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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#21 » by aIvin adams » Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:32 pm

Sundamental wrote:
aIvin adams wrote:start lopez as a 4 on offense. play small ball only if there's a 4/5 combo that lopez/GORTAT THE INDEFATIGIBLE can't guard. which won't be many, if any



Ones like Blake Griffin/anybody or DeMarcus Cousins/anybody? Yeh, we'd eat those guys up.


the list of players who can guard demarcus cousins better than gortat would be small. griffin might be too quick but the list of players who can guard him at all is even smaller..

TheMoochinator wrote:Neither Gortat nor Lopez really have a reliable mid-range jumper yet.


sometimes robin strokes it. if he can shoot a midrange jumper as well as PFs like scola or boozer then i would be satisfied with the other things he brings to the game

besides a lopez/gortat starting lineup, i want to see the suns tryyy a warrick/gortat lineup before they make moves
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#22 » by NiGhtWiSh » Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:36 pm

Gortat can not play PF at NBA level, mayby only at this moment of career. If he can, Magic will NEVER trade him. He can't hit a swimming pool from 15 ft... He's a pure, classic C who can be a Olajuwon-like monster. Post moves, picks, rebs, assists, great vertical, great speed. And great dirty bball - yeah, he's a padawan of Sith Lord - Patrick Ewing :) You remember all dirty tricks King Kong used in the paint ? :)
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#23 » by realsunsfan » Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:59 pm

Anybody think Brian Skinner can be of any use for the time being ?? Older, but athletic banger, good rebounder, very active good defender, offensively ?? He's decent around the post but we don't need much offensively from him........might be a decent temp solution.......
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#24 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jan 5, 2011 7:26 pm

Alvin Gentry has suggested that he's considering playing Marcin Gortat and Robin Lopez together against the Lakers on Wednesday "maybe really early."
The "maybe really early" line suggests that Gentry wouldn't play two traditional centers at the same time for very long. And regardless, Gortat has decisively emerged as the center to own in Phoenix, averaging 11.0 points, 6.3 rebounds, 1.5 blocks and 32 minutes in his last four games, a stretch that has seen Lopez average just 4.5 points and 2.3 rebounds in 12 minutes per game.

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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#25 » by SideSwipe » Thu Jan 6, 2011 3:21 am

Twin towers here we come.... from the pages of realgm to the court tonight...lol

I am sure they did it just for us....
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Post#26 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jan 6, 2011 12:31 pm

SideSwipe wrote:Twin towers here we come.... from the pages of realgm to the court tonight...lol

I am sure they did it just for us....


What else can Gentry do ?? This is an act of desperation that will clog the middle up, much to Los Soles dismay. A PF and C, both with minimal range.

Might as really F-them up and go with the Tri-Towers.....
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Post#27 » by nevetsov » Thu Jan 6, 2011 1:10 pm

We could play Lopez, gortat, frye, lawal and siler and still get out rebounded :p
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#28 » by Sundamental » Thu Jan 6, 2011 1:54 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:Twin towers here we come.... from the pages of realgm to the court tonight...lol

I am sure they did it just for us....


What else can Gentry do ?? This is an act of desperation that will clog the middle up, much to Los Soles dismay. A PF and C, both with minimal range.

Might as really F-them up and go with the Tri-Towers.....


What Gentry can do is play uptempo, three point shooting basketball. That's the ONLY hope for this team. It's obvious to all but the blind. We have no advantage playing any other style. Sure, the defense won't be great but we actually play better defense when we play uptempo. Our movement on offense get the defense hustling. He did that some last night but he's so inconsistent. He needs to do this regardless of how things are going on any one night. Make teams play to our style. Stop trying to play other teams game.
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#29 » by JasonDaPsycho » Thu Jan 6, 2011 2:07 pm

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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#30 » by NiGhtWiSh » Thu Jan 6, 2011 2:25 pm

Sundamental wrote:What Gentry can do is play uptempo, three point shooting basketball. That's the ONLY hope for this team. It's obvious to all but the blind. We have no advantage playing any other style. Sure, the defense won't be great but we actually play better defense when we play uptempo. Our movement on offense get the defense hustling. He did that some last night but he's so inconsistent. He needs to do this regardless of how things are going on any one night. Make teams play to our style. Stop trying to play other teams game.



Defence makes winners, not 3-pointers. Always and everywhere in basketball. With 3pts you can win a couple of games, if you are lucky. With defence, you win rings.
IMHO, things are turned in right direction - Suns starts to be a D-oriented team. It's a 1st step to be great team. Next step will be rebuilding, with Nash trade, maybe 1-2 other trades and Draft. It's the only way to start winning and push back to the finals.
I think that adding anybody else than a TOP 5 all-star to current roster will have no effect. And such a trade is impossible. So - we just have to trade Nash and wait for picks. And for new season. With new D-coach assistant. Maybe new head coach, too.
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#31 » by Sundamental » Thu Jan 6, 2011 2:42 pm

NiGhtWiSh wrote:
Sundamental wrote:What Gentry can do is play uptempo, three point shooting basketball. That's the ONLY hope for this team. It's obvious to all but the blind. We have no advantage playing any other style. Sure, the defense won't be great but we actually play better defense when we play uptempo. Our movement on offense get the defense hustling. He did that some last night but he's so inconsistent. He needs to do this regardless of how things are going on any one night. Make teams play to our style. Stop trying to play other teams game.



Defence makes winners, not 3-pointers. Always and everywhere in basketball. With 3pts you can win a couple of games, if you are lucky. With defence, you win rings.
IMHO, things are turned in right direction - Suns starts to be a D-oriented team. It's a 1st step to be great team. Next step will be rebuilding, with Nash trade, maybe 1-2 other trades and Draft. It's the only way to start winning and push back to the finals.
I think that adding anybody else than a TOP 5 all-star to current roster will have no effect. And such a trade is impossible. So - we just have to trade Nash and wait for picks. And for new season. With new D-coach assistant. Maybe new head coach, too.


Yeh, offense hasn't worked for the Suns in the past. They've only been to the WCF three of the last six years. Absolutely, offensive focus doesn't work. Read what I wrote on page one of this thread. Steve Nash is our strength. Until you trade Nash, the focus must be offensive. The defense will follow.
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#32 » by NiGhtWiSh » Thu Jan 6, 2011 3:01 pm

Sundamental wrote:
NiGhtWiSh wrote:
Sundamental wrote:What Gentry can do is play uptempo, three point shooting basketball. That's the ONLY hope for this team. It's obvious to all but the blind. We have no advantage playing any other style. Sure, the defense won't be great but we actually play better defense when we play uptempo. Our movement on offense get the defense hustling. He did that some last night but he's so inconsistent. He needs to do this regardless of how things are going on any one night. Make teams play to our style. Stop trying to play other teams game.



Defence makes winners, not 3-pointers. Always and everywhere in basketball. With 3pts you can win a couple of games, if you are lucky. With defence, you win rings.
IMHO, things are turned in right direction - Suns starts to be a D-oriented team. It's a 1st step to be great team. Next step will be rebuilding, with Nash trade, maybe 1-2 other trades and Draft. It's the only way to start winning and push back to the finals.
I think that adding anybody else than a TOP 5 all-star to current roster will have no effect. And such a trade is impossible. So - we just have to trade Nash and wait for picks. And for new season. With new D-coach assistant. Maybe new head coach, too.


Yeh, offense hasn't worked for the Suns in the past. They've only been to the WCF three of the last six years. Absolutely, offensive focus doesn't work. Any more good ideas to share? Read what I wrote on page one of this thread. Steve Nash is our strength. Until you trade Nash, the focus must be offensive. The defense will follow.



Tell me, please, how many times did Suns won world championship? Wow, impressive... Maybe for You a half-way stop on the ring-road means succes. But it's not. As well, as Nash isn't Suns strenght any more. And it will be going only worse...
Team is going in right direction. I'm sure. Wind of changes... Time of changes. Let's stop with pretty shooting and running. Let's be mature. Let's win!
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#33 » by SideSwipe » Thu Jan 6, 2011 5:33 pm

Frank and others wondering about twin towers and lane clogging need look no further than what numbers the LAL front line put up last night. We did not get the win due to some poor late-game execution, but lane clogging did not look like an issue last night. As expected one of the bigs plays out. last night it was Robin trying to work on his shot. Drives to the hoop were coming from the weakside, and what it did do is constantly give their bigs a tough job to do, which led to a couple of open easy three's for us by Duds and Carter. I hope we keep with the twin towers movement more to let the team flesh it out. If Robin can start making his elbow shot more consistently then it might really work...not to say I am not incessantly frustrated by him for not one-bouncing it and dunking over all of the inferior athletes in front of him, but such is life.
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Re: Solution without a PF? 

Post#34 » by realsunsfan » Thu Jan 6, 2011 7:48 pm

This may be the reason he has not played..

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