Shanahan benches Donovan McNabb. Grossman to start!

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Is a 34 year old Donovan McNabb who just threw more INT's than TD's going to be part of their future? No.

And if Kyle didn't have his head so far up his own butt, Donovan puts up better numbers from listening to his quarterback to throw more screen passings. The O-Line sucked, the recievers were bad, the running game didn't exist. Manning wouldn't be doing much better, and the coaches would bench him for trying to change up the playbook too, I'd imagine.

[Ong_dynasty]

Is a 34 year old Donovan McNabb who just threw more INT's than TD's going to be part of their future? No.

And if Kyle didn't have his head so far up his own butt, Donovan puts up better numbers from listening to his quarterback to throw more screen passings. The O-Line sucked, the recievers were bad, the running game didn't exist. Manning wouldn't be doing much better, and the coaches would bench him for trying to change up the playbook too, I'd imagine.

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well by the looks of it the claims by the agent are fake.
Unless you want to review all the games, be my guest.

I do not understand why McNabb is getting the pity vote. It is not like he has been playing lights out.
and I agree that Grossman is probably not the answer, but he did put up 30 pts. which is not a bad for a backup qb right? so maybe the coaches did see something.
Just to confirm, with McNabb at the helm he was unable to put 30 pts once..so.......

Why is McNabb getting such a pity vote or Shanahan is seen as such a devil, I mean adalius thomas was benched last year right?the uproar was not this great. and I assume the same has been for future stars that have been benched.
Commentators and ex-nfl players all say, this is a performance driven league (which it is) if you dont perform your out. shouldnt the same apply to McNabb? (atleast McNabb gets a nice 3.5mill before he gets kicked out).

[Nutty Nats Fan]

By the "looks" of it, you're basing that on what the Shanahans are saying, who lost all credibility in my eyes when they couldn't even honestly answer why they benched McNabb earlier in the year. McNabb really should just speak up, he is trying to be too "nice" and is allowing his agent to do the dirty work.

this is a performance driven league

So I guess after Manning threw 11 TDs in 3 games, he should have been benched too, right? Or after McNabb had a good game against Tampa that was lost by the kicking team (again) he should have continued to start?

Oh wait... neither of those things happened and ignored the performance on the field.

I'm not giving McNabb a pity vote, but speaking what I believe to be true. No QB would excel playing for the Redskins this year. They're an awful team. And to claim he wasn't able to put up 30, is just dumb. Against Houston, Redskins scored 27 points and the kicker missed two FG's. But I supposed that's the QB's fault the kicker sucks?

[Ong_dynasty]

By the "looks" of it, you're basing that on what the Shanahans are saying, who lost all credibility in my eyes when they couldn't even honestly answer why they benched McNabb earlier in the year. McNabb really should just speak up, he is trying to be too "nice" and is allowing his agent to do the dirty work.

this is a performance driven league

So I guess after Manning threw 11 TDs in 3 games, he should have been benched too, right? Or after McNabb had a good game against Tampa that was lost by the kicking team (again) he should have continued to start?

Oh wait... neither of those things happened and ignored the performance on the field.

I'm not giving McNabb a pity vote, but speaking what I believe to be true. No QB would excel playing for the Redskins this year. They're an awful team. And to claim he wasn't able to put up 30, is just dumb. Against Houston, Redskins scored 27 points and the kicker missed two FG's. But I supposed that's the QB's fault the kicker sucks?

I do not know what is actually happening and so do you. correct? Shanahan has lost all credibility in your eyes, but you believe an Agent with an agenda? see the problem there?
Umm, he did say why he benched mcnabb..out of the playoffs and wanted to see what else he had. and by the first game, it looks like he was right as Grossman did perform well.
you are taking 3 games by manning and 1 game by McNabb. to try and exaggerate my point. at the end of the day, he has not performed this year. I mean Icness showed his stats this season.and you really want to compare manning to mcnabb this season? before those 3 games, he was mvp status. was mcnabb even at a probowl level anytime this season?
it is not like McNabb played well throughout the season and was benched for no reason.
so 1 game out of 13 against the worse pass d in the nfl is the only time mcnabb can get 30 pts? is that really performing for you? heck grossman, who everybody thinks is horrendous (which he is) did it in 1 game against a slightly better d.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Lets see if Grossman can keep it up. Usually when a backup starts, they can have a big performance, especially when a team was planning for the starter to start. Dallas did say they were happy when they heard McNabb was benched, could have taken the game less serious too. But I really think it is silly and naive to claim the Reskins not being able to score well is McNabb's fault. Is he blameless? Of course not, but that team is awful. The offense line is bad. The receivers are bad. They don't have a running game. No team can put up 30 points a game (usually) in that situation.

And Icness starts don't show the whole picture. It doesn't include the 37 sacks McNabb has taken (2nd in NFL currently), nor the amount of hits. Which would hurt any QB's numbers. Someone made a good post about that, but I think it was in a thread on the Wizard's board.

[Ong_dynasty]

I dont think McNabb has lost it or anything like that.
But he has played poor and was taken out to see what else is there..I just do not understand the big hoo ha or the feeling that McNabb was treated badly (he received 3.5 mill for fcuk sake!).
I know it is uncommon for a qb to do so. But in any team sport when there is not alot to play for, these decisions normally happen.!

[Nutty Nats Fan]

I dont think McNabb has lost it or anything like that.
But he has played poor and was taken out to see what else is there..I just do not understand the big hoo ha or the feeling that McNabb was treated badly (he received 3.5 mill for fcuk sake!).
I know it is uncommon for a qb to do so. But in any team sport when there is not alot to play for, these decisions normally happen.!

Then why not start Beck? See what he can do in the NFL with no receivers, running game, or offensive line. I can agree with doing that, since the season is over. The why the Shanahan's have treated McNabb has been very unprofessional though. And oh, he got paid? Big freaking deal. You can be paid a good salary and still be treated poorly.

[Ong_dynasty]

I dont think McNabb has lost it or anything like that.
But he has played poor and was taken out to see what else is there..I just do not understand the big hoo ha or the feeling that McNabb was treated badly (he received 3.5 mill for fcuk sake!).
I know it is uncommon for a qb to do so. But in any team sport when there is not alot to play for, these decisions normally happen.!

Then why not start Beck? See what he can do in the NFL with no receivers, running game, or offensive line. I can agree with doing that, since the season is over. The why the Shanahan's have treated McNabb has been very unprofessional though. And oh, he got paid? Big freaking deal. You can be paid a good salary and still be treated poorly.

Isn't that why Beck is number 2? i guess if Grossman plays bad or is injured shannahan would consider it.!
I am not saying Redskins are loaded and I also do believe McNabb is good enough to play well again nxt year.
But at the end of the day he has played average at very very best (if you have Mcnabb tinted glasses that is). Why is being benched being treated poorly? He did not perform? Should you just keep him playing even though it does not seem to be working (in terms of the W-L?). Should you just continue playing him because of what he has achieved in the past? We just have to agree to disagree with regards to this topic.
I also think Mcnabb should get becnhed more regularly, it seems like he keeps on getting new contract everytime he does.!

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Should you just continue playing him because of what he has achieved in the past? We just have to agree to disagree with regards to this topic.

No, I think if you are going to bench him, do it in a professional manner and don't rip him to the media during the season, when he has been nothing but professional while trying to play through injuries.

I think we can agree on that much? Bench him if the season is over, but treat him with respect at least.

[Ong_dynasty]

I agree that I never liked the Detroit fiasco.
but hey as I said, he seem to have forgiven the redskins once he accepted a new contract.(which he did exactly the same thing with eagles)

Correct me if im wrong, but Im pretty sure Kyle was professional in the benching now.?he explained his thought process to McNabb and the media.

[Dirty Water]

GUNSLINGIN SEXY REXY!

[Pharmcat]

I agree that I never liked the Detroit fiasco.
but hey as I said, he seem to have forgiven the redskins once he accepted a new contract.(which he did exactly the same thing with eagles)

Correct me if im wrong, but Im pretty sure Kyle was professional in the benching now.?he explained his thought process to McNabb and the media.

no one is going to argue that mcnabb is having a great season (he's not)

the problem is they didnt tell him of the benching, he found out thru the media....thats downright disrespectful, especially to a pro-bowler with 10 yrs of service in the league

[Ong_dynasty]

^^
Was it not leaked?!?!?now if the Shanahan's were the ones that leaked it. I agree. But Im pretty sure before the press conference to officially claim that Rex was starting he spoke to McNabb first.!