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What if we still had Stat but lost Nash?

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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#21 » by JasonDaPsycho » Sat Jan 8, 2011 7:11 pm

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gino_giode wrote:I think many underestimated Amar'e's scoring talent and simply attributed most of his numbers to Nash and the run and gun style of the Suns.


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A lot of people forget that Amare has a seriously good jump shot for a PF. He could easily put up 20ppg purely on mid range j's without having to dunk/layup at all.
I think this is what we miss most about him. We can bring in other PF's to run the p 'n r with Nash - heck even Warrick could be the poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor man's Amare in this respect - but how many other PF's in the league (particularly the ones we could reasonably trade for) have the offensive versatility that Amare has?

This team is totally different without him.

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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#22 » by melostat » Sun Jan 9, 2011 5:06 am

NYK 455 wrote:I'm an outsider, but I think you'd be worse. Hasn't your record minus Nash over the years been awful? The guy won an MVP the year Amar'e was out.


that was the time when the west was weak as well..Houston was gone due to injuries and seatle for i dont knw the reasons..they could have been eliminated by the lakers in the first round while this time, you canot be in the playoffs wihout winning 50..

And suns didnt made it to the playoffs during 08-09 because of amares injury and they couldnt make into the playoffs as well during 07-08 season and last season if not for amare's mvp performances..the suns were strugling to make the 8th seed before the all star break until amare posted 28 9 and thus on a hot streak
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#23 » by Miklo » Sun Jan 9, 2011 5:47 am

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NYK 455 wrote:I'm an outsider, but I think you'd be worse. Hasn't your record minus Nash over the years been awful? The guy won an MVP the year Amar'e was out.


that was the time when the west was weak as well..Houston was gone due to injuries and seatle for i dont knw the reasons..they could have been eliminated by the lakers in the first round while this time, you canot be in the playoffs wihout winning 50..

And suns didnt made it to the playoffs during 08-09 because of amares injury and they couldnt make into the playoffs as well during 07-08 season and last season if not for amare's mvp performances..the suns were strugling to make the 8th seed before the all star break until amare posted 28 9 and thus on a hot streak


Please tell me you know that the Suns made the WCF the year Amar'e missed with his surgery
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#24 » by melostat » Sun Jan 9, 2011 7:41 am

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melostat wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:I'm an outsider, but I think you'd be worse. Hasn't your record minus Nash over the years been awful? The guy won an MVP the year Amar'e was out.


that was the time when the west was weak as well..Houston was gone due to injuries and seatle for i dont knw the reasons..they could have been eliminated by the lakers in the first round while this time, you canot be in the playoffs wihout winning 50..

And suns didnt made it to the playoffs during 08-09 because of amares injury and they couldnt make into the playoffs as well during 07-08 season and last season if not for amare's mvp performances..the suns were strugling to make the 8th seed before the all star break until amare posted 28 9 and thus on a hot streak


Please tell me you know that the Suns made the WCF the year Amar'e missed with his surgery


please tell me also if they couldnt win with amare against dallas?? the team whom they won against last season
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#25 » by Sandra » Sun Jan 9, 2011 9:32 am

Please tell me that you know that they didn't meet Dallas last season in the playoffs, Melostat
And please also tell me that you never actually watched the Mavs - Suns series in 2006
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#26 » by melostat » Sun Jan 9, 2011 10:40 am

Sandra wrote:Please tell me that you know that they didn't meet Dallas last season in the playoffs, Melostat
And please also tell me that you never actually watched the Mavs - Suns series in 2006


i mean the season before amare got injured.. the series in 2005..

Yah the season where there are only two contenders, the mavs and the spurs who met in the conference finals because they were in the same division, the suns who got lucky to face the weak clippers instead..is that what you mean?? :roll:
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#27 » by BurningHeart » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:45 pm

melostat wrote:
Sandra wrote:Please tell me that you know that they didn't meet Dallas last season in the playoffs, Melostat
And please also tell me that you never actually watched the Mavs - Suns series in 2006


i mean the season before amare got injured.. the series in 2005..

Yah the season where there are only two contenders, the mavs and the spurs who met in the conference finals because they were in the same division, the suns who got lucky to face the weak clippers instead..is that what you mean?? :roll:


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Literally none.
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Re: What if we still had Stat but lost Nash? 

Post#28 » by b-ball forever » Sun Jan 9, 2011 12:59 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:We'd still be a losing team, but at least we'll have a better looking future.

I've been saying something similar to this for a while now.

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Unless we swap 1 of our wings for a starting caliber PG we'd just as good/bad as now, situation moving from having a big hole at the PF spot to having a big hole at the PG spot.

PS : We def beat the Mavs in the 2006 playoffs if Amare didn't need microfracture surgery, EASILY, no contest. We beat them the year before that, and if a Nash/Barbosa/Marion/Tim Thomas/Diaw starting lineup with James Jones and Eddie House off bench team takes the Mavs to 6 games, add Amare into the mix and it's an easy win.

We had a great run in 05-06 despite missing Amare cuz of the defensive upgrades (Bell/KT/Diaw), and mainly cuz Diaw was an excellent go-to option in the high-post that could iso from there and knew how to PnR (like Amare, alltho of course not as good), something we don't have right now.
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