Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[Roscoe Sheed]

I really wish that trade would go thru. I wouldnt be scared of Jersey at all. 2 corpses starting plus no defense down low.

who are the 2 corpses?

You can't be talking about Rip and Chauncey. Yes, they are both past their primes, but they can still play quite well

[Jerry Curl]

thats one hell of a future, 2 old ass players clearly not anywhere near what they used to be.

Uhm... what? Billups has per36 stats almost the same as his Detroit days. He also has a 63% TS which is the highest of his career so far.

All of this despite a crappy start to the season.

LOL do you even watch basketball? Or do you sit infront of your screen all day looking up stats and try to comment on something you know nothing about. Billups has been washed up for a couple years, takes terrible shots, Lawson should be getting his minutes.

[dockingsched]

http://twitter.com/#!/SpearsNBAYahoo

Agent Andy Miller tells Y! Sports Chauncey Billups doesn't want to be traded from his hometown Nuggets and would prefer a buyout if dealt.

[jeff1624]

Oh you're right, I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't have the ability to make baseless predictions and bash other teams like you guys do.

Though predicting that Amare's knees will crap out by the time he is 30 doesn't really take much intellect. All you have to do is look at every piece of history involving microfracture surgery.

Wow, some of you nuggets fans are so bitter..any mention of NY and it's automatic bashing..seriously, it's like you guys have a damn alarm that goes off whenever the knicks and melo are mentioned. Don't be mad at Knick fans just because your franchise player wants to play for them.

Well, regardless of where he ends up, ya'll better enjoy it while it lasts.

Same can be said about Knicks fans whenever there's a Nets/Melo thread.

And at Knicks fans calling our organization a joke. You can't erase what happened through 01-09 you know.

[Manhattan Project]

You would have to acknowledge the difference in sizes in fan bases no? Nets and Nuggets have a small to non existent fan base on RealGM where as the Knicks have a rather large one that is growing everyday. That's why I always find it funny that a group of Knick posters make up the entire image of the fan base and then posters use that as their reference point for all things Knick related.

Regarding the topic the only real question that is left is are the Nets are willing to trade for Melo without the extension? Until their willing to do that, there is no news.

[J Smitty]

Same can be said about Knicks fans whenever there's a Nets/Melo thread.

And at Knicks fans calling our organization a joke. You can't erase what happened through 01-09 you know.

Exactly. All Knicks fans do these days is talk about how terrible the Nets are, and how Melo will never sign there, and the Nuggets are stupid, and should just trade him to NY for nothing, because they apparently have no other choice. And then there are the ones who get cute and start bashing the city of Denver, and multiple other things.

It's like Knicks fans are a high school girl who isn't getting the attention she thinks she deserves, so she goes on facebook and talks **** about other girls to make herself feel better.

[Manhattan Project]

Exactly. All Knicks fans do these days is talk about how terrible the Nets are, and how Melo will never sign there, and the Nuggets are stupid, and should just trade him to NY for nothing, because they apparently have no other choice. And then there are the ones who get cute and start bashing the city of Denver, and multiple other things.

It's like Knicks fans are a high school girl who isn't getting the attention she thinks she deserves, so she goes on facebook and talks **** about other girls to make herself feel better.

How is this not the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black?

[Roscoe Sheed]

How would that make the Nets any better then Denver? Hamilton is a downgrade to JR Smith.

JR Smith > Rip?

Are you serious?

Talent wise Smith is better but the better player is obvioulsy Rip. He's been an All Star 3 times in his career.

Morrow may be even better than either of the 2 of them at this point

[Blackmun]

And why, exactly, would he do that again after the millions upon millions of dollars he has invested within the franchise as well as Barclay's Center?

1) Because that's what billionaires do with toys that turn out to be less fun to play with than intended. He bought the team thinking Jay-Z would get him Lebron. He didn't.

2) Nets wasn't his first choice, he tried to buy the Knicks first, but they weren't selling. So he has no emotional ties to the team.

3) The Barclay Center is far from certain still. There are tons of legal issues still hovering around it.

4) Even assuming Barclay Center does get finished, we're probably talking 2013-14. That's a damn long perspective for any athlete who has a 5-10 year timespan on becoming successful.

VEDOMOSTI: Why did you buy the New Jersey Nets? And why aren't things going so well with them?

Prokhorov: Why do you say that? We have four draft picks, haven't you noticed? We have a team, we're building the arena, we've hired professional management, we have the option to buy in to another large project, the building of an office center. For me, this is a project with explosive profit potential. The capitalization of the team will be $700 million after we move to Brooklyn. It will earn approximately 30. And the arena will be worth around $1 billion. We are planning to become NBA champions within five years. Brooklyn is the capital of immigration, there are some 450,000 people from our part of the world living there with no major sports teams to root for.

What else would he say?

And do you understand how little 450,000 is?

Do you understand how many seasons the "Brooklyn Nets" would have to absolutely dominate the Knicks to become a "New York" team, not just a Brooklyn team?

Do you know that New York already had the Nets, and pretty much kicked them out of the city?

There is nothing implied within this statement, taken on 12/23/2010, which implies that he's reconsidering his investment.

Yeah, I'm sure a random journalist would be the first person he told, if he was reconsidering.

What I do know is that it only takes one very good player to turn a franchise around. Take a look at the team across the Hudson for verification of this.

Yeah, and that one person was supposed to be Lebron. And Jay-Z was the man supposed to deliver. Guess what? Now the player is supposed to be Melo; and guess what? Melo has done everything short of screaming in the front of a TV camera that he has no intentions of joining the Nets, whatsoever. And probably the only reason he hasn't done that is because David Stern would go **** and fine him millions.

There's no reason to believe the Nets won't be a contender by the time they reach Brooklyn.

There is, more importantly, no reason to believe that they will be. In the current NBA, the "championship contenders" are by and large the same teams every season. Look at how many different teams have gone to the finals in the last 15 years. It's the same teams, time after time.

Prokhorov's problem is that he looked at what Roman Abramovich did with Chelsea in soccer, and figured; "Hey, I'm rich too, I'll do that as well!"

Unfortunately, he picked a sport with salary caps and no for-money transfer system.

[Wigginstime]

Exactly. All Knicks fans do these days is talk about how terrible the Nets are, and how Melo will never sign there, and the Nuggets are stupid, and should just trade him to NY for nothing, because they apparently have no other choice. And then there are the ones who get cute and start bashing the city of Denver, and multiple other things.

It's like Knicks fans are a high school girl who isn't getting the attention she thinks she deserves, so she goes on facebook and talks **** about other girls to make herself feel better.

How is this not the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Last i checked, I dont' see NJ fans going into every single Melo to NY trade tread and attempting to trash NY. Yet NY fans seem to feel the need to troll every single Melo trade tread that doesn't result in Melo ending up in NY....

Regardless of where Melo might end up, its delusion for anyone to think that NY is the "only" possibility.

[rocketsballin]

great way to ruin melo's career, or keep him from a ring, even deep playoff run

[food4thought]

http://twitter.com/#!/SpearsNBAYahoo

Agent Andy Miller tells Y! Sports Chauncey Billups doesn't want to be traded from his hometown Nuggets and would prefer a buyout if dealt.

The Nuggets taking L's by the day, now if the Nets still try to deal for both Melo and Billups then they are fools.

[Blackmun]

Regardless of where Melo might end up, its delusion for anyone to think that NY is the "only" possibility.

Why, exactly? It seems pretty clear that if Melo had any interest in Nets, it would have happened already, since that is what both the Nets and Nuggets want. The only one saying no is Melo.

Seems pretty clear to me he has his mind set on where he is going.

[KnickelandDime]

Exactly. All Knicks fans do these days is talk about how terrible the Nets are, and how Melo will never sign there, and the Nuggets are stupid, and should just trade him to NY for nothing, because they apparently have no other choice. And then there are the ones who get cute and start bashing the city of Denver, and multiple other things.

It's like Knicks fans are a high school girl who isn't getting the attention she thinks she deserves, so she goes on facebook and talks **** about other girls to make herself feel better.

How is this not the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Last i checked, I dont' see NJ fans going into every single Melo to NY trade tread and attempting to trash NY. Yet NY fans seem to feel the need to troll every single Melo trade tread that doesn't result in Melo ending up in NY....

Regardless of where Melo might end up, its delusion for anyone to think that NY is the "only" possibility.

Well then check again because they are there. Who said only? Most Knicks fans think that Melo very well could end up in New Jersey/Brooklyn or Dallas or Orlando or Houston which is why most of us realize the Melo-for-scraps trades aren't going to happen.

[Jersey Generals]

3) The Barclay Center is far from certain still. There are tons of legal issues still hovering around it.

No, no there aren't. There is no uncertainty surrounding the Barclays Center, the only uncercentainty is when the Nets are moving it. Atlantic Yards, however, is not guaranteed.

[J Smitty]

Regardless of where Melo might end up, its delusion for anyone to think that NY is the "only" possibility.

Why, exactly? It seems pretty clear that if Melo had any interest in Nets, it would have happened already, since that is what both the Nets and Nuggets want. The only one saying no is Melo.

Seems pretty clear to me he has his mind set on where he is going.

The Nets and Nuggets still haven't been able to reach any sort of agreement, that's why it hasn't happened yet. Why do you think there is all this talk of finding a third team, when all the players/picks the Nuggets would be getting are from the Nets? It's because they want to find a way to make this deal without having to add salary(like the rumored deal in September), or ideally, take back a lot less salary and get under the luxury tax. That's what they're mostly trying to do at the moment.

If they can't do that, then they probably will just accept the Nets' straight up offer of Favors/Murphy/picks...but since that offer is always going to be there, and there is still a lot of time, might as well look for a more desirable formation of this deal beforehand.

If Melo's mind was made up on going to NY, and only NY....none of these rumors would even be coming up, as no one else would want him in that case. But it isn't, because most of all, Melo wants his money. And I suspect that the Nuggets have given him the impression that there is zero chance of a trade happening with NY. So if he wants to go there, he can opt out and sign with them for less in the summer. If he wants his extension as much as he claims, he'll accept it in NJ.

[Blackmun]

No, no there aren't. There is no uncertainty surrounding the Barclays Center, the only uncercentainty is when the Nets are moving it. Atlantic Yards, however, is not guaranteed.

You seem confused. Without the Atlantic Yards project, there is no Barclays Center.

The Nets and Nuggets still haven't been able to reach any sort of agreement, that's why it hasn't happened yet. Why do you think there is all this talk of finding a third team, when all the players/picks the Nuggets would be getting are from the Nets?

Because Nuggets are desperately hoping that Melo changes his mind, and the Nets are adamant about making sure the Knicks do not get him. This is pretty well known stuff.

Trust me, if Melo had ok'd a trade to Nets, it would have happened long time ago. He hasn't. He isn't. He won't.

[HMFFL]

Chauncey Billups really care for it.

According to his agent, Chauncey Billups doesn't want to be traded from Denver and would prefer a buyout if he's included in any deal for Carmelo Anthony. (Twitter Marc Spears)

[J Smitty]

No, no there aren't. There is no uncertainty surrounding the Barclays Center, the only uncercentainty is when the Nets are moving it. Atlantic Yards, however, is not guaranteed.

You seem confused. Without the Atlantic Yards project, there is no Barclays Center.

The Nets and Nuggets still haven't been able to reach any sort of agreement, that's why it hasn't happened yet. Why do you think there is all this talk of finding a third team, when all the players/picks the Nuggets would be getting are from the Nets?

Because Nuggets are desperately hoping that Melo changes his mind, and the Nets are adamant about making sure the Knicks do not get him. This is pretty well known stuff.

Trust me, if Melo had ok'd a trade to Nets, it would have happened long time ago. He hasn't. He isn't. He won't.

Glad you know what is going on in his mind. I happen to know he wants his extension....but not because I'm just guessing, but because he has said "I'm going to sign it wherever I end up."

[Invictus]

When your believable source is Chris Sheridan (A known Knick @ss kisser & Nets hater), you better think twice before posting this link...

You obviously aren't astute enough to realize i just quoted an espn source to someone who stated they blindly believe everything espn says. Of course, you look at my avatar and location and think you can make a snide remark.

Ah the general board, where logic and reason are forgotten tools.