Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end

[LoveDaBoo]

Deng is incapable of playing 48 minutes of focused basketball. When he plays these aloof type games, and we lose, it's very hard to dismiss his lack of focus.

Deng was pretty bad for most of the game, again. After playing some nice games, he's once again regressed and has been playing poorly. They've got to put the kibosh on this guy dribbling. It's just ridiculous. As soon as he puts the ball on the floor, the opposing team is on him like flies on ****, and rightfully so.

[BJ43]

That charge on Booz in the 4th quarter was terrible. Amare had one foot on the circle and the other foot completely behind the circle. Huge 3 pt play taken away from us in crunchtime.

Absolutely!!!

And I'm pretty sure there was a timeout called right after this whistle, why couldn't this be reviewed during the timeout? That play could have made a HUGE difference in the outcome, I don't understand why that can't be reviewed and the right call be made

[LoveDaBoo]

^What's more, it was a total flop. Boozer didn't really hit him with any force.

[Ron Harper]

Deng is incapable of playing 48 minutes of focused basketball. When he plays these aloof type games, and we lose, it's very hard to dismiss his lack of focus.

Deng was pretty bad for most of the game, again. After playing some nice games, he's once again regressed and has been playing poorly. They've got to put the kibosh on this guy dribbling. It's just ridiculous. As soon as he puts the ball on the floor, the opposing team is on him like flies on ****, and rightfully so.

Thibs is very aware of Deng's game. He knows if he doesn't get Deng going early, he's probably not showing up. Today, in fact, our first possession was that little set where Deng buries himself in the lane and we throw a lob up to him.

A few things that would help Deng's game would be for him to actually dunk the basketball. Develop a quicker release. And something we've been wanting for a couple years now, learn to play with his back to the basket.

It's just silly how he takes himself out of the game before the other team even gets a chance to. We shouldn't have to cater to our 3rd option just to get him to play with some balls.

But Deng is what he is. A 50/50 player. You'll either love his game on that particular night, or hate it.

[Titleist]

Deng is incapable of playing 48 minutes of focused basketball. When he plays these aloof type games, and we lose, it's very hard to dismiss his lack of focus.

Deng was pretty bad for most of the game, again. After playing some nice games, he's once again regressed and has been playing poorly. They've got to put the kibosh on this guy dribbling. It's just ridiculous. As soon as he puts the ball on the floor, the opposing team is on him like flies on ****, and rightfully so.

Thibs is very aware of Deng's game. He knows if he doesn't get Deng going early, he's probably not showing up. Today, in fact, our first possession was that little set where Deng buries himself in the lane and we throw a lob up to him.

A few things that would help Deng's game would be for him to actually dunk the basketball. Develop a quicker release. And something we've been wanting for a couple years now, learn to play with his back to the basket.

It's just silly how he takes himself out of the game before the other team even gets a chance to. We shouldn't have to cater to our 3rd option just to get him to play with some balls.

But Deng is what he is. A 50/50 player. You'll either love his game on that particular night, or hate it.

Deng=Soft. Just like you can't teach size or speed, you can't unteach soft.

[DJhitek]

*scratches head*

We stumbled into the 8th seed two yrs straight..so, exactly what level are we on?

I think the hate for NY is so blind, some of you just can't believe we're pretty much of the same caliber. Newsflash...Amare and Pringles have been pretty good together.

Chicago hasn't done anything but coming here you'd think we've been a top tier squad the last few yrs. Glad they've been in the offs the last 5 outta 6 but c'mon now, we haven't done anything.......YET

Based on that logic Miami hasn't proven anything either. I mean, they were a low seeded playoff team last season right? Keep scratching your head bud...

[Ron Harper]

Not disagreeing. He's still talented. Deng just doesn't seem to be very self motivated.

[LoveDaBoo]

Deng is incapable of playing 48 minutes of focused basketball. When he plays these aloof type games, and we lose, it's very hard to dismiss his lack of focus.

Deng was pretty bad for most of the game, again. After playing some nice games, he's once again regressed and has been playing poorly. They've got to put the kibosh on this guy dribbling. It's just ridiculous. As soon as he puts the ball on the floor, the opposing team is on him like flies on ****, and rightfully so.

Thibs is very aware of Deng's game. He knows if he doesn't get Deng going early, he's probably not showing up. Today, in fact, our first possession was that little set where Deng buries himself in the lane and we throw a lob up to him.

A few things that would help Deng's game would be for him to actually dunk the basketball. Develop a quicker release. And something we've been wanting for a couple years now, learn to play with his back to the basket.

That goes for just about our whole team, too. What does this team have against dunking? Boozer had some nice numbers today, but if he would have gone up with authority, he'd have far better numbers still; between getting blocked and missing layups, he left lots of points out there.

It's just silly how he takes himself out of the game before the other team even gets a chance to. We shouldn't have to cater to our 3rd option just to get him to play with some balls.

But Deng is what he is. A 50/50 player. You'll either love his game on that particular night, or hate it.

What he is is the single most frustrating player ever. If he was terrible, you could just expect him to be terrible and be done with it. But he's so good some times, so bad at others, and still other times just nonexistent. It's unbelievable how he just never seems to get even slightly more consistent. Every year, every game, even every quarter, it's just a coin-flip what you're going to get.

[BJ43]

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said. “I think we have to execute when we are being doubled-teamed. We’ve got to make plays. We didn’t do that tonight.”

Not just tonight, we have barely done it all season with the exception of Boozer who is one of the few guys who can make the right pass. This is something they absolutely need to work on, they need to have a clear plan in mind for when that double team is making its way over to start moving and punish teams for leaving a guy open, rather than waiting for the double team to arrive and then getting caught up having to force bad cross court passes that get picked off

[Titleist]

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said. “I think we have to execute when we are being doubled-teamed. We’ve got to make plays. We didn’t do that tonight.”

Not just tonight, we have barely done it all season with the exception of Boozer who is one of the few guys who can make the right pass. This is something they absolutely need to work on, they need to have a clear plan in mind for when that double team is making its way over to start moving and punish teams for leaving a guy open, rather than waiting for the double team to arrive and then getting caught up having to force bad cross court passes that get picked off

Great in theory, but who exactly is going to do the punishing? Bogus? Korver, who's been deng like in his inconsistency? Or D-i-e-a-u-ng the paradigm of inconsistency?

[BJ43]

That goes for just about our whole team, too. What does this team have against dunking?

I was thinking the same thing,, maybe there's a no dunk policy like the headbands? They need to go up and just try to dunk it, I don't even mind some missed dunks because a lot of the times the refs will bail you out for being aggressive even if th contact is the same degree as a layup attempt that misses and no foul is called

Asik, Boozer, Brewer, Deng and even Rose all need to go up stronger and go for the dunk, having said that I believe injuries may have something to do with it, I know Taj is not shy about going for the dunk

[BJ43]

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said. “I think we have to execute when we are being doubled-teamed. We’ve got to make plays. We didn’t do that tonight.”

Not just tonight, we have barely done it all season with the exception of Boozer who is one of the few guys who can make the right pass. This is something they absolutely need to work on, they need to have a clear plan in mind for when that double team is making its way over to start moving and punish teams for leaving a guy open, rather than waiting for the double team to arrive and then getting caught up having to force bad cross court passes that get picked off

Great in theory, but who exactly is going to do the punishing? Bogus? Korver, who's been deng like in his inconsistency? Or D-i-e-a-u-ng the paradigm of inconsistency?

Well it doesn't have to be a 3pt shot? It really depends who doubled, but the idea is to get an open shot before the defense can react and/or by making/faking the right pass. Other than Bogans who has not yet proven he can knock down the open shot with any kind of consistency I believe both Korver and Deng could do so, I much prefer them taking open shots than trying to create for themselves

[Titleist]

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said. “I think we have to execute when we are being doubled-teamed. We’ve got to make plays. We didn’t do that tonight.”

Not just tonight, we have barely done it all season with the exception of Boozer who is one of the few guys who can make the right pass. This is something they absolutely need to work on, they need to have a clear plan in mind for when that double team is making its way over to start moving and punish teams for leaving a guy open, rather than waiting for the double team to arrive and then getting caught up having to force bad cross court passes that get picked off

Great in theory, but who exactly is going to do the punishing? Bogus? Korver, who's been deng like in his inconsistency? Or D-i-e-a-u-ng the paradigm of inconsistency?

Well it doesn't have to be a 3pt shot? It really depends who doubled, but the idea is to get an open shot before the defense can react and/or by making/faking the right pass. Other than Bogans who has not yet proven he can knock down the open shot with any kind of consistency I believe both Korver and Deng could do so, I much prefer them taking open shots than trying to create for themselves

I know it doesn't have to be just threes. Problem is these guys are just too inconsistent from every range. Deng is not money from 15 feet, and Korver can't seem to catch a good enough look. We need another shooter to loosen things up.

[BJ43]

Another thing which has been brought up before by others and myself a couple of times in the past, Rose needs to find a medium between coming all the way back to get the ball off the defensive rebounder and being so far ahead with his back turned to the defense trying catch a pass that it ends up picked off, or he turns it over.

I understand and appreciate wanting to go back at them but secure the ball first, one thing at a time

[alucryts]

i absolutely loathed derrick rose's decision making today....he was legit chucking. there was one fast break 3 on 2.....had korver WIDE OPEN on the wing and passed him up for a missed layup. the refs were not that bad tonight at all...sure some bad calls but this game was not one sided in calls at all. both teams played terribly....the knicks just less terribly.

i chalk this loss up to three things in no order:
-not running knicks off the 3 point line
-derrick rose decision making and turn overs
-piss poor free throw shooting

i thought rose was really poor today. yet, with 25/8 espn is eatin it up..

[BJ43]

We need another shooter to loosen things up.

I'm all for that, but who is the problem, with the pieces the Bulls have available for trade what can they realistically get? I guess the idea was that Watson could have been that guy but he hasn't found his spot on this team yet and I wouldnt be opposed to moving him along with Bogans and draft picks for the right piece...but again the question is who is that right piece

[Titleist]

i absolutely loathed derrick rose's decision making today....he was legit chucking. there was one fast break 3 on 2.....had korver WIDE OPEN on the wing and passed him up for a missed layup..

I remember that play, and agree I thought that was very un-Rose like when I saw it. But then Korv probably misses the layup if he did dish it to him.

I think Rose is getting tired of trusting these donkeys..and is trying to shoulder the load....and it's beginning to wear on him.

[TheAdmiral]

So I didn't watch this game, and I don't want to make any assumptions by just looking at the boxscore.

The 21 turnovers, 20 fouls and the 4-14 from downtown vs their 12-22 from downtown stick out to me. Did we again come out flat and did we not guard the three point line well?

Could someone summarize the game for me?

[BJ43]

i absolutely loathed derrick rose's decision making today....he was legit chucking. there was one fast break 3 on 2.....had korver WIDE OPEN on the wing and passed him up for a missed layup...

Agreed and it was clear from the start, he came out with something to prove, it was evident from his interactions with the crowd early in the 4th qtr, seemed out of character for him, great when it works, and it was later in the game but it didnt help his teammates get involved, I was surprised not to see more Boozer involvement in the offense even if he did finish with great numbers I would have liked to have seen a lot more touches

Rose had his wow moments but his decision making was off, he hesitated when he should have shot, he shot when he should have passed, hey it's going to happen, I just hate that we have to wait so long to play them again...then again by then Noah should be back and if both teams are healthy that game has no excuses, and I want us to blow them out

I miss what Gordon used to do to the Knicks, make them his b!tch time and time again in the 4th qtr

[BJ43]

So I didn't watch this game

I envy you