I was in the locker room last night

[SherronShabazz]

This is what you should do next time you are in the locker room. Ask Thibs what is the deal with Bogans, what is he trying to prove? I just don't get it, it just feels he would stick to Bogans even if his job was on the line.

i'm not doing that lol

[BullsCroatia]

This is what you should do next time you are in the locker room. Ask Thibs what is the deal with Bogans, what is he trying to prove? I just don't get it, it just feels he would stick to Bogans even if his job was on the line.

i'm not doing that lol

Why?

[BJ43]

Maybe Bogans threatened him? He looks like he could be afraid of him? Or maybe he realises that he really doesn't need a 5th scorer to start games/halves, he needs someone who will make the safe plays so that we don't get off to too many bad starts? The fact remains the Bulls have the 3rd best record in the East, and I can't imagine they would have won any more games had Bogans not played his 10mins a game, whether he starts or comes off the bench for his 10mins is irrelevant in my opinion

Would I prefer those 10 mins went to someone like JJ? Sure, but it's not going to happen

[danzou]

Evan Turner is a DNP so far tonight...did your interview get him in trouble? tsk tsk

[kodo]

Doug obviously has no trust in Turner whatsoever.

Not sure how Philly is going to make those two work together.

[RedBulls23]

You got Turner a DNP-CD!!

[t-time]

I was thinking the same thing.

Something to put on the CV

[SherronShabazz]

This is what you should do next time you are in the locker room. Ask Thibs what is the deal with Bogans, what is he trying to prove? I just don't get it, it just feels he would stick to Bogans even if his job was on the line.

i'm not doing that lol

Why?

haha i just think that he doesn't want to rock the boat, bogans used to be a good defender, and he USED to be a better 3 point shooter than brewer. i think he also likes brewer's energy off the bench.

it's cliche but it matters who plays the most minutes and who finishes games.

[SherronShabazz]

Evan Turner is a DNP so far tonight...did your interview get him in trouble? tsk tsk

did he really not play? it might have lol. doug was mad i tell you. mad!

[Irregular]

Turner is really not that good.

They should have picked someone else.

[Ajosu]

This is what you should do next time you are in the locker room. Ask Thibs what is the deal with Bogans, what is he trying to prove? I just don't get it, it just feels he would stick to Bogans even if his job was on the line.

i'm not doing that lol

I get the feeling Thibs is well aware that people disagree with Bogans starting, and he just doesn't care. He's addressed this situation in the media before, and has basically said he's sticking with Bogans. It's clear as day that Bogans is not helping us out there one bit, but what can ya do? He's the coach, it's his call. I just hope this isn't some sort of stubborn backlash thing, and that Thib's is truly doing what he thinks is best for the team here. I have no idea why he wouldn't, but then again I have no idea why Bogans plays at all.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Honestly I'm sure Keith himself is probably wondering when he's going to get yanked as well.

[Ajosu]

haha i just think that he doesn't want to rock the boat, bogans used to be a good defender, and he USED to be a better 3 point shooter than brewer. i think he also likes brewer's energy off the bench.

it's cliche but it matters who plays the most minutes and who finishes games.

This all could be true, but I don't think anyone is calling for Bogans to come off the bench. People are saying don't play him at all! His minutes could easily be divided up between Brewer, Korver, and CJ...and they would still give that same energy off the bench, and would still be finishing games.

And I wonder which/whose boat he doesn't want to rock. The team's chemistry, or Bogans' ego? I'm definitely happy with Thibs overall, but I think virtually everyone would agree that Bogans should be riding the pine. Put him in the Kurt Thomas emergency role, right ahead of Scalabrine and JJ on the depth chart!

[rtblues]

Thibs is going to start his son, and that's that.
Oh, you didn't know? Ooops, my bad....

[Hangtime84]

This is what you should do next time you are in the locker room. Ask Thibs what is the deal with Bogans, what is he trying to prove? I just don't get it, it just feels he would stick to Bogans even if his job was on the line.

i'm not doing that lol

other reporters have might as well give it a try

[kyrv]

Given Sherron's newfound power (Evan Turner dnp ) , might be risking asking about Bogans. If it backfires Bogans could start closing games as well.

But seriously Thibs has been asked about it, I don't see the point of someone who goes there infrequently just poking the coach with a stick for a question he's already been asked and has answered.

[Future Coach]

As always thanks for the interview/article.


Regarding Turner, I think Doug Collins is right. He's a basketball player, why does he need to be limited to a "position" (the labeling of positions is incredibly overrated by the way). At Ohio St. Turner played everywhere on the court with the exception of posting up for extended periods of time, so he clearly has a good amount of versatility and capabilities. And him playing multiple "positions" is a good thing considering his size and ball handling ability as I imagine Collins envisions him playing a "Point-Forward" (uh oh an unconventional position) type role in the future, similar to what Iggy is doing now. It's only Turner's rookie season and there's no reason not to develop as much of his skills as possible, to not do so would be foolish considering the Sixers are far from winning a ring.

From watching the game the other night it became rather clear that one of Turner's biggest issues is aggressiveness, which is often displayed in going after rebounds. People say you should often let the game come to you, but that is really only in regards of knowing when to shoot and when to hit the open man. For all other parts of the game you have to make the game your own and go out and attempt to dominate where you can (Brewer's been exemplifying this decently recently). Turner just looks too timid out there when the ball is not in his hands, and that's not going to cut it. The hope is of course that his confidence will grow over time and that he will attempt to dominate games as he did at Ohio St.

And while you might have been partially responsible for him not playing the next game, it was probably all for the better as your questions and his answers were rather revealing that Turner isn't quite so confident in executing what Collins wants done on the court. And if a player isn't on the same page as the coach, especially a rookie, he shouldn't be put in a game against a team as polished as the Celtics.

And I love Scal's comment, I don't wear a coat, I like to face the cold head on. I'd be interested to see a USC reunion with Will Ferrell interviewing him with Will Ferrell in his Jackie Moon fit and Scal in his jersey with the headband (Bulls should really change that rule back for him, just for comedic value)... would be classic.


Thanks again for the interview, hope there's more to come

[kyrv]

Regarding Turner, I think Doug Collins is right. He's a basketball player, why does he need to be limited to a "position" (the labeling of positions is incredibly overrated by the way).

He's a struggling rookie that would perhaps be best served learning one job/role.

It's easier to learn one position than two. That's not overrated. In particular point and shooting guard are probably not interchangeable for most teams. If he was playing 2/3 or 4/5, I'd be on board, and well, Evan probably wouldn't be complaining about that.

Do you think it is easy to learn point guard in the NBA? Do you think it is simpler than other positions, same, or more complex?


P.S. Maybe in Doug's system it doesn't matter where Evan plays, he has the same roles and responsibilities (same things to learn). I just kind of doubt that, especially when the PG position is involved.

[SherronShabazz]

As always thanks for the interview/article.


Regarding Turner, I think Doug Collins is right. He's a basketball player, why does he need to be limited to a "position" (the labeling of positions is incredibly overrated by the way). At Ohio St. Turner played everywhere on the court with the exception of posting up for extended periods of time, so he clearly has a good amount of versatility and capabilities. And him playing multiple "positions" is a good thing considering his size and ball handling ability as I imagine Collins envisions him playing a "Point-Forward" (uh oh an unconventional position) type role in the future, similar to what Iggy is doing now. It's only Turner's rookie season and there's no reason not to develop as much of his skills as possible, to not do so would be foolish considering the Sixers are far from winning a ring.

From watching the game the other night it became rather clear that one of Turner's biggest issues is aggressiveness, which is often displayed in going after rebounds. People say you should often let the game come to you, but that is really only in regards of knowing when to shoot and when to hit the open man. For all other parts of the game you have to make the game your own and go out and attempt to dominate where you can (Brewer's been exemplifying this decently recently). Turner just looks too timid out there when the ball is not in his hands, and that's not going to cut it. The hope is of course that his confidence will grow over time and that he will attempt to dominate games as he did at Ohio St.

And while you might have been partially responsible for him not playing the next game, it was probably all for the better as your questions and his answers were rather revealing that Turner isn't quite so confident in executing what Collins wants done on the court. And if a player isn't on the same page as the coach, especially a rookie, he shouldn't be put in a game against a team as polished as the Celtics.

And I love Scal's comment, I don't wear a coat, I like to face the cold head on. I'd be interested to see a USC reunion with Will Ferrell interviewing him with Will Ferrell in his Jackie Moon fit and Scal in his jersey with the headband (Bulls should really change that rule back for him, just for comedic value)... would be classic.


Thanks again for the interview, hope there's more to come

ha. you are welcome. great points on turner.

[Future Coach]

Regarding Turner, I think Doug Collins is right. He's a basketball player, why does he need to be limited to a "position" (the labeling of positions is incredibly overrated by the way).

He's a struggling rookie that would perhaps be best served learning one job/role.

It's easier to learn one position than two. That's not overrated. In particular point and shooting guard are probably not interchangeable for most teams. If he was playing 2/3 or 4/5, I'd be on board, and well, Evan probably wouldn't be complaining about that.

Do you think it is easy to learn point guard in the NBA? Do you think it is simpler than other positions, same, or more complex?


P.S. Maybe in Doug's system it doesn't matter where Evan plays, he has the same roles and responsibilities (same things to learn). I just kind of doubt that, especially when the PG position is involved.

I agree that if a rookie is struggling a coach should often try to simplify things for him. But if they aren't winning a ring this season, and in fact are far from it, I like the idea of challenging young talent.

And you're right that being a primary distributor/playmaker (notice I'm not saying PG) is the toughest thing in basketball, at any level, but if the eventual hope is for him to play such a role why not sacrifice the present for the sake of the future?

And you're correct to bring up the system Collins is running, because that is the key to Turner being asked to be ready to play different roles. In Collins system there is no traditional PG, it's more whoever gets the outlet first between Holiday and Iggy brings the ball up and initiates the offense. Even out of dead-ball situation both Iggy and Holiday have been asked to bring the ball up the court, thus each playing multiple roles. I imagine that Collins would one day like for Turner to take over Iggy's spot on the roster and thus be able to play multiple roles. And when you have multiple players capable of playing multiple roles it can be quite a potent situation as it can make it easier to constantly apply pressure on the opposing defense by presenting different scenarios that they might not be prepared for.

I'm not saying things are going great for the Sixers, as the situation is certainly less than ideal, but as a team that is going to struggle regardless (they have zero interior defense), they might as well go through some growing pains now so that they actually grow into a real team in the future.

Plus, it's not like Turner has the shot to just stand and catch-and-shoot. He needs to get better at making decisions with the ball and he needs to get better at moving aggressively without the ball, things that a basketball player at any position needs to be good at.