Official Trade Thread XIV: 6/14/10 - 12/22/10

[507Mack]

WTF people?

Why are we just giving away Blatche?

Because it's fun!

That, or maybe because it's Christmas

Seriously. There is no evidence at all that Blatche is on the trading block. It's not like Shart was brought in to "take his place". He has one lousy quarter in a bad loss to Miami, and all of a sudden people are consumed with trading him away. Makes no sense at all.

[KillbertArenas]

Seriously. There is no evidence at all that Blatche is on the trading block. It's not like Shart was brought in to "take his place". He has one lousy quarter in a bad loss to Miami, and all of a sudden people are consumed with trading him away. Makes no sense at all.

Seriously you are the best poster on here...

99% of the other guys, here write overly long essays just to prove how bias they are towards a certain player...

[tontoz]

Howard isn't a SG. If Howard could play the 2, he'd have done so in Dallas and they wouldn't have looked to trade him for Butler (whom they thought could play the 2 as well). Nick Young is right now a better player at SG than Josh Howard.

If Young goes back to coming off the bench, it'll only be after Wall comes back. And even then, I'm not so sure that Flip would start Hinrich given the way Young is playing.

+1

No way Young goes back to the bench with Gil gone. When Wall comes back Hinrich will clearly be the backup 1/2.

[willbcocks]

My guess is Hudson will be back and Gee will be cut.

EG is very predictable, though I assume most GM's would have done the same thing.

[sfam]

i cant shake the feeling that blatche is the next player out the door and i think we're stuck with grunfeld.

I don't get that vibe at all. I get the feeling that Flip really likes Blatche. He certainly plays Blatche as much as possibly can. Blatche averages 35 minutes a game which is a lot for a big man, and Blatche has been hobbled. Heck, Flip has played him 40+ minutes in 3 of the last 4 games. I think Blatche is the only big man on the roster that Flip trusts. I think they'd trade McGee before Blatche.

I honestly will be amazed if EG is around come this time next year. Isn't his contract up at the end of this year? If so, I'd love to be a fly on the wall on that yearly performance appraisal meeting. Who wouldn't want to read EG's crib notes for why he did such a great job!

[LyricalRico]

i cant shake the feeling that blatche is the next player out the door

A couple guys at my job this morning echoed the same sentiment. They think that the Wizards are going to showcase him and deal him. They don't have any proof, just their feeling.

[AceDegenerate]

I honestly will be amazed if EG is around come this time next year. Isn't his contract up at the end of this year? If so, I'd love to be a fly on the wall on that yearly performance appraisal meeting. Who wouldn't want to read EG's crib notes for why he did such a great job!

<Rico Reply>

LOLZ - smiley face.

[Ruzious]

i cant shake the feeling that blatche is the next player out the door

A couple guys at my job this morning echoed the same sentiment. They think that the Wizards are going to showcase him and deal him. They don't have any proof, just their feeling.

I hope the Wiz are thinking that Lewis can be somewhat of a mentor for Blatche and help in his maturation. I'd much rather see Blatche succeed here than trade him for what he's worth now.

[tontoz]

I hope the Wiz are thinking that Lewis can be somewhat of a mentor for Blatche and help in his maturation. I'd much rather see Blatche succeed here than trade him for what he's worth now.

If there is one thing that Rashard does better than anyone on the team, it is post scoring. He was a very tough cover in the post when he was with Seatle. Hopefully he can give the young guys some good advice on post play.

[dobrojim]

My guess is Hudson will be back and Gee will be cut.

EG is very predictable, though I assume most GM's would have done the same thing.

Actually I thought maybe the guy to be cut would have been Hamedy.
I wonder what the relative financial considerations were.

Gee was considered decent enough to be put out as a starter.
Hamedy is having difficulty even getting garbage minutes.

[dobrojim]

i cant shake the feeling that blatche is the next player out the door

A couple guys at my job this morning echoed the same sentiment. They think that the Wizards are going to showcase him and deal him. They don't have any proof, just their feeling.

I hope the Wiz are thinking that Lewis can be somewhat of a mentor for Blatche and help in his maturation. I'd much rather see Blatche succeed here than trade him for what he's worth now.

given Ted's avowed philosophy, I think they got it wrong. Showcase Lewis and
find a way to unload his mega-deal.

[Kanyewest]

i cant shake the feeling that blatche is the next player out the door

A couple guys at my job this morning echoed the same sentiment. They think that the Wizards are going to showcase him and deal him. They don't have any proof, just their feeling.

I doubt Blatche moves in the short term. They just extended Blatche and his contract his pretty reasonable given his production.

[eitanr]

The team may like to move Blatche, but it is too risky too without a legitimate post presence on the roster. It may make more sense to wait until draft day and hope to snag someone like Jared Sullinger out of Ohio State. Jared would immensley improve the team's defensive rebounding rate and could mean a move of Blatche.

Right now though Washington would need another deal somehow in place if they want to move Blatche, maybe test out Landry from Sacramento?

[gesa2]

Landry wouldn't be a bad choice, and would give us a low post scoring option. But it wouldn't exactly help our interior D to lose Blatche's length.

[Ruzious]

A couple guys at my job this morning echoed the same sentiment. They think that the Wizards are going to showcase him and deal him. They don't have any proof, just their feeling.

I hope the Wiz are thinking that Lewis can be somewhat of a mentor for Blatche and help in his maturation. I'd much rather see Blatche succeed here than trade him for what he's worth now.

given Ted's avowed philosophy, I think they got it wrong. Showcase Lewis and
find a way to unload his mega-deal.

Maybe Orlando will want him back at the trade deadline.

[mhd]

Should we consider using AlYi (Thorton+Yi) to get a contract that expires next year? Camby would be a perfect fit as a vet big man, but the only way that fits the TC would be Thorton+Yi+Martin+Hudson+NDayie+Neck. I'm sure other teams would be willing to offer better expiring packages than that.

[Joe_Wiz]

Being a fan of a particular team is for me, and I suspect for many others, a largely non-rational (which is not necessarily to say irrational) decision. I can't confidently predict what will increase or decrease my support for this team, but I can say this: I don't regard the franchise as having any claim to my loyalty; my status as a fan of the team is largely derivative open my attachment to people associated with it -- primarily the players. Now I can and have remained a fan of the team throughout the considerable roster changes that have occurred over the last 15-20 years, but there may be a limit to how much change I can put up with how fast.

Blatche is not only (one of?) the longest tenured Wizard(s) still on the team, he is also one of our best players, and one that we have watched develop from a very raw 2nd round draft pick to become a fairly exciting and impressively versatile player . . . who is still quite young. The treatment of and ultimate trade of Arenas has the potential to divide my loyalty between Orlando and Washington. Trading away Blatche, especially before I've had enough time to get attached to Wall and others, has the potential to drive me away entirely.

[TGW]

Landry wouldn't be a bad choice, and would give us a low post scoring option. But it wouldn't exactly help our interior D to lose Blatche's length.

Blatche's length would actually matter if he actually used it.

[Hoopalotta]

A Shart trade that we shouldn't and wouldn't do has occurred, but the technician in me has to post it anyway, even though I'd advocate against it:

Was Out / Mil In: R. Lewis & K. Hinrich
Mil Out / WAS In: M. Redd & C. Maggete

Why (not) for us: Huge financial savings next year, but we might as well start calling Flip "Patton" with how hideously tanky we'd be. It doesn't really clear up much, if any, 2012 cap space and we're not likely to sign a free agent next year, so the main good point would be if there was a BOYD to be had and if we want a REALLY high pick this next summer. It's a terrible move culturally, so there's developmental risks.

Why for the Venison: They save their season and improve the chemistry, but push the 2012 payroll up towards what would have been the tax line with the new CBA coming in. That's really risky, but Jennings has a broken foot and probably misses a lot longer than that 4-6 week window mentioned and their locker room is supposed to be having big problems. This takes them to the playoffs.

I'd imagine there are those here who would take that.

[nate33]

A Shart trade that we shouldn't and wouldn't do has occurred, but the technician in me has to post it anyway, even though I'd advocate against it:

Was Out / Mil In: R. Lewis & K. Hinrich
Mil Out / WAS In: M. Redd & C. Maggete

Why (not) for us: Huge financial savings next year, but we might as well start calling Flip "Patton" with how hideously tanky we'd be. It doesn't really clear up much, if any, 2012 cap space and we're not likely to sign a free agent next year, so the main good point would be if there was a BOYD to be had and if we want a REALLY high pick this next summer. It's a terrible move culturally, so there's developmental risks.

Why for the Venison: They save their season and improve the chemistry, but push the 2012 payroll up towards what would have been the tax line with the new CBA coming in. That's really risky, but Jennings has a broken foot and probably misses a lot longer than that 4-6 week window mentioned and their locker room is supposed to be having big problems. This takes them to the playoffs.

I'd imagine there are those here who would take that.

I wouldn't do it. I'm really hoping that the team we have now might actually have that elusive quality known as chemistry. Yes, our frontcourt is still young and mistake prone, and we lack an established superstar, but I think we fit together well. Rashard is a catch-and-shoot SF and he has a post up game. Howard and Hinrich are nice glue players. Armstrong is coming into his own as a respectable backup C.

I'm expecting to see some more wins from here on out. (I'm not saying we're good or anything, just not embarrassingly bad.) I don't want to screw that up by adding team-killer Maggette.