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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#181 » by dbodner » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:52 pm

Foshan wrote:^hasn't iggy been shooting really well recently when spotting up?


1.170 points per possessions in catch and shoot situations, which is more efficient than 80% of the league. Last year he was at 1.092, which was more efficient than 78% of the league.

He's not nearly as bad of a catch and shoot player as people make him out to be, his main problem was shooting off the dribble, which he's cut back on this year as he's not asked to do as much.
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Post#182 » by SJSF » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:23 pm

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Foshan wrote:^hasn't iggy been shooting really well recently when spotting up?


1.170 points per possessions in catch and shoot situations, which is more efficient than 80% of the league. Last year he was at 1.092, which was more efficient than 78% of the league.

He's not nearly as bad of a catch and shoot player as people make him out to be, his main problem was shooting off the dribble, which he's cut back on this year as he's not asked to do as much.



when you say catch and shoot? What range is he shooting from? I don't care if he can catch and dunk or get points off of transition. What is he shooting from 15-23 feet? Something that is sort of importnat for a 6'6 wingman.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#183 » by sixerswillrule » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:47 pm

You need to take off the 'Iguodala is the devil' goggles when you watch the games. If you're actually watching the games, that is. It's not hard to see him spot up and make jumpshots, as he has been doing lately. I really don't see how it's going unnoticed.

And oh yeah, pretty much everyone would rather get rid of Brand than Iguodala...
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Post#184 » by PhillyFan » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:40 pm

^ I think he's only been playing NBA 2k.

Sixers is a very frustrating team to play with in that game I must agree.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#185 » by SJSF » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:47 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:You need to take off the 'Iguodala is the devil' goggles when you watch the games. If you're actually watching the games, that is. It's not hard to see him spot up and make jumpshots, as he has been doing lately. I really don't see how it's going unnoticed.

And oh yeah, pretty much everyone would rather get rid of Brand than Iguodala...



No one thinks Iggy is the devil. He is actually shooting the ball better. But!!!!!! He isn't worth 13-15m a year. We have Evan Turner right behind him. And this team would be better if we got better value for our money as a team.

And for Brand. You take Brand away from this team. It will be far more damaging then losing Iggy. Brand is this teams best inside rebounder, shot blocker, and scorer. And he is shooting over 50.0% from the field. Iggy can be replaced with Evan Tuner/Thad. Sure Iggy is better then ET. But in time ET will be better. He needs a chance to play. Only on the Sixers do we sit our 2nd overall pick on the bench.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#186 » by dbodner » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:52 pm

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Foshan wrote:^hasn't iggy been shooting really well recently when spotting up?


1.170 points per possessions in catch and shoot situations, which is more efficient than 80% of the league. Last year he was at 1.092, which was more efficient than 78% of the league.

He's not nearly as bad of a catch and shoot player as people make him out to be, his main problem was shooting off the dribble, which he's cut back on this year as he's not asked to do as much.



when you say catch and shoot? What range is he shooting from? I don't care if he can catch and dunk or get points off of transition. What is he shooting from 15-23 feet? Something that is sort of importnat for a 6'6 wingman.


Catch and shoot. They're jumpers, not dunks. These are in half-court situations, not transition. There's no limit on the range, but you don't get that many catch and shoot jumpers from inside 10 feet.
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Post#187 » by PhillyFan » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:44 am

^ dbodner, the guy is clearly clueless about basketball. Just ignore him, he provides no value to any of the discussions.
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Post#188 » by steveb21 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:50 pm

According to the Wiretap Igoudala may be NYK's plan B if they don't get Carmello. The article says they would give us Curry and another player. Do they think we're really that stupid?

Here are my issues with this: Unless that other player is Amare is there anyone on that roster that would improve our team? Also, why would we give away our marquee player for a salary dump and improve a divisional rival? I'm not sold on Gallo/Anthony and wouldn't consider them unless draft picks were also coming our way.

Bottom line is if Denver doesn't want their garbage for Carmello then why should we even consider it for Igoudala? If we're going to deal him then I'm sure Thorn can find better deals elsewhere.
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Post#189 » by Skates » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:16 pm

steveb21 wrote:According to the Wiretap Igoudala may be NYK's plan B if they don't get Carmello. The article says they would give us Curry and another player. Do they think we're really that stupid?

Here are my issues with this: Unless that other player is Amare is there anyone on that roster that would improve our team? Also, why would we give away our marquee player for a salary dump and improve a divisional rival? I'm not sold on Gallo/Anthony and wouldn't consider them unless draft picks were also coming our way.

Bottom line is if Denver doesn't want their garbage for Carmello then why should we even consider it for Igoudala? If we're going to deal him then I'm sure Thorn can find better deals elsewhere.


Typical NYK/New York media arrogance. It just gets funnier each time some player uses and abuses them then goes somewhere else. Just wait until those microfracture reapired knees of Amare blowout. Walsh is nearly as bad of a GM as Isiah was.
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Post#190 » by PhillyRocks1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:33 pm

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sixerswillrule wrote:You need to take off the 'Iguodala is the devil' goggles when you watch the games. If you're actually watching the games, that is. It's not hard to see him spot up and make jumpshots, as he has been doing lately. I really don't see how it's going unnoticed.

And oh yeah, pretty much everyone would rather get rid of Brand than Iguodala...



No one thinks Iggy is the devil. He is actually shooting the ball better. But!!!!!! He isn't worth 13-15m a year. We have Evan Turner right behind him. And this team would be better if we got better value for our money as a team.

And for Brand. You take Brand away from this team. It will be far more damaging then losing Iggy. Brand is this teams best inside rebounder, shot blocker, and scorer. And he is shooting over 50.0% from the field. Iggy can be replaced with Evan Tuner/Thad. Sure Iggy is better then ET. But in time ET will be better. He needs a chance to play. Only on the Sixers do we sit our 2nd overall pick on the bench.

You must really be out of touch. I take it you haven't seen NBA salaries. He isn't even in the top 30.
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Post#191 » by Point-God » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:07 pm

I think the people who believe that Iguodala is overpaid need to look at the salaries of all NBA players as good or better than Iguodala who are on their 2nd or greater contract that was signed in the last 3 years. For those that are making less than Iguodala, add up the average difference between their salary and Iguodala's. Post up that number then ask yourself what sort of basketball player could be signed as a free agent for that same amount. I guarantee that amount is well below MLE and is probably about the same as the biannual exception.
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Post#192 » by SJSF » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:25 pm

There are many players in the NBA that are grossly overpaid. Rashard Lewis, VInce Carter, Brand and many others. Doesn't mean its right to compare Iggy and say well he isn't overpaid. This team has no outside shooting at the SG position that is consistent. And we need a big man to go along wth Hawes who is doing better of late. One position where we are stocked with depth is SF/SG. THe only tradeable player we could get a good return on is Iggy. We lost by 40 points last night with him playing. We could have lost by 40 points without him. I am not all caught up with the fools gold of this team. We are right back where we were a few years ago. A 7th/8th seed type. And if you think having your 2 highest paid players being Brand and Iggy are going to make u a contender, then you are clueless( PhillyFan). This team needs a few changes. And the only tradeable assets we have are Iggy and Lou.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#193 » by PhillyFan » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:25 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:You must really be out of touch. I take it you haven't seen NBA salaries. He isn't even in the top 30.


Not only with basketball, but out of touch with reality and logic as well :lol:
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Post#194 » by freshie2 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:02 pm

Iguodala and Songalia for Curry/Randolph/Gallinari would have some appeal to me. Long shooter in Gallinari, long/athletic 3-4 in Randolph, and Curry's $$'s off the books moving forward. Randolph has to have some mental blocks b/c his overall skill set/length is too good not to see the floor otherwise. Would be a nice defensive option against some longer more athletic players. Gallinari is the spot up shooter from the SF spot we've been talking about needing with Jrue/Turner.
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Post#195 » by sixerswillrule » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:19 pm

Yes, that would be a great trade for us. Gallinari alone would be worth consideration, but with Randolph in there as well we couldn't turn that down. And I'm one of Iguodala's biggest fans so that's saying something.
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Post#196 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:33 pm

I would do that deal as well. It would allow Turner to start at the two again, and Randolph would add some depth in the frontcourt for us as well. I'm really high on Gallinari and his game while some others are not. I realize he's not a defensive stopper but he is a shooter and I think Evan Turner is or someday will be just as good of a defender as Iguodala is so I don't see how we would lose anything long term with this deal.
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Post#197 » by SJSF » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:45 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would do that deal as well. It would allow Turner to start at the two again, and Randolph would add some depth in the frontcourt for us as well. I'm really high on Gallinari and his game while some others are not. I realize he's not a defensive stopper but he is a shooter and I think Evan Turner is or someday will be just as good of a defender as Iguodala is so I don't see how we would lose anything long term with this deal.



Many do though. They would trade Evan Turner and keep Iggy.
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Post#198 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:57 am

SJSF wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would do that deal as well. It would allow Turner to start at the two again, and Randolph would add some depth in the frontcourt for us as well. I'm really high on Gallinari and his game while some others are not. I realize he's not a defensive stopper but he is a shooter and I think Evan Turner is or someday will be just as good of a defender as Iguodala is so I don't see how we would lose anything long term with this deal.



Many do though. They would trade Evan Turner and keep Iggy.


I'm not gonna argue with you about this.
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Post#199 » by Sixerlover » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:06 am

freshie2 wrote:Iguodala and Songalia for Curry/Randolph/Gallinari would have some appeal to me. Long shooter in Gallinari, long/athletic 3-4 in Randolph, and Curry's $$'s off the books moving forward. Randolph has to have some mental blocks b/c his overall skill set/length is too good not to see the floor otherwise. Would be a nice defensive option against some longer more athletic players. Gallinari is the spot up shooter from the SF spot we've been talking about needing with Jrue/Turner.

Randolph is a bum, and Curry is just expiring money.

So we're talking Gallo and some free $$ for Iguodala. And letting NY pair Iggy with Amare and Felton. Which is a pretty young effective 1-2-3 combo in D'Antoni's system.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#200 » by Foshan » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:09 am

^ agreed. Not a big fan of the deal, unless we can some how squeeze some extra incentive out of it.

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