[Camelo Thread Part 6] - Update: NJ tries again Pg. 71

god shammgod · Post #1221 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 10:51 pm

whole lot of nothing here.

Post #1222 » by **nyknicks2k2** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 10:53 pm

Accurate description of the Nets attempts to land Carmelo:

Post #1223 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 10:56 pm

nyknicks2k2 wrote:Accurate description of the Nets attempts to land Carmelo:

lol

Way I see it, two things are true here:

1. Nets' attempt is desperate.

2. Melo may be so concerned about getting his extension that he goes to a poor, also-ran team. In other words, he might be as desperate as them. Match made in heaven, possibly.

But if Melo is NOT as desperate as the Nets, then he'll be a Knick. It really is as simple as that.

No reason to fret about it ... it's a character test and we'll get our answer soon. I would not have any regrets about losing a guy who is desperate enough to go to the Nets. Kind of a problem that solves itself, right?

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1224 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 10:58 pm

And this just in. Melo isn't being puppet-ed by his agents. that is a fact.

Tommy Dee

Post #1225 » by **knicks742** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:01 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:And this just in. Melo isn't being puppet-ed by his agents. that is a fact.

Tommy Dee

I have no idea what that means.

Jay10 · Post #1226 » by **Jay10** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:02 pm

L. Rose is chasing the money

god shammgod · Post #1227 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:04 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
nyknicks2k2 wrote:Accurate description of the Nets attempts to land Carmelo:

lol

Way I see it, two things are true here:

1. Nets' attempt is desperate.

2. Melo may be so concerned about getting his extension that he goes to a poor, also-ran team. In other words, he might be as desperate as them. Match made in heaven, possibly.

But if Melo is NOT as desperate as the Nets, then he'll be a Knick. It really is as simple as that.

No reason to fret about it ... it's a character test and we'll get our answer soon. I would not have any regrets about losing a guy who is desperate enough to go to the Nets. Kind of a problem that solves itself, right?

well amare left a western conference finalist for an unknown team full of young players for money. but truthfully i don't believe the money will be much different if he waits to come here. if they reduce salaries it will be across the board. if he goes to the nets he'll regret it in no time.

"all alone"

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1228 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:04 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
nyknicks2k2 wrote:Accurate description of the Nets attempts to land Carmelo:

lol

Way I see it, two things are true here:

1. Nets' attempt is desperate.

2. Melo may be so concerned about getting his extension that he goes to a poor, also-ran team. In other words, he might be as desperate as them. Match made in heaven, possibly.

But if Melo is NOT as desperate as the Nets, then he'll be a Knick. It really is as simple as that.

No reason to fret about it ... it's a character test and we'll get our answer soon. I would not have any regrets about losing a guy who is desperate enough to go to the Nets. Kind of a problem that solves itself, right?

Completely agree. If he comes here, then that's the guy we wanted. If not, we didn't want a guy more concerned with the extension and kick his ass four times a year. Enjoy newark.

Post #1229 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:07 pm

god shammgod wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
nyknicks2k2 wrote:Accurate description of the Nets attempts to land Carmelo:

lol

Way I see it, two things are true here:

1. Nets' attempt is desperate.

2. Melo may be so concerned about getting his extension that he goes to a poor, also-ran team. In other words, he might be as desperate as them. Match made in heaven, possibly.

But if Melo is NOT as desperate as the Nets, then he'll be a Knick. It really is as simple as that.

No reason to fret about it ... it's a character test and we'll get our answer soon. I would not have any regrets about losing a guy who is desperate enough to go to the Nets. Kind of a problem that solves itself, right?

well amare left a western conference finalist for an unknown team full of young players for money. but truthfully i don't believe the money will be much different if he waits to come here. if they reduce salaries it will be across the board. if he goes to the nets he'll regret it in no time.

"all alone"

Fair point about Amar'e. But he was going to a marquee franchise with a coach he was successful with. And there was additional cap space to add a guy like Felton.

Going to the Nets with Billups and Hamilton and no picks and very limited cap flexibility (actually none I believe) is a clear sellout if he pulls the trigger.

god shammgod · Post #1230 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:11 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
Fair point about Amar'e. But he was going to a marquee franchise with a coach he was successful with. And there was additional cap space to add a guy like Felton.

Going to the Nets with Billups and Hamilton and no picks and very limited cap flexibility (actually none I believe) is a clear sellout if he pulls the trigger.

it's definitely stupid. it's someone who's not aware of his options. which is why i always said he wouldn't go there.

Post #1231 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:16 pm

god shammgod wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
Fair point about Amar'e. But he was going to a marquee franchise with a coach he was successful with. And there was additional cap space to add a guy like Felton.

Going to the Nets with Billups and Hamilton and no picks and very limited cap flexibility (actually none I believe) is a clear sellout if he pulls the trigger.

it's definitely stupid. it's someone who's not aware of his options. which is why i always said he wouldn't go there.

There's no way that Melo is going to be forced to make $12M, $13M a year when a guy like Gay or Roy or the other Maxes, even lebron and Wade, are up at $18M. At the very least, Melo will be Grandfathered in. I feel very confident of that actually.

So in reality, Melo is not leaving any or any substantial money on the table. He'll get 105% of the final year of his contract for next season, at a minimum. I guarantee it.

Who knows if his greedy or stupid agents will tell him that. They don't care where he plays, so they just want their cash ASAP.

FieldsMedal · Post #1232 » by **FieldsMedal** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:29 pm

knicks742 wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:And this just in. Melo isn't being puppet-ed by his agents. that is a fact.

Tommy Dee

I have no idea what that means.

It means 'Melo himself is behind his stance. He isn't be influenced or talked into anything by his agent or management team.

Post #1233 » by **knicks742** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:53 pm

FieldsMedal wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:And this just in. Melo isn't being puppet-ed by his agents. that is a fact.

Tommy Dee

I have no idea what that means.

It means 'Melo himself is behind his stance. He isn't be influenced or talked into anything by his agent or management team.

I understood that, I mean what's his stand? Does that mean that he is willing to go to the Nets if they make the team slightly better?

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1234 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:57 pm

There was talk that his agent was pushing nj.

Post #1235 » by **duetta** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:57 pm

What about the Knicks? Aside from not having the pieces, there's something else now that will hurt their chances. This is Amar'e Stoudemire's team and no one likes that more than Stoudemire.

Out in Phoenix, before he laid waste to the Suns on Friday night, Stoudemire said the Knicks don't need a major piece.

"We don't really need much," he said.

Sounds like he's definitely not in favor adding a player whom he'd have to suddenly compete with for touches and shots.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... from_.html

roro · Post #1236 » by **roro** » Sat Jan 8, 2011 11:57 pm

knicks742 wrote:I understood that, I mean what's his stand? Does that mean that he is willing to go to the Nets if they make the team slightly better?

Slightly? Doubt it. It would have to be a significant change, which the Nets can't do since they would be trading all their assets for Melo. Melo wants to be in a situation where perhaps is better than Denver, while staying close his family. I simply can't see how RIP, Billups, and Melo can contend, and Melo isn't dumb he understands that.

Falstaffxx · Post #1237 » by **Falstaffxx** » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:02 am

roro wrote:
knicks742 wrote:I understood that, I mean what's his stand? Does that mean that he is willing to go to the Nets if they make the team slightly better?

Slightly? Doubt it. It would have to be a significant change, which the Nets can't do since they would be trading all their assets for Melo. Melo wants to be in a situation where perhaps is better than Denver, while staying close his family. I simply can't see how RIP, Billups, and Melo can contend, and Melo isn't dumb he understands that.

I don't get why Hamilton is even a factor. Afflalo is better than Hamilton so what the point? Fields is also better than Hamilton. This isn't 2004.

NYman15 · Post #1238 » by **NYman15** » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:03 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/08/chau ... -says-age/

Pharmcat · Post #1239 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:10 am

NYman15 wrote:http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/08/chauncey-billups-would-seek-buyout-if-traded-by-denver-says-age/

im surprised hed leave $$ on the table for next year

Post #1240 » by **kane2021** » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:11 am

duetta wrote:
What about the Knicks? Aside from not having the pieces, there's something else now that will hurt their chances. This is Amar'e Stoudemire's team and no one likes that more than Stoudemire.

Out in Phoenix, before he laid waste to the Suns on Friday night, Stoudemire said the Knicks don't need a major piece.

"We don't really need much," he said.

Sounds like he's definitely not in favor adding a player whom he'd have to suddenly compete with for touches and shots.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... from_.html

This is something I have had in the back of my mind honestly. Always wrote it off because of their friendship. But its something I have thought about.