[Camelo Thread] - Update: He's Pushing for NYK! Part 5

[stuporman]

I guess this much is known. Net's have the top offer and the two teams have likely agreed on the framework of a deal but the reason the trigger hasn't been pulled is because it's dependent on Melo signing the extension. Deal hasn't been done so that tells you Melo isn't on board. Will he ever in a moment of weakness agree to sign so the teams make the rush bang bang deal done get his name on the contract? Cause that is exactly how it would be the way it would have to go down and then he has years of buyers remorse as the team struggles to be the 8th seed every year.

The Nugs are not sending him to the Knicks evar! The Knicks would have to come up with an offer that blows NJ out of the water even if Melo never agreed to the deal to justify the value in the NJ offer. That's the measuring stick they will use for NY and only NY. Beat that or beat the bushes is going to be their attitude towards the Knicks.

The Nugs will entertain lesser offers from rental franchises than they would from the Knicks and tell everyone they like those players and packages better even though it's not true. Pure spite and not wanting to give in to Melo will be their only reasoning even if they don't come right out and say it. Knicks fans really have to come to grips that their is zero chance he gets traded to the Knicks and the only way Melo comes is if he comes as a FA this summer.

That's the way it is. Leave the trade checker alone it's not gonna happen. It could be a 3 team, 4 team I don't care if it's a 30 team trade if the end result is Melo to the Knicks the Nuggets will not send him to NY unless they give up more than what the Nets are offering... It could be the exact package of players and picks on the table from the Nets that a hypothetical 30 team trade would get them but would want one more pick if it means Melo to NY.

That's their mindset right now and I see no reason why they'd change it for any reason so Knick fans need to deal with it. He's not coming by trade. If Walsh somehow pulls it off by trade he should get a statue in front of the garden with him dunking the ball on 29 other GMs. But he also shouldn't get any flack for not being able to jedi mindtrick the Denver franchise into giving up their star player to go where he wants to go. He really never had a shot anymore to make a deal work after that infamous toast, that's just the way it is.

Will Melo blink, sign and screw himself for the next 3-4 years in NJ? Will he risk losing money on a contract to give himself the ultimate control over his future? Will he allow himself to opportunity to fulfill his desire to play in NY with a fellow star player giving himself the chance to contend for a title in the most visible market in the world?

We'll see.....

[Red Vines]

You know maybe Melo really doesn't want to play this fast pace style, it's not like he's known to be in the greatest shape or as a guy who likes to push the ball. I can see him hesitating about playing in this system when he's more laid back.

[captain subtext]

You know maybe Melo really doesn't want to play this fast pace style, it's not like he's known to be in the greatest shape or as a guy who likes to push the ball. I can see him hesitating about playing in this system when he's more laid back.

I'm guessing all he sees is New York fame and all the shots he wants to take without any conscience or restrain. He'll love D'Antoni.

[delvec19]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

[AllanHoustonFan]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

Side note: Jody sucks at playing devil's advocate

[moocow007]

Pedophile is gonna be on Mac and Tierney in 40 mins

This should be good for a laugh.

[Conrad420]

It is just the simple fact that NJ assets are better than ours at this point and Denver still has a good shot for a nice playoff run. If Melo wants to come to NY ASAP, he needs to tank.

What assets? 5 draft picks that could be bums or busts.

Derrick Favors who is riding the overrated train. Probably will never be a star.

Troy Murphy an expiring contract. Has no value whatsoever.


Our offer:

Wilson Chandler who is a boarderline all star in a years time.

Gallo another talent with alot of room to grow.

Douglas who is a perfect fit to the Karl system.

Randolph another talent with room to grow. Denver just needs to acquire a brain for him.

How is that better than NJ's offer?

what do you mean what assests? the stuff you listed that the Nets have as assests are WAY more valuable then what the knicks got.

[K_ick_God]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

I can understand the sentiment, but I disagree. Melo is not good enough to give up the whole team for him. Amar'e and Melo sounds great but they wouldn't form a great team by themselves.

[sol537]

'Melo is not going to let a rookie GM push him around. He's going to force his way to NY at the deadline or in the off-season. 'Melo isn't going to waiver. He's not a punk like Lebron.

[captain subtext]

Pedophile is gonna be on Mac and Tierney in 40 mins

This should be good for a laugh.

Okay, if a Mod thinks it's funny I'm guessing my report of that post will not be dealt with.

[AllanHoustonFan]

Pedophile is gonna be on Mac and Tierney in 40 mins

This should be good for a laugh.

Okay, if a Mod thinks it's funny I'm guessing my report of that post will not be dealt with.

[moocow007]

You know maybe Melo really doesn't want to play this fast pace style, it's not like he's known to be in the greatest shape or as a guy who likes to push the ball. I can see him hesitating about playing in this system when he's more laid back.

? Denver has been among the top scoring teams in the NBA for years. That's because their emphasis on outscoring the opposing teams to win games. Their pace is also uptempo and obviously Anthony has shown he can do real well in it. He'd right at home here.

In fact he would be more fish out of water in NJ where Avery Johnson stresses more on defense and where their pace has been a crawl all season.

[captain subtext]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

I can understand the sentiment, but I disagree. Melo is not good enough to give up the whole team for him. Amar'e and Melo sounds great but they wouldn't form a great team by themselves.

And you can't, I repeat you CANNOT have your best two players being sucky defenders and expect to win anything. All the Champions had their big names lead the way when it comes to defense.

[moocow007]

Pedophile is gonna be on Mac and Tierney in 40 mins

This should be good for a laugh.

Okay, if a Mod thinks it's funny I'm guessing my report of that post will not be dealt with.

The comment is based on a rather funny "To Catch a Predator" animated gif spoofthat was posted some time back showing Wojina in the forefront and Chris Hansen (Dateline NBC) peaking out at him in the background. It's not out of thin air so don't get too worked up about it.

No, no one believes that Wojina is a pedophile.

[moocow007]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

I can understand the sentiment, but I disagree. Melo is not good enough to give up the whole team for him. Amar'e and Melo sounds great but they wouldn't form a great team by themselves.

And you can't, I repeat you CANNOT have your best two players being sucky defenders and expect to win anything. All the Champions had their big names lead the way when it comes to defense.

And the Knicks team as is can win something? This team hasn't arrived at anything yet. Also at the end of the day, this team will win or lose by offense. So unless you have a plan to get rid of D'Antoni (which I've never been 100% for from the start), they need to make sure that offensively they are unstoppable (or more unstoppable). And adding one of the most dominant and diverse offensive players in the NBA (Melo) to Stoudemire WOULD make this team more unstoppable than they are.

And at the end of the day, if things don't work out...and they go in a different direction...dude...you can get A LOT more back if you have to trade Carmelo Anthony fresh off of a D'Antoni SSOL stint than anything they have right now.

[Starksfor3]

No, no one believes that Wojina is a pedophile.

Uhhhhh...

[TrueWarrior]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

I can understand the sentiment, but I disagree. Melo is not good enough to give up the whole team for him. Amar'e and Melo sounds great but they wouldn't form a great team by themselves.

This.

Ya know if you take Odom, Artest, Ariza, Bynum, Barnes, Shannon Brown, Steve Blake, etc off the Lakers and are just left with Kobe/Gasol and scrubs do people think they come close to a championship? I dont, and they are both better than Melo/Amare in my eyes. The players I listed may not be perennial All Stars but the Lakers dont sniff a ring without them. They are more than just "role players". You cant just find these guys on the scrap heap. I would compare guys like Gallo, Chandler, and Fields to those guys with Randolph potentially joining the party. We'll need TOP NOTCH DEPTH with Melo, Amare, and Felton. We arent going anywhere with them three and some D Leaguers or over the hill bums.

So yes while I would love to get Melo he is NOT worth gutting the team for. If hes not an impatient selfish turd nugget he will be ours in July. Denver aint trading him to us. Get that through some of your skulls!!!

[Jay10]

lol@ BT thinking Jay Z can deliver carmelo to the Nets. People should really take a look at the documentary The Blackout.

[Pharmcat]

BT making some really good points here. We gotta trade whoever it takes to get Melo here. I really don't even care anymore, we'll fill in the pieces somehow. Melo and Amare = a force to be reckoned with. Plain and simple.

I can understand the sentiment, but I disagree. Melo is not good enough to give up the whole team for him. Amar'e and Melo sounds great but they wouldn't form a great team by themselves.

This.

Ya know if you take Odom, Artest, Ariza, Bynum, Barnes, Shannon Brown, Steve Blake, etc off the Lakers and are just left with Kobe/Gasol and scrubs do people think they come close to a championship? I dont, and they are both better than Melo/Amare in my eyes. The players I listed may not be perennial All Stars but the Lakers dont sniff a ring without them. They are more than just "role players". You cant just find these guys on the scrap heap. I would compare guys like Gallo, Chandler, and Fields to those guys with Randolph potentially joining the party. We'll need TOP NOTCH DEPTH with Melo, Amare, and Felton. We arent going anywhere with them three and some D Leaguers or over the hill bums.

So yes while I would love to get Melo he is NOT worth gutting the team for. If hes not an impatient selfish turd nugget he will be ours in July. Denver aint trading him to us. Get that through some of your skulls!!!

stars first
depth 2nd

simple concept

[Starksfor3]

lol@ BT thinking Jay Z can deliver carmelo to the Nets. People should really take a look at the documentary The Blackout.

Here we go again. Does Jay-Z even attend the Nets' games?