Game Thread: Wizards vs. Bulls 12/22/10 7:00ET

[WizarDynasty]

we lost the game because no one could catch the ball deep in the post and draws easy fouls...cough no low post EG fire thread. Boozer constantly took teh ball close to basket, used his body to create space and get off easy shots, Blatche wants to prance around on the perimeter and get the ball poke away instead of punishing other post players with shoulder blows close to basket like boozer. same problem with mcgee. we have no low post force on offense.

[fishercob]

I don't know why at this point, but I am a still amazed at the whiny histrionics in these parts directed at our guys when they're struggling. If Blatche gets benched for having a really bad game, people crucify Flip for not letting him play through his mistakes, crushing his confidence etc.

So on the one hand, I appreciate that Blatche and Mcgee got the crap beat out of them by Boozer and Thomas. If that doesn't motivate them come summertime, then what will? But ultimately, this team isn't going anywhere with the two of them as out froncourt starters if they can't get stronger and more physical.

On the other hand....zero combined total minutes for the Beef Brothers irks me a bit. Thomas and Boozer finished with 11 fouls. I would have liked Booker and Kevon to get in there and mix it up with those guys a little bit. Seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

But it was Lewis' first game and Josh's third and we have to integrate those guys. I really appreciate Al's effort and competitiveness, but he's taking Booker's minutes and I hope Al plays less and less as the season progresses.

Anyhow, it was a good overall effort and certainly a teachable moment. We'll get better.

Oh, and Kirk is flat ballin Getting him and Seraphin for nothing seems like a decent trade to me.

[pancakes3]

i tire of all the "out of shape" talk. the man's been playing ball for 2-3 months now. if you can't get in shape playing hoops 6 days out of 7 for a quarter of a year, there just is no saving you.

blatche is in shape. he's just not mentally committed like (dare i say) nick young is? if Blatche steels his mind every game and thinks "ok. i'm going to go gorilla on these fools" he can. he just... doesn't. maybe because to him "it's just a game".

anyway, i thought the game was winnable last night and while YES, blatche had a horrible shooting night, it had more to do with 'shard being 0'fer from the 3 point line and picking up 5 fouls than it had to with AB.

good for mcgee racking up the defensive rebounds... but it doesn't have to be either or. he can offensively rebound AND defensively rebound right?

[LyricalRico]

Oh, and Kirk is flat ballin Getting him and Seraphin for nothing seems like a decent trade to me.

Hear that, avatar?

[queridiculo]

One more thing, what needs to happen for McGee to realize that an offensive rebound is not carte blanche to throw up ridiculous shots that have no prayer of making it? If I was flip I'd DNP him for one game every time he pulls one of those ridiculous moves.

[tontoz]

One more thing, what needs to happen for McGee to realize that an offensive rebound is not carte blanche to throw up ridiculous shots that have no prayer of making it? If I was flip I'd DNP him for one game every time he pulls one of those ridiculous moves.

You could almost see the wheels turning when he got that offensive rebound late. He actually looked like he was going to pass it back out and then said f this, I'm shooting and threw up a prayer.

[dobrojim]

good comments by a number of posters (ed, CCJ, MS.....)

disappointing to lose a winnable game against a quality
team at home especially when we've yet to win on the
road.

We should have gone after their players in foul trouble
more and earlier. KT was getting away with murder out
there. Even Consor on the post game show said as much
and he never criticizes the refs. Right before McGee got
the T, KT nearly undressed him with no call. I can understand
why he would be upset.

We should have let Kevin guard Boozer. See if Boozer
can shove him around. Booker could have gotten
more time. We need better than 0-5 from 3 from Shard.

Blatche was obviously horrible and the crowd, particularly
the guy sitting next to me who hates AB to begin with,
was letting him have it.

But for a near capacity crowd they had very little energy.
I don't think there is any question but that the crowd
had no expectation that they would win in the end.
And they cheered as such.

I was off my game last night. I got PO'd when a new
usher allowed some people to their seat in the middle
of the action right in front of me. It would have been
fine except for the douches that were already sitting there
in the wrong seats. I got upset and the guys who I actually
know who were trying to get to their seats felt like I was
getting after them and there was unnecessary tension.
Part of the reason for my own frustration was just
the game before, we arrived just before tip-off
and the usher held us back even though the game
hadn't even started. Better training is needed here.

Then the creepy old man won the dance cam again.
I just wrote to Ted about that. I'm no Victorian prude
when it comes to these things but there is a time and a
place. He shouldn't win repeatedly. Now we have
young kids who are imitating this guy and his pelvis
thrusts. It's sad. If they want to promote themselves
as family entertainment, they need to stop putting
this guy on camera.

[montestewart]

^
Speaking of family entertainment, how about the Christmas presents for the kids in the three boxes at the break?

Box #1: Kid gets a high fat, high calorie burrito
Box #2: Kid gets a scantily clad Wizards girl who will no doubt show him the ways of the world
Box #3: Kid gets a Wizards fan dad to replace his Bulls fan dad

Just what every kid should be, a fat, oversexed child abductee. Who thought that one out?

[dobrojim]

^
Speaking of family entertainment, how about the Christmas presents for the kids in the three boxes at the break?

Box #1: Kid gets a high fat, high calorie burrito
Box #2: Kid gets a scantily clad Wizards girl who will no doubt show him the ways of the world
Box #3: Kid gets a Wizards fan dad to replace his Bulls fan dad

Just what every kid should be, a fat, oversexed child abductee. Who thought that one out?

fair points, esp re the WIzards girl. What's a ten year old gonna do with/think about
that?

box 3 I don't have quite the take on it you did, but I do see how the
argument could be made. Not well thought out indeed.

[Severn Hoos]

We should have let Kevin guard Boozer. See if Boozer
can shove him around. Booker could have gotten
more time. We need better than 0-5 from 3 from Shard.

Yep, and you know who else would have looked good in that game? Jared Sullinger. Just the type of guy who puts a stop to those droughts, just throw him the ball and he'll get his, either buckets in the paint or at the FT line. And if it's the latter, all the better - takes a guy like Boozer out of his game by making him play defense and/or get in foul trouble.

Not saying he'll be all that as a 19-year old rookie next year, but I would so love to have him on this team. Blatche & Seraphin would look like quite a bench to bring in, no?

[REDardWIZskin]

good comments by a number of posters (ed, CCJ, MS.....)


But for a near capacity crowd they had very little energy.
I don't think there is any question but that the crowd
had no expectation that they would win in the end.
And they cheered as such.

I have talked to people about this before. To me it has been like this for a while, it is often louder in my living room when my brother, father and I are watching the game than it is in the Verizon center when i go to the games. John Wall seems to make a little bit of a difference with his exciting play. I don't know why its so quiet but my brother thinks that its because of the types of fans we have here in DC vs other places where it takes us more to get excited. When all of those Knicks fans took over the Verizon center a couple weeks ago it was embarrassing, they really made us look bad and we lost which only fueled the fire...

[dobrojim]

agreed

this is really for another thread but I remember a somewhat
lengthy post on this topic, possibly by Doc Linc, that expressed
a longing for wildly passionate completely fanatic fans and
described them in a beautiful way.

I wonder if the lack of passion doesn't have an impact
on the refs in terms of lack of more home team calls.

[WizarDynasty]

ok so i think i figured it out. Dre's biggest advantage is when he is backing someone down far out on the perimeter. he has the ability to spin both to his left and his right and that's what makes him so dangerous.


The problem with Flip is that he hasn't designed our offense to react to the advantage that dre creates off his spin. usually offenses force dre to spin to the baseline and then cut him off. Our entire offense should be designed on exploiting when dre spins to the baseline and creates a huge weakness in the defense. Right now, we don't have that level of sophisitication among the players on how to effectively exploit the weakness dre causes when he is able to get past his man on the baseline. We are expecting Dre to immediately cash in after he beat his man on the baseline..but he can't cash in those chips...the chips have to be cashed at the third level of our offense because Dre's initial spin move to the baseline is counter by him being double teamed by a help team mate, that double team is breakdown in the other teams defense and we don't have a consistent team strategy for making the other team pay so it kind of makes dre look bad. Also Dre getting blocked is because he can't finish over a help defender but the real problem is that Flip offense isn't sophisitcated enough to exploit the weakness that the help defender causes and or the player left open to double dre doesn't have the skills to take advantage of being open. huge problem with Flip's offense strategy IQ.


Blatche has the power and agility to force get by his man but he doesn't have the athleticism to perform a hop step to get off a high percentage moving toward the basket. blatche's poor athleticism after picking up his dribble...is making him fade away from the basketball instead of floating towards the basket. So again, just thinking out loud, Blatche's ability to drive to hole is his strength but he doesn't have HOP STEP ability...the ability to lunge while dribbling toward the basket before he takes his two step and shoot. Without that ability, Blatche can take advantage of his ability to stay low to the ground while driving by and big. So until Blatche can keep his knees bent staying low to ground and perform a hop step with his left hand...also getting a good 4 to 5 feet off his initial hop step before taking his two steps, his ability to dribble with his left hand is basically wasted.


Dre needs to get alot more Air--off his Hop Step lunge and catch the ball going up by his elbow while lunging in the air in the middle of his dribble while planting his foot cutting to the basket. maybe he can't do this because of his broken foot?

[tontoz]

^ paragraphs are your friend.

We are expecting Dre to immediately cash in after he beat his man on the baseline..but he can't cash in those chips...the chips have to be cashed at the third level of our offense because Dre's initial spin move to the baseline is counter by him being double teamed by a help team mate, that double team is breakdown in the other teams defense and we don't have a consistent team strategy for making the other team pay so it kind of makes dre look bad.

Wow. Where do I start with this? Chips, levels ...... huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-on_sentence

[WizarDynasty]

a person normally get chips when they win a battle, just because you create a dent in an opponents armor doesn't mean you have the kill or defeat. you have to know how take advantage of the dent. Blatche creates a dent in the other teams', team defense when a help defender has to double blatche. blatche has created a dent but he can't beat the help defender. blatche was the first level of the attack, the second level or the attack is the pass blatche makes to exploit the weakness from the help defender, that would be the second level of the offense. Whoever blatche makes a pass to should have an advantage because of the hole that Blatche created from the double team. So the second level of our team cashes in the chips that Blatche earned from beating his man. Sometimes the other teams defense is so good at switching that are able to get to recover and stop the second level of our offense, so whoever blatche passed to forces the team sacrifice again to guard him and thus a third pass is made, that would be the third level of our offense--that third level cashes in the chips that blatche initially created from beating his man. you see how it works?


Our offense isn't disciplined or doesn't have enough basketball iq to cash chips in at the third level which is directly related to flip. WE normally waste it because we don't know how to take advantage of holes that we create in a defense..or usually we have wide open players that can hit a jump shot in the past--in chicago game it was definitely rashard lewis--0-5 and Blatche not being able to excute an athletic hop step with his left hand after beating his man which is why he shot so poorly. Also he can't use his body to shield of a defender well which is why he is getting blocked at rim so much.

[tontoz]

[pancakes3]

you're not alone, tontoz.

[AnotherFinn]

Second thought. Well, you can even learn something when you get you butt whopped. You don't only learn when your playing well or winning.

It was the kind of comment that was " glass half full " He wasn't saying he hung him out to dray.

Actually you learn usually more if you don't win, because losing usually forces you to think what went wrong (boneheads excluded).

And for a love of god WizarDynasty, when you hit enter, hit it x2 to make empty line for eyes to get some rest from those walls of text....

[montestewart]

a person normally get chips when they win a battle,
just because you create a dent in an opponents armor
doesn't mean you have the kill or defeat. you have to know
how take advantage of the dent. Blatche creates a dent
in the other teams', team defense when a help defender
has to double blatche. blatche has created a dent but
he can't beat the help defender. blatche was the first
level of the attack, the second level or the attack is the pass
blatche makes to exploit the weakness from the help defender,
that would be the second level of the offense.

Whoever blatche makes a pass to should have an advantage
because of the hole that Blatche created from the double team.
So the second level of our team cashes in the chips
that Blatche earned from beating his man.

WizarDynasty, you need to channel your inner beat poet.

[JWizmentality]

The hell is going on around here? Why didn't anybody tell me we were having chips n dip. You grimy stingy ass mutha fuggas.