Rockets Have Spoken To Kings, Bobcats About Yao

YC42Balla · Post #1 » by **YC42Balla** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:15 pm

This would suck... IMO, Yoa Ming's career is done. Unfortunately...

The Kings have the young players to acquire Yao Ming from the Rockets, while the Bobcats would have to include numerous draft picks in a deal.

Via Jonathan Feigen/Houston Chronicle

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/

SacTown Kings · Post #2 » by **SacTown Kings** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:18 pm

Yep Yao's career is over. Not sure why we would want him, unless Brooks is in the deal.

ADoaN17 · Post #3 » by **ADoaN17** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:25 pm

I would assume Brooks would be in the deal. Yao is done for. I'll trade Dally but I would not want to see Cousins go.

Post #4 » by **Wolfay** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:48 pm

SacTown Kings wrote:Yep Yao's career is over. Not sure why we would want him, unless Brooks is in the deal.

How does a billion fans sound?

SacKingsPejaFan · Post #5 » by **SacKingsPejaFan** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:55 pm

Wolfay wrote:
SacTown Kings wrote:Yep Yao's career is over. Not sure why we would want him, unless Brooks is in the deal.

How does a billion fans sound?

I'm sure the Chinese will solve all of the Kings financial woes as soon as Yao Ming sits on our bench in a suit then retires. :roll:

Post #6 » by **Wolfay** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:03 pm

SacKingsPejaFan wrote:
Wolfay wrote:
SacTown Kings wrote:Yep Yao's career is over. Not sure why we would want him, unless Brooks is in the deal.

How does a billion fans sound?

I'm sure the Chinese will solve all of the Kings financial woes as soon as Yao Ming sits on our bench in a suit then retires.

Couldn't hurt.

dozencousins · Post #7 » by **dozencousins** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:28 pm

YC42Balla wrote:This would suck... IMO, Yoa Ming's career is done. Unfortunately...

The Kings have the young players to acquire Yao Ming from the Rockets, while the Bobcats would have to include numerous draft picks in a deal.

Via Jonathan Feigen/Houston Chronicle

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/[/quote

I already posted in reguards to this since yesterday in the thread all trade rumors somethings brewing......

I know Yao getting traded to the KINGS is likely going to happen him & likely Brooks !

wiltchamberlain · Post #8 » by **wiltchamberlain** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:33 pm

Wolfay wrote:
SacTown Kings wrote:Yep Yao's career is over. Not sure why we would want him, unless Brooks is in the deal.

How does a billion fans sound?

If having Yao means a financial boon, why would the Rockets be getting rid of him in the first place? I think the idea that the Chinese worship Yao is an outdated belief, every year Yao's jersey has been falling in popularity to people like Kobe, Lebron, and Wade.

twoolfork1 · Post #9 » by **twoolfork1** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:33 pm

This trade doesn't make sense to me. I guess if Houston is trying to dump salary and don't expect Yao to return we have the cap space to help them. However, this is us doing them a favor so I really don't get why we would need to add some of our young assets to get a guy that will never play most likely. Hopefully Brooks and a first are involved to make it worth our while.

GTO · Post #10 » by **GTO** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:54 pm

Any Yao trade isn't about Yao the player, but Yao's contract, which is expiring and insured. The Rockets are willing to provide salary relief to a counterparty who want to dump a bad contract or two in exchange for getting some talent/picks in the deal.

SAC and CHA are mentioned because these are teams generally known as wanting to dump salary.

swissfosho · Post #11 » by **swissfosho** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:56 pm

I would do it if Brooks is involved. Whiteside better not be involved in the deal, hes gonna be really good. Dally is so terrible i cant even explain it. Get rid of Donte Green because he doesn't take the game serious like Casspi.

CALPURNIA · Post #12 » by **CALPURNIA** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:15 pm

If Evans ends up losing the remaining of the season, trading D'Alembert and some other player would mean go for the lottery, getting a really good player and start the next season with Evans, that rookie, Yao or his cap space for getting a good free agent or, in despite, if we have a close, some millions to be saved by the Maloofs.

SacKingZZZ · Post #13 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:47 am

You never know, this could be about the player too. I could see the Kings doing a deal with the idea that hopefully Yao comes back. Probably not a big chance obviously. I think the Kings would look to dump some salary like Garcia or Udrih, I hope not on Garcia though, we need to keep him as a starter!

I'm pretty sure whatever deal it would be would not include any other major pieces like Brooks. If it does JT goes the other way I'd bet.

Post #14 » by **ICMTM** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:27 am

^ LOL

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Why would the Kings trade Dalembert's expiring just for Yao's expiring? If the Kings were so interested in Yao his value in free agency will be little to none. Just sign him outright. Trading for Yao Ming is like having a bidding war against yourself.

But...if we do trade for Yao we will trade away....Jason Thompson!

I just find all of this hilarious! Even if he comes back the dude has played more than 70 games once since 2004-05. Why trade for a guy now when you're just going to have to bid for him in 7-8 months to retain him?What do we gain by trading for any player who can't play now, and has the right to leave at season's end?

SacTownKings4Life · Post #15 » by **SacTownKings4Life** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:34 am

It figures that this would be the ONLY circumstance in which we could ever get a superstar player under contract...

Post #16 » by **KingInExile** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:48 am

This is like one of those conversations you would have with a sleazy car salesman...

Shopper: "I really am interested in that nice little sports car you have on display. Low mileage, runs great...what would I be looking at for that car?"

Salesman: "That one's a cherry...you've got great taste. You should look at this choice older model I have in the back. It has a few ding, but I know you'll love it!"

Shopper: "You talking about the one on blocks that has no doors, windshield, and the guy from the junkyard just walked away from?"

Salesman: "Well, you have to look at the opportunities with that one. It will never run out of gas."

Shopper: "But it doesn't even run!"

Salesman: "Minor detail...so you ready to trade in your 2010 BMW for this fine ride?"

Yeah...pretty much how I imagine the conversation going.

GTO · Post #17 » by **GTO** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:50 am

ICMTM wrote:^ LOL

[edit]

Why would the Kings trade Dalembert's expiring just for Yao's expiring? If the Kings were so interested in Yao his value in free agency will be little to none. Just sign him outright. Trading for Yao Ming is like having a bidding war against yourself.

But...if we do trade for Yao we will trade away....Jason Thompson!

I just find all of this hilarious! Even if he comes back the dude has played more than 70 games once since 2004-05. Why trade for a guy now when you're just going to have to bid for him in 7-8 months to retain him?What do we gain by trading for any player who can't play now, and has the right to leave at season's end?

Here's an explanation as to why you'd trade, say, Dalembert's expiring for Yao's expiring: you save a few million dollars.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/12/2 ... kings-cash

Of course, the wealthy Kings owners don't care about saving a couple million dollars, no?

SacKingZZZ · Post #18 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:31 am

ICMTM wrote:^ LOL

[edit]

Why would the Kings trade Dalembert's expiring just for Yao's expiring? If the Kings were so interested in Yao his value in free agency will be little to none. Just sign him outright. Trading for Yao Ming is like having a bidding war against yourself.

But...if we do trade for Yao we will trade away....Jason Thompson!

I just find all of this hilarious! Even if he comes back the dude has played more than 70 games once since 2004-05. Why trade for a guy now when you're just going to have to bid for him in 7-8 months to retain him?What do we gain by trading for any player who can't play now, and has the right to leave at season's end?

Because Yao's expiring will net the Kings close to 8 million in savings thanks to a good chunk of his contract being picked up by insurance. The other benefit is that there is a slight chance he tries to make a comeback, but in the end it's about saving more $$$ and nothing else.

SacKingZZZ · Post #19 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:33 am

GTO wrote:
ICMTM wrote:^ LOL

[edit]

Why would the Kings trade Dalembert's expiring just for Yao's expiring? If the Kings were so interested in Yao his value in free agency will be little to none. Just sign him outright. Trading for Yao Ming is like having a bidding war against yourself.

But...if we do trade for Yao we will trade away....Jason Thompson!

I just find all of this hilarious! Even if he comes back the dude has played more than 70 games once since 2004-05. Why trade for a guy now when you're just going to have to bid for him in 7-8 months to retain him?What do we gain by trading for any player who can't play now, and has the right to leave at season's end?

Here's an explanation as to why you'd trade, say, Dalembert's expiring for Yao's expiring: you save a few million dollars.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/12/2 ... kings-cash

Of course, the wealthy Kings owners don't care about saving a couple million dollars, no?

I'm sure they do, but a major reason why the Rockets can't expect much of anything back in a deal involving only Yao is that the Kings are already saving a ton of money by having the lowest payroll in the league. Could be enough to cover the cost of firing Westphal however. :wink:

Post #20 » by **ICMTM** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:27 pm

Why don't the Rockets keep Yao and his insurance policy then???? Duh! If the Rockets aren't going to be able to actually get any value for Ming then why would they want to trade him?

Nobody is trading for Yao the player unless they want to give away a player in a salary dump. Unless we're giving up Garcia/Beno/Dalembert (our only 'bad') contracts trading for him makes zero sense.