2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Saciid11]

If we want young small farward with allot of potential and game then why not just wait till the summer to sign Thaddeus Young and hope that Philly doesn't match.... or trade Weems + Miam's pick for Thaddeus Young ...

If Raps want to play uptempo game with Bargnani as their starting center then Thaddeus Young is the perfect Small forward... athletic freak, plays big, above average rebounder for small forward, good defender at the 3/4....

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[Wasp]

I think that you would have to sweeten the pot on a McGee trade - Although the trade works salary wise, both Yi and Thorton are expiring and the wizards already have Barbosa in Hinrich and the trade for Rashard Lewis makes both Yi and Thorton redundant.

I do like the idea of trying to get McGee - the incident with Blatche may make him easier to get but I think it would have to be:

Derozan - Davis - Barbosa

for

McGee - Hinrich - Seraphin or Booker

We keep our pick -
swap Barbosa and Hinrich - Washington gets speed Toronto gets shooting
Toronto gets the mobile big man (year older than Demar and Davis)- Averaging almost a double double in reduced minutes - He is now the player that people hope Davis grows into.
Washington gets two young players with potential.

That's a terrible trade for us IMO. I do like McGee, but not if we're giving up both Davis and DeRozan. The last thing we need to be doing is prospect for prospect trades, we need to stockpile young assets and try to build long-term instead of playing musical chairs.

[zilby]

Daly's venting about his role, Peja for Daly, maybe?

We get a serviceable big rather than a not playing Stojak.

[Rapsobsessed7]

an ideal world would be.

To TOR: Flynn + S.Williams
To MIN: Randolph + Calderon
To NYK: Telfair + MIA 1st + UTA 1st.

that way we save enough to have max cap room next year, get younger at the PG spot.

But i doubt the wolves are interested in that so back to realistic deals.

1) To Toronto: Bibby + Pachulia + Williams
To Atlanta: Calderon + Dorsey + Klezia

then

2) To Toronto: Flynn + Koufos
To Minnesota: Miami 1st + Evans

because this has to be in 2 parts right now..

To Toronto: Min 2nd
To Minnesota: Bayless

Flynn / Bibby
Derozan / Barbosa
Williams / Weems / Wright
Johnson / Davis / Koufos
Bargnani / Pachulia / Alabi

then next season you add a high draft pick like Perry Jones/Terrence Jones/Brandon Knight/Harrison Barnes and you could still draft a PG behind Flynn have a 1/2 punch.

Reason i say you could draft a PG still is because you have cap space to go after a Jeff Green at SF or someone like that who can play both PF and SF.

[RocLaFamilia]

TOR SENDS: weems, reggie, jose, klieza
TOR GETS: D. Jordan, Shaun L, Diaw, 1st Round pick

CHA SENDS: Diaw, Shaun L, Matt Caroll, Ed Najera + 1st Round Pick
CHA GETS: Klieza, BD, Gomes

LA SENDS: D. Jordan, BD, GOMES
LA GETS: Jose, Weems, Reggie, Matt C, E Najera

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2e7tpwz

[HomieOmey]

Here's an idea. We might need to throw Miami's pick to the Kings...

Raptors trade: Kleiza, Barbosa, and Evans
Raptors get: Caron Butler (useless ending deal) + Garcia (same basic contract as Kleiza)

Toronto opens up max salary cap for next summer. This trade forces Triano to let the young guys develop. Garcia improves our perimeter D.

Mavs trade: Butler
Mavs get: Kleiza + $5 mill trade exception

Kleiza does one thing well, score. I'm guessing he would be a much nicer fit with Dallas than with us. He would definitely know his role playing with Kidd and Dirk. They need offense with Butler out.

Kings trade: Garcia
Kings get: Barbosa and Evans

Evans can provide some leadership. Barbosa helps their backcourt and trims a year off Garcia's deal. Evans could be a great influence on Cousins. He has definitely shown leadership skills in Toronto.

[itbobby007]

Here's an idea. We might need to throw Miami's pick to the Kings...

Raptors trade: Kleiza, Barbosa, and Evans
Raptors get: Caron Butler (useless ending deal) + Garcia (same basic contract as Kleiza)

Toronto opens up max salary cap for next summer. This trade forces Triano to let the young guys develop. Garcia improves our perimeter D.

Mavs trade: Butler
Mavs get: Kleiza + $5 mill trade exception

Kleiza does one thing well, score. I'm guessing he would be a much nicer fit with Dallas than with us. He would definitely know his role playing with Kidd and Dirk. They need offense with Butler out.

Kings trade: Garcia
Kings get: Barbosa and Evans

Evans can provide some leadership. Barbosa helps their backcourt and trims a year off Garcia's deal. Evans could be a great influence on Cousins. He has definitely shown leadership skills in Toronto.

I haven't ran the numbers for the above, but if they are all correct, this is fantastic IMO even with losing the MIA pick. I think the pick has to go to DAL BTW.

[bboyskinnylegs]

How about one of Weems/Alabi/Dorsey (whoever the Bucks want) for CDR? He's a legit SF, very athletic, can handle the ball well/create his own shot, is shooting well (45% from the field, 44.3% from 3), and most importantly defends well. I'd love to move Kleiza in another deal and run CDR/Wright at SF for the rest of the season. Hopefully one or both of them pan out and are worth keeping, otherwise they both expire and we can look to the draft/free agency to improve at SF (T.Jones/P.Jones/Barnes/Vesely/Thaddeus Young/Wilson Chandler/Jeff Green). I would even consider dealing the Miami pick for him straight up (although obviously I would prefer just trading one of the above mentioned players instead).

Bargs/Dorsey?
Amir/Davis
CDR/Wright
DD/Barbosa
Jose/Bayless

[HomieOmey]

Here's an idea. We might need to throw Miami's pick to the Kings...

Raptors trade: Kleiza, Barbosa, and Evans
Raptors get: Caron Butler (useless ending deal) + Garcia (same basic contract as Kleiza)

Toronto opens up max salary cap for next summer. This trade forces Triano to let the young guys develop. Garcia improves our perimeter D.

Mavs trade: Butler
Mavs get: Kleiza + $5 mill trade exception

Kleiza does one thing well, score. I'm guessing he would be a much nicer fit with Dallas than with us. He would definitely know his role playing with Kidd and Dirk. They need offense with Butler out.

Kings trade: Garcia
Kings get: Barbosa and Evans

Evans can provide some leadership. Barbosa helps their backcourt and trims a year off Garcia's deal. Evans could be a great influence on Cousins. He has definitely shown leadership skills in Toronto.

I haven't ran the numbers for the above, but if they are all correct, this is fantastic IMO even with losing the MIA pick. I think the pick has to go to DAL BTW.

The Kings are quite a bit under the cap, so it works. And Evans expires at the end of the season, so its not like it effects their cap space while it gives them a bigger trade asset than Garcia who expires a year earlier. He should also be a nicer fit with both Evans and Udrih.

As for the Mavs, I'm not sure they can ask for more this year. They cut salary and get a pretty solid scorer. What other scorers are available for an ending deal? And its not like Kleiza's deal some huge poison. Pretty small price to pay to keep them in contention this year. Denver loved him, he's just not the type of player for a rebuilding team. This trade allows them to keep a reasonable talent this season while still having the MLE to spend next summer.

But sure, whoever wants the Miami pick can have it. With our own pick and our cap space we should be able to add two pretty solid young players. You can only use so many young players, so it would probably be smarter for us to add cheap veterans than another rookie who wouldn't be given much of a chance.

[Rapsobsessed7]

what about

To TOR: Henry + Thabeet + Allen
To MEM: Barbosa + Dorsey + Wright + MIami pick + Option to swap with TOR pick (top 5 protected)

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Henry / Allen
Klezia / Weems / Peja
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Thabeet / Alabi

[NH]

what about

To TOR: Henry + Thabeet + Allen
To MEM: Barbosa + Dorsey + Wright + MIami pick + Option to swap with TOR pick (top 5 protected)

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Henry / Allen
Klezia / Weems / Peja
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Thabeet / Alabi

All tades with the Grizz start and end with Mayo... no Mayo, dun care.

[flatjacket1]

Toronto receives:
Elton Brand
2011 PHI 1st round draft pick
2011 PHI 2nd round draft pick

Philly receives:
Peja
2013 TOR 2nd round pick
Cash considerations

____________________________________

Minny receives:
Sonny Weems
4.275M TPE
3.192M TPE
Cash considerations

Toronto receives:
Johnny Flynn
Pekovic

2011 MIN 1st round draft pick (Top 3 protected)
OR
2011 MIN 2nd round draft pick + 2012 MIN 2nd round draft pick
OR
2011 MIN 1st round draft pick (Top 10 protected) + 2012 MIN 2nd round draft pick

___________________________

Charlotte receives:
Bayless
6.4M TPE
Cash considerations

Toronto receives:
DJ Augustine
Diop

2011 CHA 1st round draft pick (Top 5 protected)
OR
2011 CHA 1st round draft pick (Lottery protected) + 2012 CHA 2nd round draft pick

After all:

Toronto receives:
Diop
D.J. Augustine
Johnny Flynn
Elton Brand
Pekovic
2011 PHI first round draft pick
2011 MIN 1st round draft pick (Top 3 protected)
2011 CHA 1st round draft pick (Top 5 protected)
2011 PHI 2nd round draft pick

Toronto sends:
Sonny Weems
Bayless
Peja
Cash
Majority of TPE
2013 TOR 2nd round draft pick

[Ogopogo]

Raptors trade: Kleiza, Barbosa, and Evans
Raptors get: Caron Butler (useless ending deal) + Garcia (same basic contract as Kleiza)

Mavs trade: Butler
Mavs get: Kleiza + $5 mill trade exception

Kings trade: Garcia
Kings get: Barbosa and Evans

It's a pretty good trade for every team, but as far as i know, you're not allowed to use TPE with another player.

[Boner Champ]

Bargnani & Calderon to Minny for Wellington, Brewer, Telfair, rights to Rubio, 2011 first (top-5 protected) (Works in Trade Checker)

We give Minny the two best players by a mile, and I think Bargnani and Love would be monsters together (well, on the Offensive side). Would provide the Wolves with an immediate talent-injection to please Love.

For the Raps, Of course we get Rubio and a pretty high pick. Wellington is the only one with guaranteed money next year, and its only 1.1 million, so we'd save nearly 18 million in salaries (minus Rubio and the pick). We'd have huge capspace to go after one of the several key RFA Centers - Horford, Noah, Gasol. We'd have to overpay, but at least one of those teams would not match a significant offer.

Additional bonus - our team could play all & develop all our young'uns and still lose a pile of games.

Potential Lineup for 2011-12:

Rubio/Bayless
DeRozen/Barbosa
Barnes/Kleiza
Davis/Johnson
Gasol/Minny Pick

We'd still lose a lot, but probably compete for playoffs and we'd have star potential at every position.

[Fairview4Life]

Minny isn't trading their pick and Rubio to get Bargs and Jose's contract.

[Boner Champ]

Minny isn't trading their pick and Rubio to get Bargs and Jose's contract.

Calderon has played up to his contract and Bargs' contract is a steal. Rubio is probably valued similar to a late top-10 pick or so, while their pick would be protected and with Bargs & Calderon they'd probably vault a few teams anyway. That's not that high a price for a star forward.

[Morris_Shatford]

Toronto receives:
Elton Brand
2011 PHI 1st round draft pick
2011 PHI 2nd round draft pick

Philly receives:
Peja
2013 TOR 2nd round pick
Cash considerations

Rumour was that something similar was offered around the draft to try and unload Brand.
However Brand over the last month or so has been better then the buswreck of seasons past.

He is rebounding, he steals are up, his turnovers are down.
Not anywhere worth his contract, but better.

I would consider the above deal simply hoping that next season was wiped out and we came back to a 17m dollar expiring deal.

[flatjacket1]

Rumour was that something similar was offered around the draft to try and unload Brand.
However Brand over the last month or so has been better then the buswreck of seasons past.

He is rebounding, he steals are up, his turnovers are down.
Not anywhere worth his contract, but better.

I would consider the above deal simply hoping that next season was wiped out and we came back to a 17m dollar expiring deal.

Yes, this is one of the reasons I used this scenario. Even though Brand has been playing much better (I've always liked him as a player, somewhat of a rich mans Reggie?) I'm still willing to bet Philly owners are willing to dump his contract. Its a LOT of money for a team that doesn't have unlimited resources. They would still pay a pick to part with him. Look at teams who dumped Al Jefferson for virtually nothing, they may be a little bit worse but unless hes playing to 90% of his contract, I can see a realistic chance of him being dropped.

He fits the role of the PF who Andrea needs to play beside.

Ahh yes, you understood another part of my logic. The changing CBA means one of two things: Salary rollbacks of 40%, or a missed season. If its the first option, our ownership can easily afford him for at least 1 more year and sign Demar to an extension. The second option, he becomes a very movable trading chip. Don't forget a faintly possible 3rd option of the union splitting and wiping out all existing contracts. I think this year poses a unique situation where if you took some risks, you could easily add vast amounts of assets.

Personally, the way I look at building this team is we need a lot of assets. Easiest way to get those is trade for bad contracts and picks, and when those contracts are expiring you have another opportunity to do the same. It speeds up the rebuilding process, not to mention this deal combined with a few others makes us playoff bound (Look at the embarrassing total of wins needed to get 8th)

[flatjacket1]

Raptors trade: Kleiza, Barbosa, and Evans
Raptors get: Caron Butler (useless ending deal) + Garcia (same basic contract as Kleiza)

Mavs trade: Butler
Mavs get: Kleiza + $5 mill trade exception

Kings trade: Garcia
Kings get: Barbosa and Evans

It's a pretty good trade for every team, but as far as i know, you're not allowed to use TPE with another player.

Although that is true, most trades involves multiple individual trades. As long as the salaries are close, if there's a will, there's a way. You will most likely see our TPE used in combination like above, but not all in 1 trade.

The Melo trade proposed is not 1 trade, its like 7 or 8.

[crosswalkryan]

Didn't want to start a new thread about this, but what about Nene?
Player option for next year, if Denver rebuilds he might decide to opt out and get a long term contract with bigger $$ in the face of a lockout. Turns 29 this summer...pretty solid stats, big physical low post presence.