[Camelo Thread Part 6] - Update: NJ tries again Pg. 71

[BLACKFEET 2010]

No surprise Nets backing off Carmelo Anthony. Source told FanHouse last week he doesn't want to sign Nets extension & there's been no change
http://twitter.com/christomasson

[god shammgod]

Just a thought ... If Denver asks for a price for Melo that the Nets will never accept, then it shows that they probably don't think Melo would say yes to New Jersey. In other words, if they make it so that the Nets will never accept their asking price, then the world (i.e., the Knicks) will never find out that he is not going to agree to sign a contract extension with the Nets.

By not getting a deal done with the Nets, they can keep the illusion that a) he might still go to the Nets if a deal can be agreed to eventually, and b) their asking price is high (which may or may not be an illusion but it at least keeps their demands high for now).

i've always believed they're using the nets. i think they know there's little to no chance melo would go there.

[god shammgod]

If getting 'Melo means having to take Harrington back for 4 more years... then 'Melo can Stay_TFO

i would do it. if that lowers the price, who cares, let him rot on the bench. or you give him 10 minutes a game. he's better then bill walker.

[knicks742]

If getting 'Melo means having to take Harrington back for 4 more years... then 'Melo can Stay_TFO

i would do it. if that lowers the price, who cares, let him rot on the bench. or you give him 10 minutes a game. he's better then bill walker.

We complain we don't have enough offense off the bench. Getting Harrington back for 25 mpg would help that. Although I do crinch at getting him back, I think it would be different since his role would not be the same as in previous years, he is simply here to keep the second unit afloat. Or at least I keep telling myself this to make this more palatable.

[god shammgod]

If getting 'Melo means having to take Harrington back for 4 more years... then 'Melo can Stay_TFO

i would do it. if that lowers the price, who cares, let him rot on the bench. or you give him 10 minutes a game. he's better then bill walker.

We complain we don't have enough offense off the bench. Getting Harrington back for 25 mpg would help that. Although I do crinch at getting him back, I think it would be different since his role would not be the same as in previous years, he is simply here to keep the second unit afloat. Or at least I keep telling myself this to make this more palatable.

i agree but even if it didn't work out it doesn't matter. with melo & amare we're going to be over the cap for the next 4 years anyway. it doesn't really matter how much over.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Just a thought ... If Denver asks for a price for Melo that the Nets will never accept, then it shows that they probably don't think Melo would say yes to New Jersey. In other words, if they make it so that the Nets will never accept their asking price, then the world (i.e., the Knicks) will never find out that he is not going to agree to sign a contract extension with the Nets.

By not getting a deal done with the Nets, they can keep the illusion that a) he might still go to the Nets if a deal can be agreed to eventually, and b) their asking price is high (which may or may not be an illusion but it at least keeps their demands high for now).

i've always believed they're using the nets. i think they know there's little to no chance melo would go there.

Donnie knows it and he basically aired them out the other day when he said "Billy is looking to rebuild through the draft". The thing that kills me is Billy King is a vet GM, he should know he's being used. Even the fanbase feels they are being played with and have no serious chance at acquiring Melo. The majority of them have all but conceded that Melo will be a Knick one way or another. Maybe Proky doesn't get it and has told BK to get Melo at all costs....and BK is just "doing his job" with his fruitless conversations w/Nugget brass. Maybe this is why Rod Thorn wanted out. The rumor at the time he left the Nets was Proky wanted to trade the farm for CP3 who at the time looked poised for a move. Maybe this dude is more James Dolan than he is Mark Cuban.

[sol537]

i agree but even if it didn't work out it doesn't matter. with melo & amare we're going to be over the cap for the next 4 years anyway. it doesn't really matter how much over.

You've just vanquished that evil ninja turtle to the far ends of middle earth, through great sacrifice and loss. Don't let those sacrifices be in vain!

[Jitpal]

Just a thought ... If Denver asks for a price for Melo that the Nets will never accept, then it shows that they probably don't think Melo would say yes to New Jersey. In other words, if they make it so that the Nets will never accept their asking price, then the world (i.e., the Knicks) will never find out that he is not going to agree to sign a contract extension with the Nets.

By not getting a deal done with the Nets, they can keep the illusion that a) he might still go to the Nets if a deal can be agreed to eventually, and b) their asking price is high (which may or may not be an illusion but it at least keeps their demands high for now).

Donnie has been through this sort of thing so many times. I can't imagine something like this even working on him. Isiah or Layden, sure. Donnie will get it done on his terms. I got faith. -Jitpal

[NYman15]

I'm curious how far Walsh will go to get melo? Any ideas? I want to know what you guys think he will do not what you guys think he should do but how far do you think Walsh is willing go?

[K_ick_God]

No surprise Nets backing off Carmelo Anthony. Source told FanHouse last week he doesn't want to sign Nets extension & there's been no change
http://twitter.com/christomasson

This guy had never before reported that Melo is not going to the Nets. So it's confirmation of the Berger and Sheridan reports. If I'm the Nets, I wouldn't be confident that there's too much of a chance, let's just say that.

[Jitpal]

If getting 'Melo means having to take Harrington back for 4 more years... then 'Melo can Stay_TFO

i would do it. if that lowers the price, who cares, let him rot on the bench. or you give him 10 minutes a game. he's better then bill walker.

We complain we don't have enough offense off the bench. Getting Harrington back for 25 mpg would help that. Although I do crinch at getting him back, I think it would be different since his role would not be the same as in previous years, he is simply here to keep the second unit afloat. Or at least I keep telling myself this to make this more palatable.

It really shouldn't be too bad. He gave the Knicks about 18/6 last year off the bench in about 30MPG. His problem was always efficiency. You figure with defenses keying in on Amare and Melo, he would be able to get better but fewer shots. Meaning if he is playing well, he should provide a good spark. If he isn't playing well in that particular game, his impact could be somewhat mitigated by Amare and Melo around him. -Jitpal

[AllanHoustonFan]

No surprise Nets backing off Carmelo Anthony. Source told FanHouse last week he doesn't want to sign Nets extension & there's been no change
http://twitter.com/christomasson

This guy had never before reported that Melo is not going to the Nets. So it's confirmation of the Berger and Sheridan reports. If I'm the Nets, I wouldn't be confident that there's too much of a chance, let's just say that.

Wasn't that guy a former beat writer for the Nuggets?

[sol537]

I still think D'antoni would prefer not to trade Gallo in any 'Melo deal and Donnie would personally want to hold on to Fields. With that said, I think Denver would accept the following and that Donnie will pull the trigger in order to achieve his "home run" goal of getting two superstar type players in NY:

NY Trades -> Curry, Gallo, Fields, Randolph (or 1st), $3 Million
Denver Trades -> 'Melo (extended)

That's really the best we can offer and more than fair given the circumstances.

[GONYK]

I still think D'antoni would prefer not to trade Gallo in any 'Melo deal and Donnie would personally want to hold on to Fields. With that said, I think Denver would accept the following and that Donnie will pull the trigger in order to achieve his "home run" goal of getting two superstar type players in NY:

NY Trades -> Curry, Gallo, Fields, Randolph (or 1st), $3 Million
Denver Trades -> 'Melo (extended)

That's really the best we can offer and more than fair given the circumstances.

If Fields is going, we are getting more than just Melo back

[AllanHoustonFan]

I still think D'antoni would prefer not to trade Gallo in any 'Melo deal and Donnie would personally want to hold on to Fields. With that said, I think Denver would accept the following and that Donnie will pull the trigger in order to achieve his "home run" goal of getting two superstar type players in NY:

NY Trades -> Curry, Gallo, Fields, Randolph (or 1st), $3 Million
Denver Trades -> 'Melo (extended)

That's really the best we can offer and more than fair given the circumstances.

If Fields is going, we are getting more than just Melo back

I agree. If Fields is gone then give me Affalo.

[NYman15]

I wouldn't mind Harrington back he could be a scorn threat off the bench and be that 6th man for the team a few years ago he was in the running for the award

[duetta]

NY Trades -> Curry, Gallo, Fields, Randolph (or 1st), $3 Million
Denver Trades -> 'Melo (extended)

That's really the best we can offer and more than fair given the circumstances.

I'm not offering Fields. Denver just doesn't have the leverage. I can just trade Randolph for the cap space to sign Melo this summer, pick up a #1 or so, and still try to facilate a S&T with Chandler.

[GONYK]

I wouldn't mind Harrington back he could be a scorn threat off the bench and be that 6th man for the team a few years ago he was in the running for the award

He will definitely draw a lot of scorn. No question about that.

[Jitpal]

I still think D'antoni would prefer not to trade Gallo in any 'Melo deal and Donnie would personally want to hold on to Fields. With that said, I think Denver would accept the following and that Donnie will pull the trigger in order to achieve his "home run" goal of getting two superstar type players in NY:

NY Trades -> Curry, Gallo, Fields, Randolph (or 1st), $3 Million
Denver Trades -> 'Melo (extended)

That's really the best we can offer and more than fair given the circumstances.

If Fields is going, we are getting more than just Melo back

I agree. If Fields is gone then give me Affalo.

Afflalo is having a pretty good year and likely has similar trade value to Fields right now. I doubt you can swap the two. I do, however, think that if Fields is part of the deal the Knicks MUST get a SG because Bill Walker and Roger Mason is not going to cut it. -Jitpal

[knicks742]

Well based on the summary of the Walsh interview today in that other thread it seems that he is not going trade everyone for Melo. It appears he is holding steady to whatever his original offer was.