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Post#1 » by jman3134 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:52 am

I guess I will limit my mock drafts to one thread. About 15 minutes ago, I just got finished with arguably the most time-intensive mock draft I have ever done. It is a full mock with explanations and assumptions. Please tell me what you think.

1. Kyrie Irving- Irving began the season on a tear for the top team in the country. Prior to his injury, he played under control and well beyond his years. He possesses a mastery of the change-of-pace dribble, similar to NBA guard Chris Paul. Also, he has shot well from beyond the arc.
2. Perry Jones- Jones is a 6'11 wing that can dribble and hit the outside shot. He is willing to tip back shots and grab rebounds inside. Also, he is arguably one of the best athletes in this draft.
3. Jonas Valanciunas- This physical specimen is garnering all sorts of attention for his performances in Euroleague this season. While his post game could use some work on both ends, he has a 7'6 wingspan and utilizes this for offensive rebounding and defensive purposes.
4. Kemba Walker- Walker has been a revelation this season. He is scoring efficiently due to his perfected shooting touch, and distributing the ball. Walker has been a defensive nightmare all season, as he is virtually unstoppable off the dribble.
5. Jared Sullinger- The NCAA's most impressive freshman big man has been a dominant presence on the low block. The only reasons that he will not be picked higher are his defensive limitations, and lack of a consistent face up game at this point.
6. Enes Kanter- Kanter is a skilled big man with an excellent post game. Whether or not he declares for the draft or waits to play at UK is still in question.
7. Jan Vesely- Vesely is a tremendous European athlete with outstanding physical tools. He may be able to play small forward at 6'11.
8. John Henson- While he does still have room to develop his post game, Henson has the agility and athleticism to really become a solid NBA big man. He has added weight to his thin frame this season, and now plays stronger and is more effective on the glass.
9. Harrison Barnes- Barnes has been a disappointment for the most part because of his lack of efficiency shooting the basketball. With that said, he still has intriguing physical tools, and the basketball IQ and work ethic to improve upon them.
10. Terrence Jones- Jones has been the catalyst behind UK's success this year. This face up big man can shoot the ball or take his man off the dribble. His stock has slipped due to inconsistent play recently, and the fact that he does not have a defined position defensively.
11. Donatas Motiejunas- This skilled big man has improved his physicality. He is effective shooting from virtually anywhere on the floor, making him one of the most dangerous weapons in this draft.
12. Chris Singleton- Singleton is a combo forward that can guard virtually any position on the floor. He does a decent job attacking the basket and is very aggressive on the boards. Singleton has extended his range this season, but must work to develop his shot off the dribble.
13. Derrick Williams- Williams has been one of the more impressive prospects all season long. Not only is he extremely physical and athletic in the post, but he also has become a serious threat as an outside shooter as well.
14. Jeff Taylor- Taylor is a world class athlete that has extended his range, and added some bulk to his frame. He is also a ball stopper on the other end of the floor.
15. Tristan Thompson- Thompson has been one of the biggest reasons for Texas' success this season. He is a physical athlete with a developing post game and promise on the defensive end as well.
16. Marcus Morris- Morris is one of the most complete players in this draft. He has extended his range this year, and is comfortable hitting the perimeter jump shot.
17. Josh Selby- Selby is one of the more dynamic, young slashing guards in the country. While he projects as a combo guard at this point, he will have to look to involve his teammates more in order to increase his draft stock.
18. Kris Joseph- Joseph is rather quietly having an excellent season for his undefeated Syracuse squad. After beginning the season in a slump, Joseph is demonstrating an improved three point shot. He has continued to bring world class athleticism in transition and intensity on defense- both of which have been pivotal parts of the Orange's success this season.
19. Nolan Smith- While he may always be thought of as a scorer first and foremost, Nolan Smith has refined his ability to play point guard. He is the savvy backcourt leader of the best team in the country right now.
20. Kawhi Leonard- Leonard has been the most valuable piece for arguably the best mid major team in the country. While he does need to refine his perimeter game, Leonard is an excellent athlete that is the best small rebounder in the country.
21. Trey Thompkins- Thompkins is a skilled big man that can score inside and out. He does lack a quick first step, and this has limited his draft stock.
22. Scotty Hopson- Hopson has all the physical tools to be the best wing in this draft. He must improve his consistency from beyond the arc, and on pull up jump shots. However, he is a menacing presence on the defensive end due to his lateral quickness and length. Additionally, he is more explosive attacking off the dribble this season.
23. Brandon Knight- While Knight is one of the more promising young guards in this draft, he does hold a shoot-first mentality, which limits him as a draft prospect. Additionally, scouts will be looking for him to improve his decision making over the course of the season.
24. Jordan Hamilton- Hamilton is one of the elite perimeter shooters in this draft. He must continue to improve his decision making on both ends of the floor.
25. Kyle Singler- Singler is one of the more proven prospects in this draft class. He is a capable, albeit streaky shooter, that can hurt an opposing team inside as well as on the perimeter. While he does lack the elite explosiveness of an NBA small forward, Singler has the basketball savvy to compensate.
26. Alec Burks- Burks is a smooth athlete with a decent handle. He can attack the basket with decent athleticism. With that said, Burks still must improve as a decision maker.
27. Bojan Bogdanovic- He is a diversified scorer that can attack the basket rather consistently. However, he is not quick enough to defend at the NBA level just yet.
28. Jajuan Johnson- Johnson has molded himself into one of the more skilled big men in this draft. He is a capable post player inside that relies predominantly on half hooks. His footwork has improved considerably over his four years though. Also, Johnson does have a faceup jumper from the mid range. Defensively, his impressive length will cause headaches for the opposition.
29. Kenneth Faried- Faried is arguably the best rebounding prospect in this draft class. He is aggressive on the glass and on the defensive end of the floor.
30. Elias Harris- Harris is a strong combo forward that is aggressive inside. This season, however, his perimeter shot is not falling. His lack of accuracy from the perimeter may inhibit his ability to transition to the NBA wing slot.


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Post#2 » by Jazzfan12 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 12:25 am

Donatas is a bit too low I think, Kemba a bit too high.
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Post#3 » by Kirsten19 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 4:02 am

Terrence Jones will be a top 5 for sure
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Post#4 » by jman3134 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 4:17 am

Donatas is a bit too low I think, Kemba a bit too high.


Sort of a fair criticism. Not sold on Donatas as a post presence/having a defined position to defend. Kemba has been great all season. His height is a limiting factor, but his handle and first step are unmatched in this draft imo.
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Post#5 » by jman3134 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 4:18 am

Kirsten19 wrote:Terrence Jones will be a top 5 for sure


He is struggling lately. Also, I think that he is overrated as a draft prospect, as he is somewhat of a tweener.
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Post#6 » by princeofpalace » Thu Jan 6, 2011 2:29 pm

Barnes isnt living up to expectation but he will still likely go top 4 based on name recognition & prior hype.

Jan Vesley is way too high IMO, he is really just an athletic energy player who isn't very skilled, I don't see him as a top 10 pick. Also, he has a pretty big buy out so he's not even a guy who will come over right away which should damage his stock further.
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Post#7 » by Cammo101 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 3:30 pm

The Jeff Taylor ship has pretty much sailed. He has not really improved and at this point likely will never sniff a first round.

Also, the team that takes Kemba Walker over some of those guys you have behind him is going to be a very sad team. Walker is a nice player, but how his game will translate at the next level is a mystery still. All we really know is that the kid can flat score.
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Post#8 » by brassviews » Thu Jan 6, 2011 6:35 pm

With Lietuvos Rytas in second round of EL, Valanciunas' stock will only go up. If he continues to play well, he can go as high as number #1. Will he? Probably not since EL doesn't get enough U.S. coverage. Likely, Jones, Irving, or Sullinger will go #1. Now, if Toronto or Minny end up with #1 pick, then I could see either one taking him. That is of course if they continue their losing. 8-)

Regarding Motiejunas, I would actually put Bogdanovic above him. I think Bogdanovic's game is more suited for NBA than Motiejunas'. But again, most people will go off of potential rather than skill.
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Post#9 » by jman3134 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 8:10 pm

brassviews wrote:With Lietuvos Rytas in second round of EL, Valanciunas' stock will only go up. If he continues to play well, he can go as high as number #1. Will he? Probably not since EL doesn't get enough U.S. coverage. Likely, Jones, Irving, or Sullinger will go #1. Now, if Toronto or Minny end up with #1 pick, then I could see either one taking him. That is of course if they continue their losing. 8-)

Regarding Motiejunas, I would actually put Bogdanovic above him. I think Bogdanovic's game is more suited for NBA than Motiejunas'. But again, most people will go off of potential rather than skill.


After watching him, that is why I have him as high as I do.

As for Motiejunas, I am not all that impressed with him, while he has made some major improvements. I would list him at his current spot just because some scouts are still intrigued with his potential, and are seeing that he put on weight.


Barnes isnt living up to expectation but he will still likely go top 4 based on name recognition & prior hype.

Jan Vesley is way too high IMO, he is really just an athletic energy player who isn't very skilled, I don't see him as a top 10 pick. Also, he has a pretty big buy out so he's not even a guy who will come over right away which should damage his stock further.


Barnes has done nothing to merit a first round pick, let alone a top 4 selection. I am generous by putting him in my top 10 despite the fact that he has flashed nothing but physical tools at this point. His stock should dip with the numbers he is putting up. His first step is not as quick as people had given him credit for in the past- something I could have told you from his high school days.

Your criticism of Vesely is fair. However, who would you put so far ahead of him? Who is more deserving?

The Jeff Taylor ship has pretty much sailed. He has not really improved and at this point likely will never sniff a first round.

Also, the team that takes Kemba Walker over some of those guys you have behind him is going to be a very sad team. Walker is a nice player, but how his game will translate at the next level is a mystery still. All we really know is that the kid can flat score.


I disagree with you considerably about Jeff Taylor. How has he not improved this year? He has added pounds of muscle and now is more equipped to utilize his well known athleticism when slashing to the basket. You are absolutely kidding yourself if you do not think this guy has improved at all. Just watching him, he more than passes the eye test. Then, you can see that he has put in work on his shot. He's currently 6th in the SEC in TS%. He went from shooting 9% from beyond the arc a year ago with limited attempts, to shooting 42% this year taking about 4 of those shots per game. I would say that is a pretty drastic improvement.

No one man is as important to his team as Kemba Walker is to UConn right now- with the exception of maybe Jimmer Fredette. There is no way teams will be disappointed because they know exactly what they are getting. He has perfected virtually everything on the offensive end, from passing to hitting midrange pull up jump shots. His change of pace is just at another level right now, and his first step is up there with the elite point guards of the NBA. The only knock on him is something he can't control- his height.
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Post#10 » by Kirsten19 » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:00 am

Well, I really rate Valanciunas even though I don't think he'll be a top 3 pick

he may not declare for the upcoming draft anyway.
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Post#11 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Jan 8, 2011 7:06 pm

Think you have Burks and Brandon Knight way too low. Kemba a little too high, same with Valanciunas.

Also think if Triston Thompson declares it means he's lotto.
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Post#12 » by Kirsten19 » Sat Jan 8, 2011 8:58 pm

well, draftexpress has Valanciunas projected as 3rd pick overall, i also think its possible
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Post#13 » by jman3134 » Sat Jan 8, 2011 9:18 pm

The reason why I have him so high is not because he has done anything dramatic recently to merit moving up the boards. Rather, I am not all that impressed with the top of this draft.
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Post#14 » by Jazzfan12 » Sat Jan 8, 2011 10:13 pm

I don't think Barnes has even shown physical tools at this point. He has so little explosiveness even at the college level.
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Post#15 » by jman3134 » Sun Jan 9, 2011 4:28 am

You're right- his first step is very underwhelming, and I recognized this at the high school level. The thing is that he is going to be a lot better when he can learn to absorb contact. He isn't finishing on some easy baskets right now. Also, he has been in a shooting slump- he is capable of hitting from beyond the arc at 6'8. He's also a decent run-jump athlete, and can push it in transition.
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Post#16 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jan 9, 2011 7:25 am

Barnes has looked flatout terrible in basically every game I've seen him in, I don't see the hype.
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Post#17 » by jman3134 » Sun Jan 9, 2011 6:00 pm

Most of it is on him. With that said, UNC certainly has not used him properly.

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