkoglu will have to know his place and not get 'ball', and Nelson will have to defer as well. Else this is just Carter all over again except even more crowded now.

[idajazz]

I think this trade makes Orlando much better. If Arenas can get anywhere close to what he was a couple yrs ago look out.
I think the change of address is exactly what Arenas needed. I think he will have a chip on his shoulder and want to prove that he is still an all star.
J-rich and Hedo are both solid.

[fendilim]

btw, just out of curiosity, I read somewhere earlier that we'd be having cap space for 2012. Does it mean Arenas waived his last year too?

[davidse]

you should target kwame brown.

just about the only available center for what you have to offer.

orton for brown
duhon/allen for brown/najera

j will + 2nd rounder

whatever

but looking around realisticaly, i think kwame is your guy. (unfortunatly ? )

Honestly, I think he is a good serviceable big. He has good post defense.

that he does.

it's about all he has, but he has size, and most importantly - should be available for cheap.

[Qhawe]

Good trade fellas. VC is scum, he will always fold when it matter. you've got guys with heart on your team now and can make big shots

[magicmamma]

In his pregame interview, Otis said he expected that sometimes Gil and Jameer would be playing together and sometimes Gil would be backing up Jameer.

[orlandomike]

I would have made the trade for arenas and dealt one guy maybe carter for Hedo and i would have stopped there. gortat peaches a #1 way too much.

[p0peye]

Only part I dont like is getting Hedo back, but here's hoping that he'll make me eat crow in June.

However, this shouldn't be the end of retooling, we need some defense in the backcourt, as Dwight pointed out recently.

[Skin]

the difference with shard and before all the other trades, is that you had options -
you had other assets with which to possibly entice teams to take shard at next year's deadline. or you had tradable players to move so that even with lewis and howard's bird rights - you'd still have cap room for a max deal a-la miami for chris paul.

so imo - i think that's ^ what's changed now.

you had a very good team with an exit strategy to keep your superstar.
now, you may have a better team, but you have to wonder if it's good enough to win it all and have you lost that exit strategy - which i fear you have.

i think wade has shown that it doesn't matter if you had a bad team the previous year - if your team presents you with a bright future (much less your home team) - you will gladly resign and even give up money...

so i do think you took a huge huge risk today, and i think that this specific risk (of losing howard) is just not worth it and i wouldn't have made those moves.

doesn't mean i'll turn out right eventually, but it's how i see it -
keeping howard > all, and keeping howard will have a lot more to do with future prospect than past success if the roster isn't flexible to allow improvement.

We never had flexibility to add a max FA before Dwight's contract was over. So your logic is flawed.

[Big A All Day]

Jameer Nelson is not a good NBA player.

I'm not sure what to say to that, so here's Vince carter getting rejected by Brian Cook:

Isn't it INSANE that The Cookie Monster Ended VC's Homecoming? lol

[fendilim]

In his pregame interview, Otis said he expected that sometimes Gil and Jameer would be playing together and sometimes Gil would be backing up Jameer.

I read somewhere that SVG has reservations about Arenas, and Jameer will likely start with one of the 3 key acquisitions coming off the bench.

[Skin]

Good trade fellas. VC is scum, he will always fold when it matter. you've got guys with heart on your team now and can make big shots

That's a big key now. The heart is back. Vince and Rashard were waaaaaaay to nonchalant about their business.

[Hilltop]

Can people WAKE UP? I keep seeing people say that Otis didn't want to pay for Hedo before, but he wants to now... WAKE UP! Otis WANTED Hedo, but he couldn't compound the kind of contract Hedo wanted WITH RASHARD'S contract still on the books.

But in today's scenario, he dumped Rashard's contract.

.. and took Arenas'?

I think it's safe to say that trading for Hedo wasn't part of the plan. What we can be sure of is that Phoenix wasn't going to pull the trigger if Orlando didn't take Turkoglu back. That was pretty much the clincher for the Richardson swap to take place.

[cedric76]

what will happen to jj?

[SolidSnake008]

what will happen to jj?

nothing imo...his role will barely change

[Skin]

what will happen to jj?

He'll complain about playing time and hopefully get traded.

[tiderulz]

Richardson works out because he is better at playing off the ball than Carter is. He is going to adjust to that role just fine.

What I am skeptical about is the **** that is Nelson, Arenas, and Turkoglu.

Agreed wholeheartedly. If you replace Carter and Lewis with JRich and Turkoglu in the starting lineup, that is a clear upgrade on paper offensively, probably a wash defensively. However, adding Arenas to the mix just confuses things. We now have 3 ball-dominant scorers who are at most the 2nd option on the team. We lost 2 of our 3 good defenders (now Howard is literally the only good defensive player left on the team).

Still, the old team was going nowhere. This team, at least, has a chance to be great if things gel.

Hedo isnt a "2nd option" for scoring. He needs to be a facilitator, he made his money he doesnt need to worry about stats, just keep the ball going to open players and score when that person is him.

[thelead]

these moves were done with time to evaluate and still make trades closer to the deadline. We'll roll with this bunch and go from there.

[Last Guardian]

what will happen to jj?

He'll complain about playing time and hopefully get traded.

Lol. Is this a game of musical chairs to you?

[ADRajX]

First Option Offense
1. Howard

The Rest:
2. J-Rich/Arenas
3. Arenas/J-Rich/Nelson
4. Nelson/Turk/
5. Turk/Nelson
6. Redick
7. Bass