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Big Man Watch 

Post#1 » by Sports Arsenal » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:34 pm

What big man do you currently hope the Rockets are pursuing and how do you plan on them getting him here.

For example:

Andray Blatche
for
Trade Exception + Patterson

or

Extended Carl Landry
for
Trade Exception

or

Camby + Jackson + Livingston
for
Yao+ Brooks + Hill to CHA
Wallace to POR
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Post#2 » by x- » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:49 pm

1. Nene (in a blockbuster deal with Melo - Yao, Brooks, Patterson, Brad Miller, Budinger, two firsts going out, w/ some kind of third team involed)
2. Cousins (Brooks + Patterson/NY pick or something)

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Post#3 » by rocketsballin » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:12 pm

if we're gonna get a big w/ a long term contract, we have to get someone who can defend the paint, rebound, block shots, get garbage points. blatche isn't that guy, and he's offensive minded, we dont need more offense unless it's a superstar who can close games.

we also dont need guys w/ a long histroy of injuries like bynum.

i dunno the contracts off the top of my head, but guys like perkins, dalembert, gasol. the thing i dont like about nene is that he cant defend the paint by himeslf, he needs help.
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Post#4 » by B.Diddy » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:14 pm

What about Hassan Whiteside from Sac. the guy is a 7 footer a shot blocking machine and is only 21 plus he isnt playing right now so we could probly get him for nothing maybe Jarred Jefferies and Ish or JJ and another 2nd rounder


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Post#5 » by Aaron Brooks » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:26 pm

Robin Lopez, Hasheem Thabeet, Serge Ibaka
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Post#6 » by MaxRider » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:44 pm

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Post#7 » by Alex_De_Large » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:52 am

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Post#8 » by MaxRider » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:37 am

i want Aldridge but it's not possible
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Post#9 » by M4P » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:18 pm

Thompson is probably our best bet.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#10 » by x- » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:55 pm

B.Diddy wrote:What about Hassan Whiteside from Sac. the guy is a 7 footer a shot blocking machine and is only 21 plus he isnt playing right now so we could probly get him for nothing maybe Jarred Jefferies and Ish or JJ and another 2nd rounder


The Kings were thinking about taking Whiteside with their 5th pick and were more than happy to get him in the second round. I don't see them trading him anytime soon, unless a team overpays.
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Post#11 » by jwise44 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:19 am

we always have big men that distribute well(chuckwagon scola and miller are all efficient passers), it really helps our offense flow so we should find a good distributer....but were desperate for post defense and shotblocking

are there any big men that are available can both play defense and pass well?

-nene can pass and has a high bball iq but his post defense isnt spectacular and hell be really hard to trade for

-kaman can pass and he is a big body that can fill up the lane and he can block shots but hes having an off year...but that also can make him easier to trade for

-i like both blatche and mcgee but ive only seen them play a handful of times...blatche looked like a good offensive player and mcgee looked like a good defender and shotblocker but both seemed like they have a low bball iq...but i dont remember how well their passing was

-varejao seems like he can both pass and defend really well but i really really hate that guy
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Post#12 » by Aaron Brooks » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:26 am

^ Greg Monroe :-?
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Post#13 » by MaxRider » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:53 am

how about Yi?
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Post#14 » by Guy986 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:20 pm

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Pros:

-Legit 7 footer
-Proven productive Center(none of that potential crap)
-Only two yeasr left on his contract. With next year being locked out, he's basically an expiring.
-Good shot blocker/rebounder
-Has a jumpshot out to 18 feet(important for Adelman's system)
-Could be had for cheap due to down year and his backup Deandre Jordan playing well


Cons:

-Owed 12 million a year for two years
-Not a big black guy
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Post#15 » by x- » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:09 pm

Guy986 wrote:Cons:

-Owed 12 million a year for two years
-Not a big black guy

-Not know for his defense
-Injury prone
-Career loser (which violates your very own loser policy... cmon now.)

I just think you have to think bigger than second or third tier guys like Kaman, Igoudala, Varejao etc... especially if they're overpaid. The same goes for quick fixes like Camby or average prospects like Jason Thompson, Robin Lopez etc...

The team, as contrustructed as it is, is way too deep, we all know that. That fact that Yao has this big contract, which makes a nice trading piece due the fact the its partly insured and expiring, is the perfect opportunity to finally convert the assembled assets.
If your gonna make a trade, make a big one. Melo, Paul, Cousins. That's what you aim for and if you have to overpay a little, so be it. Aim for the sky. No more roleplayers.

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Post#16 » by Alex_De_Large » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:19 pm

Injury prone, thats right, we already had/have too many of them.
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Post#17 » by rocketsballin » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:52 am

seriously half of the guys here insist we take on more injury proners. it's like they're so used to injuries that they wanna make up a team full of injury proners.
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Post#18 » by Guy986 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:08 am

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Guy986 wrote:Cons:

-Owed 12 million a year for two years
-Not a big black guy

-Not know for his defense
-Injury prone
-Career loser (which violates your very own loser policy... cmon now.)

I just think you have to think bigger than second or third tier guys like Kaman, Igoudala, Varejao etc... especially if they're overpaid. The same goes for quick fixes like Camby or average prospects like Jason Thompson, Robin Lopez etc...

The team, as contrustructed as it is, is way too deep, we all know that. That fact that Yao has this big contract, which makes a nice trading piece due the fact the its partly insured and expiring, is the perfect opportunity to finally convert the assembled assets.
If your gonna make a trade, make a big one. Melo, Paul, Cousins. That's what you aim for and if you have to overpay a little, so be it. Aim for the sky. No more roleplayers.

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Excellent point. I almost forgot that he's a Clipper.
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Post#19 » by M4P » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:02 am

Adelman's bigs have always been known to:

-Pass
-Hit the occasional J
-Not be a dumbass

This describes the Lopez brothers perfectly.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#20 » by MaxRider » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:50 am

M4P wrote:Adelman's bigs have always been known to:

-Pass
-Hit the occasional J
-Not be a dumbass

This describes the Lopez brothers perfectly.

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