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Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end

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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#301 » by RedBulls23 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:11 pm

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Rerisen wrote:You don't seem to be convincing anyone here. I'm sure you'll find more acceptance on the Knicks board though.


You guys bash Knicks fans for everything your doing yourselves. You clown on Knicks fans for being delusional for this for that, then I look on this board and see everything you say we do, you guys do as well. Dont hate the Knicks fans when your own fans are just as bad.

Bulls have missed 2 of their 3 best players at one point so far this season and we sill have the better record. Bulls fans say Knicks fans are delusional because you clearly are. First you beat us with out Boozer now without Noah.

Only person in denial here is you! But what else can you expect from a new yorker!
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#302 » by rtblues » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:14 pm

One thing I don't get, Taj had a slight concussion and was out a very brief time, 2 games I believe.
But to listen to the media, about getting back in shape, and so on, damn, sounds like the guy was
out for a 10 weeks.
They need this guy to contribute, period! Especially in Noah's absence.

On the Fred and Mark podcast, Fred said something right on,
If JJ can't get in and any time in a 30 point blowout, then RELEASE him.

Well, maybe trade him, but his permanent seat is getting frustrating/embarrassing!
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#303 » by GetBuLLish » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:14 pm

Sorostaran wrote:Six times the Bulls had an easy 2 with the numbers, but Rose ended up drawing the defense to him and missing a very contested shot each time. Rose just puts his head down and pushes and his trailers look like they don't know they are supposed to do. If they had their heads screwed on straight on fast breaks they would have won this one in a nailbiter.

Thib needs to watch some Utah fast break films. At the start of the break Deron will take one look at where his players are, then he puts his head down and the trailers just run to and fill their respective lanes with confidence, and by the time Deron gets to the hoop he knows exactly where his trailers are without looking back.

On Bulls' fast break the trailers don't reposition to fill the lanes. Two times tonight they even have two trailers filling the same lane that Rose ended up occupying. That is just unacceptably bad fast break coaching. It is like they have no system in play for fast breaks and are playing just playing ad lib. Thib has to coach them better than that.


Completely agree with you. The Bulls are AWFUL on fastbreaks. And Rose has to share a large part of the blame here. We can get Korver with wide open threes on so many fast breaks but we don't. You said to look at Utah fast break films; I'd also advise the Bulls to watch Celtics fast break clips -- especially looking for how they find Ray Allen trailing.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#304 » by jl342323 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:15 pm

if u stay in the knicks board long enough, they will brainwash u into believing knicks are on same level as the bulls.
“He don’t care (about offense). He just cares about defense. When we come down or shoot a bad shot or whatever, he don’t really care about that. -Rose talking about Thibs
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#305 » by Titleist » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:16 pm

jl342323 wrote:if u say in the knicks board long enough, they will brainwash u into believing knicks are on same level as the bulls.


Let em have their fun while they can, reality will come calling soon enough.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#306 » by DJhitek » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:17 pm

AmareNY wrote:Hey it's one game and who cares if you got punched in the mouth on Christmass Day? With the whole world watching on ESPN That sting you are feeling is called pride, in a few days you get over it. If some forum member says anything about the game? Just make up a few excuses or cry for a Mod to save you.


Save who? It's a message board, seems you care too much about defending two wins over a specific team to strike up a decent conversation. Or you lack the intelligence to do so.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#307 » by GetBuLLish » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:17 pm

By the way, anyone watching the Celtics-Magic game right now?!

Garnett just got fouled pretty hard by Hedo. No flagrant foul called. So Doc Rivers gets T'd up screaming for a flagrant!!! I repeat: Garnett, a 7 foot bully, gets fouled hard by a Euro softy in HEDO TURKOGLU!! And Rivers gets so pissed that there's no flagrant called that he gets T'd up.

You guys see where I'm going with this? That's an NBA HEAD COACHING MOVE RIGHT THERE! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIBS, PLEASE PROTECT OUR PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY OUR STAR POINT GUARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#308 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:19 pm

jl342323 wrote:if u stay in the knicks board long enough, they will brainwash u into believing knicks are on same level as the bulls.


There really isn't bad logic in that. The Knicks have proven they're at least a competitive playoff-caliber squad. They're 18-12. We're 18-10. Neither team is elite, but definitely one piece away.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#309 » by rtblues » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:20 pm

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jl342323 wrote:if u say in the knicks board long enough, they will brainwash u into believing knicks are on same level as the bulls.


Let em have their fun while they can, reality will come calling soon enough.


Yeah, first it was the Great Orlando....
Now the NY hype machine...

That's OK, let's see where everyone is at in April, and, man, I hope
that the Bulls do get the Knicks in the playoffs. Over 7 games, sorry,
Raymond Felton ain't Derrick Rose. Not even close...
Oh, and a certain guy with a pony-tail who averages 14 points and 11 rebounds a game will be there, who
wasn't tonight. Missed him a little bit!!!
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#310 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:22 pm

I know we hate the Knicks, but at least be real with yourselves, Bulls fans.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#311 » by BeKuK » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:23 pm

This call has been ugly for us........

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Post#312 » by Ndgt10 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:23 pm

The reality is that the Knicks have some good talent that matches up well against us. They can shoot the 3 ball while we have extreme difficulty defending it.

This would be a nightmare matchup for the Bulls in the playoffs if it happened. If the Knicks knock down 3's like this, we would be done in 5 games.

Also, I may be in the minority, but I think Asik brings nothing to the table offensively. He appears to be clueless the majority of the time, and when he gets the ball he has no ability to score.

I also think Bogans is struggling do to the pressure of being the 3rd scoring option on the floor when he's in. This guy could flat out score the ball at Kentucky and it's astonishing that he's seemed to lose that ability. I think if he was more of a primary-secondary option he would be more successful as it seems he always takes a shot when he has the option since he doesn't get a lot of looks. This guy was a beast at Kentucky and can still be one in the NBA, imo.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#313 » by The ROY » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:24 pm

Sorostaran wrote:Six times the Bulls had an easy 2 with the numbers, but Rose ended up drawing the defense to him and missing a very contested shot each time. Rose just puts his head down and pushes and his trailers look like they don't know they are supposed to do. If they had their heads screwed on straight on fast breaks they would have won this one in a nailbiter.

Thib needs to watch some Utah fast break films. At the start of the break Deron will take one look at where his players are, then he puts his head down and the trailers just run to and fill their respective lanes with confidence, and by the time Deron gets to the hoop he knows exactly where his trailers are without looking back.

On Bulls' fast break the trailers don't reposition to fill the lanes. Two times tonight they even have two trailers filling the same lane that Rose ended up occupying. That is just unacceptably bad fast break coaching. It is like they have no system in play for fast breaks and are playing just playing ad lib. Thib has to coach them better than that.


Agreed. They definintely need to work on that but we've seriously been pretty bad on the fast break since the dynasty was over. As great as Rose is, I'm not the most confident in them when it comes to 2 or 3 on 1 fast break opprotunities. They blow it more than half the time unless Rose takes it up himself.

BTW...I don't see how you guys can be confident in Deng as a 3rd option on tram trying to contend. He needs to move down a notch. Dude is super soft.

And yes...Thank you Red...Knicks got two more losses but we're going by records? We're pretty much in the same class. Get over it.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#314 » by RedBulls23 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:25 pm

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jl342323 wrote:if u stay in the knicks board long enough, they will brainwash u into believing knicks are on same level as the bulls.


There really isn't bad logic in that. The Knicks have proven they're at least a competitive playoff-caliber squad. They're 18-12. We're 18-10. Neither team is elite, but definitely one piece away.

Eh...If we have Noah, and Booze for the entire season I bet anything we have a better record by more then just 1 game. We are 1 piece away, but unless that piece is Melo the Knicks are more then 1 piece away from competing for a title.
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#315 » by Jeffster81 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:25 pm

Here is your Knick fan after beating the Bulls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6hj9JrHtGs

Here is a Bulls fan in response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
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Post#316 » by jl342323 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:26 pm

Ndgt10 wrote:The reality is that the Knicks have some good talent that matches up well against us. They can shoot the 3 ball while we have extreme difficulty defending it.

This would be a nightmare matchup for the Bulls in the playoffs if it happened. If the Knicks knock down 3's like this, we would be done in 5 games.

Also, I may be in the minority, but I think Asik brings nothing to the table offensively. He appears to be clueless the majority of the time, and when he gets the ball he has no ability to score.

I also think Bogans is struggling do to the pressure of being the 3rd scoring option on the floor when he's in. This guy could flat out score the ball at Kentucky and it's astonishing that he's seemed to lose that ability. I think if he was more of a primary-secondary option he would be more successful as it seems he always takes a shot when he has the option since he doesn't get a lot of looks. This guy was a beast at Kentucky and can still be one in the NBA, imo.


come on man bogans is 3rd optioin for us?
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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#317 » by Rerisen » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:26 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:We're 18-10.


What would you put our record at if we had Boozer and Noah all year?

I'm thinking between 20-10 and 22-8.

If we assume that we will be healthy come playoffs, knowing that answer is the more important measure of the team.
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Post#318 » by EastBayFJ » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:26 pm

rtblues wrote:One thing I don't get, Taj had a slight concussion and was out a very brief time, 2 games I believe.
But to listen to the media, about getting back in shape, and so on, damn, sounds like the guy was
out for a 10 weeks.
They need this guy to contribute, period! Especially in Noah's absence.



I can't believe the free pass this guys gets from the media and a large contingent of Bulls fans

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Re: Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end 

Post#319 » by jl342323 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:27 pm

WolverineBlood wrote:Here is your Knick fan after beating the Bulls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6hj9JrHtGs

Here is a Bulls fan in response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo


so true lol.
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Post#320 » by rtblues » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:27 pm

GetBuLLish wrote:By the way, anyone watching the Celtics-Magic game right now?!

Garnett just got fouled pretty hard by Hedo. No flagrant foul called. So Doc Rivers gets T'd up screaming for a flagrant!!! I repeat: Garnett, a 7 foot bully, gets fouled hard by a Euro softy in HEDO TURKOGLU!! And Rivers gets so pissed that there's no flagrant called that he gets T'd up.

You guys see where I'm going with this? That's an NBA HEAD COACHING MOVE RIGHT THERE! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIBS, PLEASE PROTECT OUR PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY OUR STAR POINT GUARD!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, Howard a non-factor in this game....
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