OT Big Trade For East Elite

[Jase]

Awesome trade for the Magic. I'm ecstatic for them.

They unload Lewis, and upgrade their perimeter wings altogether. And we might actually get to see shades of the old Gilbert Arenas/Hibachi with this new change of scenery.

This. I like this deal for Phoenix because they get a real center who is already arguably among the top-four centers in the West. Unloading Turkoglu is always nice, too. Love it for the Magic, because Orlando is the perfect team for Arenas.

It doesn't really have anything at all to do with the Lakers (even with the Suns involved, they were never a threat to us this season, and even making the Playoffs before this deal was unlikely), but it's a pretty significant deal, regardless.

[Penberthy]

Awesome trade for the Magic. I'm ecstatic for them.

They unload Lewis, and upgrade their perimeter wings altogether. And we might actually get to see shades of the old Gilbert Arenas/Hibachi with this new change of scenery.

This. I like this deal for Phoenix because they get a real center who is already arguably among the top-four centers in the West. Unloading Turkoglu is always nice, too. Love it for the Magic, because Orlando is the perfect team for Arenas.

It doesn't really have anything at all to do with the Lakers (even with the Suns involved, they were never a threat to us this season, and even making the Playoffs before this deal was unlikely), but it's a pretty significant deal, regardless.

I actually think this could take PHX from not making the playoffs to the 4/5 seed.

Nash/Dragic
Vince/Dudley
Hill/Peitrus/Childress
Fry/Warrick
Gortat/Lopez

If they start Gortat and maybe give him some mins at the 4 as well, I think nash could turn him into a BEAST.

The roster is starting to look as old as our though (without the hall of famers)

[DEEP3CL]

The Orlando guys are sold on Bass at the 4, but I'm not he's not a real gritty defender. They definitely have more offensive fire power now, and can probably stretch the floor much better than before. Now with Arenas, Richardson, Reddick and Turk they got more than enough deep threats to keep the aggressive double off Howard.

But defensive rebounding, foul trouble for Howard and no depth at the 4 and 5 spots will be the Magic undoing. In the playoffs is where this will rear it's head. The Magic were stuck on needing a guy to close games, Vince wasn't doing it Gil may do it but it's uncertain at this point.

[Slava]

I'd bet Van Gundy starts Turk at the 4.

Nelson/Arenas/Rich/Turk/D12
Duhon/Redick/QRich/Bass/Clark

Is probably how they'll line up.

[MoLakers]

I'd bet Van Gundy starts Turk at the 4.

Nelson/Arenas/Rich/Turk/D12
Duhon/Redick/QRich/Bass/Clark

Is probably how they'll line up.

even right now they wont line up like that.. arenas has volunteered to come off the bench. and we already know turk at the 4 was a failed experiment. even when turk played in orlando, he was the 3. so its gonna be most likely nelson, jrich, turk, bass, dwight.

they have a need at back up center, and they dont need a superstar. gortat was a luxury, and orlando knew they could use him as a trading chip seeing as though so many teams went after him, and dallas even signed him to an offer sheet. im not gonna suggest, or wait maybe ill try. seeing as sacramento sucks, and they have like 14 c/pf's, i say orlando could trade for one of em. I really like this trade for orlando. its gonna be exciting to see them play. i was so tired of seeing rashard lewis.

[SashAlex]

I don't know what the Magic were thinking, but what I know is that Dwight is prone to foul troubles, especially in the playoffs where everyone will put pressure on him. So who's gonna play when Dwight will spend a lot more time on the bench than expected ?

Everyone will try to put Howard in foul trouble, and then the Magic will become a pure perimeter team, with 0,00000 inside presence. Turkoglu @ 4, against KG, a very undersized mismatch. Garnett will kill him. The same we can say about Bosh in case they meet deep in the playoffs. I'm not bringing here our front-court.

The Magic didn't improve a bit by making this trade. They're the same perimeter team with only Howard inside, and right now no back-up in case he gets either injured or in foul trouble. I don't see a logic in their strategy because by only shooting they won't even make it to the NBA Finals. Dwight alone won't be enough, as they've felt it for the past 2 seasons.

[Optms]

I'd bet Van Gundy starts Turk at the 4.

Nelson/Arenas/Rich/Turk/D12
Duhon/Redick/QRich/Bass/Clark

Is probably how they'll line up.

even right now they wont line up like that.. arenas has volunteered to come off the bench. and we already know turk at the 4 was a failed experiment. even when turk played in orlando, he was the 3. so its gonna be most likely nelson, jrich, turk, bass, dwight.

Orlando would be foolish to put Arenas on the bench. Outside of Howard, he's now their biggest talent on the floor and he very much is capable of creating for himself and others. They didn't necessarily have that before, now they do. This will be a huge fail on Orlando's part if they choose to pin him as the sixth man. He'll be most effective in his natural starting role, imo.

Turk at the 4 is probably what I would expect from Gundy, though.

[Gek]

Interesting that the Wiz trade away a PG when Wall's out with injury...for a tweener who is grossly overpaid.

Arenas was a huge thorn in their side.

[LApwnd]

i think Orl only issue with this trade is obviously Howards backup, they need one now, agreed with others he is prone to getting into foul trouble but outside of that they are solid, Carter is Mr. Invisible in the playoffs as well as Lewis as of last season. We know 1st hand J-Rich shows up big in the playoffs, Hedo could play the Point Foward again. This could be pretty solid for them but I have a feeling Orl is all in this season, if they dont win it this year or get back to the finals this trade is going to blow up on them.

[crazyeights]

Interesting that the Wiz trade away a PG when Wall's out with injury...for a tweener who is grossly overpaid.

Arenas was a huge thorn in their side.

Sure, but I can't see how trading one albatross contract for another is a good idea. Couldn't they have broken that up into pieces?

Okay so Arenas was a head case and they needed a change...great. But their problem was they had a huge logjam of talent at PG. Wall/Arenas/Kirk.

So their answer is to trade for a 3-point shooting PF?

This trade didn't make sense to me before and I COMPLETELY forgot about Blatche. There's Yi to consider as well.

So does that mean Lewis is going to play SF? They already have Josh Howard and Al Thorton. I just can't wrap my brain around it. I know they're in the tank now, so the pieces aren't supposed to go together....maybe they feel that Lewis is a better contract because it's shorter or that they aren't going to resign Josh Howard.

They have some talented guys on that team...it just doesn't amount to much.

[tugs]

nice deal for Orlando.they got 3 capable playmakers, and more importantly, they're CLUTCH. the 4 spot is a BIG problem though. I'm foreseeing another separate deal to acquire additional big men.

[Minhee]

Easily better. I love this. Anything to F over LeBron and the Heat. Haha.

Trust me Ty that deal won't make the Heat shiver one bit, they still lack a 4. Book it they won't make it to the conference final.

I totally agree, i honestly think Lebron, Wade and Bosh laughed hard when they learned of this trade. They know Orlando is not to be taken seriously and they know they are not on Boston or Miami's level which got them this trade. Arenas and Nelson will want to dominant the ball, they definitely got a lot better offensively and Arenas is also more clutch, but they only have two true bigs on that team. If D12 is in foul trouble watch out, this team will be a run and gun chucking team that will win games by running their opponent out of the gym, in the playoffs Lebron and Co down in South Beach will murder these clowns.

[H00PDREAMS]

I am glad Arenas got out of there. Never understood why the CAVS or Knicks didn't try to get him just very odd. But glad the Magic picked him up maybe we he will start.

Jameer being the 6th man aint so bad. He strengthens the already deep bench.

I've been reading on the nets that the Magic ARE targeting another BIG... So stay tuned I guess. Zubek is still out there LOL!

[RHBullsFan]

Looking like:
Nelson/Arenas/Jason Williams/Chris Duhon
Richardson/Redick
Turk/Quentin Richardson
Bass/Ryan Anderson
Dwight/scrub Malik Allel/dleaguer Daniel Orton

Arenas will likely come off the bench but play 35 minutes, including some combo guard play with Jameer. Turk can play point forward. Very versatile team IMO, very clutch too. We upgrade effort level (Vince and Shard were uninspired lazy and heartless) and now have guys that can put the ball on the floor and create their own shot or for others.

Team has talked about acquiring another big, which Orlando desperately needs. Looking at Turiaf from what I hear. Any insight to his play?

We're sold on Bass at the starting 4 and Anderson as his backup allows for the stretch 4. He is thought of as a younger Rashard without the contract.

[LApwnd]

Looking like:
Nelson/Arenas/Jason Williams/Chris Duhon
Richardson/Redick
Turk/Quentin Richardson
Bass/Ryan Anderson
Dwight/scrub Malik Allel/dleaguer Daniel Orton

Arenas will likely come off the bench but play 35 minutes, including some combo guard play with Jameer. Turk can play point forward. Very versatile team IMO, very clutch too. We upgrade effort level (Vince and Shard were uninspired lazy and heartless) and now have guys that can put the ball on the floor and create their own shot or for others.

Team has talked about acquiring another big, which Orlando desperately needs. Looking at Turiaf from what I hear. Any insight to his play?

We're sold on Bass at the starting 4 and Anderson as his backup allows for the stretch 4. He is thought of as a younger Rashard without the contract.

Turiaf will do fine against other 4's but he got utterly destoryed in our bos series in 08, whether it was KG (obviously) or Perkins who forced him into shooting jumpers. But I think he will be an adequate backup for 4/5 spot just dont play him to much, he's pretty injury prone ever since he went over to GSW.