Most wanted to improve the team

[Foye]

X-Mas day just passed and I thought it would be nice to have a list of players that the team should target to improve. Stay realistic. While I would want Wade here as well getting him is not realistic.

My primary target would be a PG that can actually run the teams offense but I'm still hoping that Flynn and/or Rubio can figure that position out.

1. Defensive minded PF/C to back up Darko/Love or start instead of Darko. Basically an upgrade over Tolliver as backup or taking a flyer on an injury prone C that has top potential.

- Anderson Varejao
- Anthony Randolph
- Greg Oden (relatively unrealistic)
- Kevin Seraphin (I really like him but he has got a long way to develop into such a player - we should probably target players that are ready to contribute right away)

2. A hard nosed defender at the 2. With Beasley and Love in the starting line-up we need a lockdown defender at the 2 that can cover the Wade and Kobe's in this league. I want a guy like Sefolosha or Afflalo. I thought Brewer has the potential to develop into such a guy but he hasn't exactly made much progress.
I don't think Thabo and Afflalo are available, though. Does anyone have an idea who to target here?
We should wait and see how Webster develops, though.
An alternative would be going after Gerald Wallace. Dude plays defense and is a capable offensive player. Two way players are very rare in the nba - and salary-wise he's cheaper than Iggy. I think we have the assets to get him without moving Love, Beasley and Rubio.
Move Beasley to the bench and let him become a 6th man scoring option as a sub for Love and Wallace. That would give us a super strong 3/4 rotation. When Charlotte continues to suck that might become a serious possibility.

3. A veteran that shows our wings how to take the ball to the hole.
Get me T-Mac in the offseason for a few dollars. I don't care if he can still play well but he should be able to show Beasley and Wes some of his prime moves. It's so frustrating when you see those two guys settling for jumpers instead of taking it to the hole or not even attempting shots like Johnson did a lot of games this year. Hell Webster had only a very limited offensive role in Portland and he's a far better finisher in the paint than Beasley and Johnson.

Assets I would be willing to part with (for the right price):
- Johnson, Webster, Pekovic, Tolliver, Mem/Utah 1st round picks, Koufos, Ridnour, Telfair, Ellington, Hayward

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

Defensive minded center to start instead of Darko?

[Foye]

Defensive minded center to start instead of Darko?

If it's an upgrade then yes. Oden would be an upgrade if healthy for example.

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

I thought i was one of the more pessimistic guys concerning darko, guess i was wrong.

2ndly, por gives oden a qualifying. thats the most recent. and he will never be as dominant as predicted if he ever returns. he will be much slimmer and basically a rookie.

[shangrila]

Agree with 2, would be going for Iggy first and then Ellis and then anyone else. Kind of agree with 3, although I'd be looking at guys like Michael Redd. Maybe a little washed up but can still do something at an elite level.

Also kind of agree with 1, but just as a backup. I want Darko to keep starting

[Foye]

I thought i was one of the more pessimistic guys concerning darko, guess i was wrong.

2ndly, por gives oden a qualifying. thats the most recent. and he will never be as dominant as predicted if he ever returns. he will be much slimmer and basically a rookie.

So far Darko has proven nothing but inconsistency. Oden if healthy is definitely an upgrade. Not saying he will ever get back fully healthy but I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him if Portland gave up on him. That's basically what I meant. That may have been a little unclear in my post.

My most realistic scenario would be going after AV. I like that guy and we probably have the assets to get him. I like a rotation of Darko/Love with Varejao being the backup.

Agree with 2, would be going for Iggy first and then Ellis and then anyone else. Kind of agree with 3, although I'd be looking at guys like Michael Redd. Maybe a little washed up but can still do something at an elite level.

Also kind of agree with 1, but just as a backup. I want Darko to keep starting

I'm not a big fan of Ellis. Trading for Ellis would automatically mean that we're parting ways with Beasley. There's no way a team with Love, Beasley and Ellis would have success. We would score 120 a night but good teams would have no trouble outscoring us because our defense would suck even more than it does now.
Iggy definitely makes some sense right now as he could also play the SG position (and a little younger) but I just think Wallace is the better player.
I can't tell whether B-Easy's ego would accept the role of a 6th man scoring threat off the bench but IMO it definitely makes some sense to remove either him or Love of the starting lineup until they're capable defenders. In the nba you can't allow to have 2 bad defenders in the starting lineup if you want to be a serious threat (unless you have superstars that cover some of the weaknesses of your other players). And we have like 3 of them.

The blueprint of a typical Timberwolves game this season is:
We stay close to almost every team until the end of the 3rd quarter. Sometimes we even lead by double figures. 4th quarter arrives other team knows: hey, we've gotta step our D up to win this thing. Our players are starting to shoot bricks because we settle for jumpers too much and the opposing defense contests shots better.
Our team either doesn't realize that we need to step up the D as well or just doesn't know how to step up their D and the opposing teams just continue to get good looks.
Defensively, we're worlds away from being a basketball team. Our focus should be on adding someone that can help us prevent others from scoring.

[C.lupus]

I would love to add a couple defensive-minded vets to this team. I think our core of Rubio-Johnson-Webster-Beasley-Love-Darko is solid and has a lot of potential for growth. If we could get somebody like Varejao without giving up a core player, I'd be all over that. Add another solid defensive backcourt vet and I think we are good. The team just needs to learn how to put it into a higher gear in the fourth quarter and keep their poise.

I'm not sure who that backcourt vet player is, though. This is the reason I've been in favor of adding Iggy but I understand the negatives of that move, also. A lesser, cheaper Iggy would be nice or a defensive vet backup pg (someone like Earl Watson) would be great.

Rubio/vet defensive pg
Webster/Johnson
Beasley/Johnson
Love/Tolliver/Varejao
Darko/Varejao

That's a good defensive team right there and the young core is intact.

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

Agreed that Darko has been inconsistent if you count the initial 10 or so games along with the games he played semi-injured, other than that he's been fairly consistent in jacking up his hook shots bad % wise. As i understood it you advocate that his defense has been inconsistent where my eyes declare to differ. i think he's been solid throughout on d from what i've seen. Especially help defense. He seems to have a feeling of not too shabby positioning.

Oden is a walking shadow. There is no basis whatsoever to claim he is an upgrade defensively over Darko if he returns. There is just too much unfortunate things going on with Greg. Even when he played, i wouldnt be sold on the though that Gregs help d was neccesarily better than darko's.


ill try to add some additional constructive contributions to the thread as well;

-Defense builds wins. Love and beasley have difficulties in that area.
-Rubio is not Minnesota savior. i have watched him enough to claim that. He will be nothing special once he comes over. Then again, if triangle is still in usage, he will not need to be spectacular.
-Flynn is not a good basketball player (i said that after watching 2 games of his last season)

far-fetched steps that would greatly improve Minnesota as a team, to the extent they'd become a contender:

MIN trades: Love, Beasley, Flynn/Rubio, 1rd pick
ATL trades: Horford, J. Smith

starting:
Flynn or Rubio or lottery pick
Webs
Smith
Horford
Milicic

bench: flynn or rubio or lotteray pick, johnson (2-3), tolliver, Pekovic, Koufos.

[Gobble]

I have hope for the core they have right now. I don't want to see any of these blow it up to acquire a veteran trade (Gerald Wallace, Iguadola, Monta Ellis, Josh Smith) that people are proposing. I'll take the following 3 things:

1) Giving Beasley the ball at the end of games, everytime, to see whether or not he can be that kind of guy, not that I haven't really enjoyed the Luke Ridnour as closer era.

2) Swapping Ridnour and Jonny Flynn's minutes. Flynn hasn't looked like anything special so far, but he was a high lottery pick, he's very young, and since the point of the season is player development, let's see what he's got.

3) Darko and Beasley stop committing moronic fouls. Watching Milicic commit fouls outside the 3-point line is eventually going to give me an aneurysm.

[Foye]

Agreed that Darko has been inconsistent if you count the initial 10 or so games along with the games he played semi-injured, other than that he's been fairly consistent in jacking up his hook shots bad % wise. As i understood it you advocate that his defense has been inconsistent where my eyes declare to differ. i think he's been solid throughout on d from what i've seen. Especially help defense. He seems to have a feeling of not too shabby positioning.

Oden is a walking shadow. There is no basis whatsoever to claim he is an upgrade defensively over Darko if he returns. There is just too much unfortunate things going on with Greg. Even when he played, i wouldnt be sold on the though that Gregs help d was neccesarily better than darko's.


ill try to add some additional constructive contributions to the thread as well;

-Defense builds wins. Love and beasley have difficulties in that area.
-Rubio is not Minnesota savior. i have watched him enough to claim that. He will be nothing special once he comes over. Then again, if triangle is still in usage, he will not need to be spectacular.
-Flynn is not a good basketball player (i said that after watching 2 games of his last season)

far-fetched steps that would greatly improve Minnesota as a team, to the extent they'd become a contender:

MIN trades: Love, Beasley, Flynn/Rubio, 1rd pick
ATL trades: Horford, J. Smith

starting:
Flynn or Rubio or lottery pick
Webs
Smith
Horford
Milicic

bench: flynn or rubio or lotteray pick, johnson (2-3), tolliver, Pekovic, Koufos.

Why would Atlanta do that? They would be foolish to trade Smith and Horford with the 120 mil of Johnson still on their books. Horford and Smith are the guarantee they remain a winning team the next few years.

Darko has been good on defense and inconsistent offensively. That was never out of question. Bringing in a defensive minded PF/C is for the sake of improving our defense in the paint further.
Like not giving the opponents a chance to go on a run when Darko is in foul trouble or needs rest.
Forget about that Oden thought anyway it's not realistic as mentioned in the OP.

[slinky]

starting:
Flynn or Rubio or lottery pick
Webs
Smith
Horford
Milicic

I can say with absolute certainty that this team is not a championship caliber team either. For me this team screams 1st round playoff exit for years to come. Sure the defense is better, but it still lacks the same go-to scorer that we are looking for now.

Smith, Horford, and Milicic are great defenders, I have no problem with that. But none of them are scorers. They are guys who consistently get half their point on putbacks and dunks. Nothing wrong with that...but we already have those guys now.

I don't think we need to blow up the entire team, just to find some defense. I am comfortable trading either Beasley or Love...but especially with Love, I firmly beleive he has more value than what he has been getting in return on these boards(for me Love for Smith is not fair return for us)...and beasley I am not sure he has played enough to establish his true value(i am not sure we can say for sure if he is a volume scoring chucker, or #1 type scorer with some defensive potential.)

But I am all for adding a couple of defensive minded stoppers.

Next year:
Rubio/Flynn
Defensive Player/Webster
Beasley/Wes
Love/Beasley/Toliver
Milicic/Defensive player/Pekovic

[wilt]

1) Guard Play
2) Defense
3) Spacing
4) Different Lineups needed (look at the +- numbers)

1) Right now, at times there are 4 guys on the court that can´t penetrate and dish to save their life, at times it´s basically 5 guys.
I actually love Wes Johnson, but it´s tough to get by with him as you 2 guard (by definition your 2nd best ballhandler) when he can´t put the ball on the floor much and definitely can´t adjust mid-drible or create for others.
Also, Beasley right now is way below average as a passer and creator and never passes when he attacks, ever.
I love Martell, but he too isn´t known to create for others or get his shots on his own. I think there´s some potential there, though.
You just can´t win if not one of your guards is above average really in terms of penetration or creating for others, not in todays league where guard play is so emphasized and bigs can be played the way they are by defenses.

2) There´s a couple atrocious defenders on the floor at all times, Love imo the worst of them all. There is just no words to describe my hatred of the way he treats defense as "i´ll rebound, what else do you want ?" . If you ever saw a guy like Ben Wallace in his prime you would never, ever be able to watch love rebound and be as impressed as the clueless media has been. The guy is a phenomenal rebounder, but he sacrifices a lot of basic and crucial defensive fundamentals alon the way.
The penetration defense also is abysmal, as is the guard´s defense in pick and roll situations as well as the (lack of) help defense when beat in theese situations. The only guys that help are Darko and Tolliver and Brewer (if he´s not busy overplaying a pass) and once you involve them in Pick and Rolls that get´s negated.

3) Darko, Love and Beasley take up each others space and neither gets very many easy shots delivered.
Darko and Love actually complement each other nively on paper, but all 3 together is cringe-worthy if you look at the spacing. That´s 3 guys that want to get the ball at the ellbow and need space there. The high number of TOs is no coincidence and often reminds me of college basketball where there´s often teams with terrible spacing and guard play, struggling to get big guys easy shots and thus only adding to the TO problems when the bigs are asked to create for themselves with help coming.

4) It can´t be just me noticing that the bench unit seems to hold their own a lot and often a mix of starters and bench players go on runs only to have the starting lineup be burried by the other teams starters.
A bit is just a lack of quality, but imo the makeup of the units is just not good. I actually wouldn´t know how to mix it up though ...

[TDWOLVESFAN]

If Portland is willing to trade Prizbilla for 1-2 of our non-core players + a 2nd round pick, he would be a good back up to Darko. Maybe a little too old but solid.

[younggunsmn]

#1, #2, and #3 Have to all be finding a PG that can play d (especially keep people out of the lane). If Rubio can do this I don't care if he shoots 25% next year. If not, we need to find someone who can.

I agree we need a good defensive C to backup Darko. I don't think a short term (IE rest of the season) fix is a good idea, I'm thinking at least a 2-3 year solution. Anthony Randolph is cheap for next year, can play C in Rambis's small-ball obsessed coaching style, and his trade value is at rock bottom. I am not a fan of sideshow bob varejao. Besides being vastly overpaid (26 mil the next 3 years), he's not a great shotblocker and a terrible offensive player.

Przybilla would be a cheap FA who could be an excellent role player for 2-3 years.
Tyson Chandler is a better option, but will be more expensive and it would be hard to get him to come to a cellar-dwelling team. There's also his injury history.
among 2011 FA's, you also have
Kendrick Perkins (coming off a blown out knee)
Nazr Mohammed (not a bad option if it's a cheap deal)
Dan Gadzuric - no
yao
oden
jeff foster
deandre jordan (RFA) (the mistake of draftic pek, trading #34 over taking him is now painfully apparent
Sam Dalembert

possibly available for trade:
johan petro
hasheem thabeet

None of that is terribly appealing, and the ones that are appealing (oden, chandler, jordan) are either longshots, injury risks, or both.

If we could get dalembert or przybilla cheap, or even mohammed, it would be an improvement over what we have now (IF you could get Rambis to play them).

[shangrila]

I'm not a big fan of Ellis. Trading for Ellis would automatically mean that we're parting ways with Beasley. There's no way a team with Love, Beasley and Ellis would have success. We would score 120 a night but good teams would have no trouble outscoring us because our defense would suck even more than it does now.

Says who? All the team would need is defenders everywhere else. Like Rubio and Darko in the starting line up and Tolliver and Webster off the bench.

Iggy definitely makes some sense right now as he could also play the SG position (and a little younger) but I just think Wallace is the better player.

Wallace isn't a SG though. Maybe he can play it in limited minutes, like Lebron, but the guy is a SF first and foremost.

I can't tell whether B-Easy's ego would accept the role of a 6th man scoring threat off the bench but IMO it definitely makes some sense to remove either him or Love of the starting lineup until they're capable defenders. In the nba you can't allow to have 2 bad defenders in the starting lineup if you want to be a serious threat (unless you have superstars that cover some of the weaknesses of your other players). And we have like 3 of them.

Love is as capable as he's going to get. He's a good post defender, decent rotational defenders when his head's on and that's about it. Beasley will only get better at it through experience. Taking either of them out of the starting line up, especially when they're the teams best and most consistent offensive players, would be stupid.

The blueprint of a typical Timberwolves game this season is:
We stay close to almost every team until the end of the 3rd quarter. Sometimes we even lead by double figures. 4th quarter arrives other team knows: hey, we've gotta step our D up to win this thing. Our players are starting to shoot bricks because we settle for jumpers too much and the opposing defense contests shots better.
Our team either doesn't realize that we need to step up the D as well or just doesn't know how to step up their D and the opposing teams just continue to get good looks.
Defensively, we're worlds away from being a basketball team. Our focus should be on adding someone that can help us prevent others from scoring.

Ok, well that's your take. Here's mine;

Throughout the game, especially when they're leading by double digits, they've shown good ball movement and unselfishness. Hell, they even play defence pretty well at times. But the 4th quarter comes, the team panics, the offence goes out the window and that causes frustration which leads to stupid plays on the defensive end.

The biggest problem with the defence revolves around the revolving door point guards. Rambis' system, whether you love it or hate it, clearly is based around helping when a man is beat. Since none of the point guards on the roster can stay in front of their man, that leads to the 3pt explosion we see nightly. So all they really need for their defence to improve incredibly is a point guard that can play defence.

[shangrila]

Anthony Randolph is cheap for next year, can play C in Rambis's small-ball obsessed coaching style

You keep bringing this up, but I just don't see it. It's kind of ignorant to say this with all the injuries to the front court and I know you'll counter with something about Koufos but...well, he's just not very good. Certainly not good enough to play over Love or Beasley.

[younggunsmn]

Anthony Randolph is cheap for next year, can play C in Rambis's small-ball obsessed coaching style

You keep bringing this up, but I just don't see it. It's kind of ignorant to say this with all the injuries to the front court and I know you'll counter with something about Koufos but...well, he's just not very good. [b]Certainly not good enough to play over Love or Beasley.[/b]

This is the part that you don't get even though I've explained it over and over:
You are not replacing Love or Beasley with Koufos
You ARE replacing BREWER or ELLINGTON with Koufos
AND moving Love and Beasley (our 2 biggest scoring threats) back to their NATURAL POSITIONS
where they usually have BETTER MATCHUPS, with smaller players defending them.

It's not Ignorant to say Rambis plays a ton of small ball. He played it a ton last year until Darko arrived, and Kahn got him 2 more bigs this year and he still uses it quite a bit even when Darko has been healthy. He was guarding the 4/5 at times with Love and either Brewer or Webster when Darko sat out for 2 games rather than play Koufos. That says a ton about how he values size (and Koufos in particular).

When he goes small against the 2nd unit, it doesn't bother me as much because teams rarely have super-dominant 2nd unit frontcourt players. It really bothers me when he does it against dominant 1st unit players though, especially at the end of games (like the Utah game where Jefferson and Milsap destroyed us in the final 5 minutes).

Koufos isn't great, but size matters in this league, and Koufos is much more competent defensively in the frontcourt than what we've been running out there at the end of games where Darko isn't an option. And even if Koufos stinks offensively he's at least a big body that can set some effective screens, which is more than Brewer and Ellington offer. That's my opinion.

hate small ball - check
brewer sucks, deserves no more than 5 mins - double check

That's just the way I feel.

I was a little more OK with the Love/Tolliver frontcourt because Tolliver seemed to be able to guard the stretch 4's that no one else on our team can handle, and play OK D in the post. Beasley is bad at stretch 4's and terrible guarding the post (Hickson and Jamison shredded him pretty good for most of the game). I also think it hurts Beasley's development to have him spend half his minutes guarding 4's, because he needs to learn to concentrate on improving his defense at the 3 (especially closing out on shooters) which seemed to be improving a bit.

Would I like a better backup C than Kosta? Definitely.
Do I think our best 2 players are best suited (short term and long term) by being played out of position in crunch time? Absolutely Not.
Would I like to see Koufos/Pek get more burn to see what we have in them? Definitely.

[shangrila]

This is the part that you don't get even though I've explained it over and over:
You are not replacing Love or Beasley with Koufos
You ARE replacing BREWER or ELLINGTON with Koufos
AND moving Love and Beasley (our 2 biggest scoring threats) back to their NATURAL POSITIONS
where they usually have BETTER MATCHUPS, with smaller players defending them.

But you are. Beasley and Love play a ton of minutes and they get a lot of those minutes at the 4 and 5. Playing Koufos more means taking minutes from them. And honestly, I'll take Brewer's impact, good or bad, over Koufos.

And while it may be their natural positions, stating "better matchups" like it's a fact is laughable. Love does what he does whether he's being guarded by a PF or C and Beas actually seems more comfortable at PF, seeing as how he has such a massive quickness advantage and his handles aren't as exposed.

It's not Ignorant to say Rambis plays a ton of small ball. He played it a ton last year until Darko arrived, and Kahn got him 2 more bigs this year and he still uses it quite a bit even when Darko has been healthy. He was guarding the 4/5 at times with Love and either Brewer or Webster when Darko sat out for 2 games rather than play Koufos. That says a ton about how he values size (and Koufos in particular).

Two things. First, last year the front court consisted of Love, Jefferson, Hollins, Jawai and Pecherov. He would be the worst coach in the history of basketball if he HADN'T played small ball with that kind of crap.

Secondly, and I've said it before, but Koufos just isn't very good. I mean you asked at some point why he wasn't put in when Jamison and Hickson was destroying Love/Beasley? From what I watched, and admittedly it wasn't the full game, but the few minutes I saw Koufos he was getting just as destroyed by those 2. I mean, you don't try to counter a quickness advantage with less quickness. That's like trying to put out a fire with petrol.

When he goes small against the 2nd unit, it doesn't bother me as much because teams rarely have super-dominant 2nd unit frontcourt players. It really bothers me when he does it against dominant 1st unit players though, especially at the end of games (like the Utah game where Jefferson and Milsap destroyed us in the final 5 minutes).

With a healthy Darko he doesn't, so there's that. And with Love at the 5 and Beasley at the 4 what they give up defensively they make up for offensively, while also leaving better defenders like Brewer and Webster to check the other team's perimeter players which is, coincidentally, where most "clutch" production comes from.

Koufos isn't great, but size matters in this league, and Koufos is much more competent defensively in the frontcourt than what we've been running out there at the end of games where Darko isn't an option. And even if Koufos stinks offensively he's at least a big body that can set some effective screens, which is more than Brewer and Ellington offer. That's my opinion.

Skill matters more then size and I'd rather have the more skilled players out there when the team needs skill, like late in game situations, then just throwing out size. Koufos is practically a liability out there on both ends. He doesn't rotate well and still looks lost in the offence. I really think you're just seeing what you want to with Koufos, or at the very least focusing on the little good he does and not the bad.

hate small ball - check

In certain situations it works fine, so I'll disagree.

brewer sucks, deserves no more than 5 mins - double check

Don't really agree with this either. I'm no fan, but the guy makes a positive impact defensively when he's out there. He just needs to limit the stupid plays and should probably not be playing at the ends of games...so, I disagree again.

That's just the way I feel.

Fair enough.

I was a little more OK with the Love/Tolliver frontcourt because Tolliver seemed to be able to guard the stretch 4's that no one else on our team can handle, and play OK D in the post. Beasley is bad at stretch 4's and terrible guarding the post (Hickson and Jamison shredded him pretty good for most of the game). I also think it hurts Beasley's development to have him spend half his minutes guarding 4's, because he needs to learn to concentrate on improving his defense at the 3 (especially closing out on shooters) which seemed to be improving a bit.

Well, for now Beas HAS to play the 4 so there's not much point in debating this. If Tolliver and Pek comes back and he's still playing a heap of minutes at the 4, then I'll give you this, but not now.

Would I like a better backup C than Kosta? Definitely.

Agreed.

Do I think our best 2 players are best suited (short term and long term) by being played out of position in crunch time? Absolutely Not.

If it's working, I have no problems with it. But the problem I see here is you're ignoring context. I mean, long term? Long term the team won't be struggling to find competent front court players who aren't injured (hopefully).

Would I like to see Koufos/Pek get more burn to see what we have in them? Definitely.

Well, Pek is injured so I don't know why you brought him up now. Koufos has pretty much shown what he is; a soft, finesse big who's a little stiff and mechanical on defence. Not exactly deserving of minutes.

[abrewbro68]

Perhaps the bad defense might be the coaching?

I don't know how good love can be defensively, but I do know Beasley was the starting PF on a team last year that was 2nd overall defensively. And that team had arroyo, Qrich, and JO as starters as well, all players besides Wade who are poor defensively.

Something has to be wrong, and I'm willing to bet it's the coaching.

As well, Love's 20ppg disappears when you take Beasley away from him. He needs Mike on the court with him as much as possible. Love already shoots as very poor FG% for a starting PF in this league, I can't imagine what would happen to it if he became the defense's primary focus with Mike not on the court with him.

[Greco21]

Well Shangrila I really do not remember just a single basket by Jamison over Koufos. He defended really well last night and i can go play by play to remind you what he did... Just watch the last minutes of the games and you will see that the middle of the paint was WIDE open. Everyone was just walking towards the basket. Small lineups will eventually cause less minutes to Beasly and Love or bad deffense because they will foul out. I agree with younggun that in this league size is really important.

As far as it concerns Koufos offense just be patient. He has good foot work, good in pick and roll situations and middle range shoot he is going to be a blueprint of money making. His post moves are not good at the moment but there is an adjustement between the muscle he is putting on and the balance he has to find on court.