[Camelo Thread Part 6] - Update: NJ tries again Pg. 71

[AllanHoustonFan]

WojYahooNBA
Source: DEN keeps telling NY it doesn't like its pieces, and when NY asks for direction on what to go get for Nugs, DEN hasn't been clear.

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In other words, they just don't want to trade him to the Knicks on principle.

And if Melo goes to NJ, he didn't do his part of forcing his way here.

[Gregory151]

@alanhahn
Alan Hahn
Bottom line is DEN has made it clear they do not want to deal with Knicks, period. It was always going to be up to Melo to use leverage.
6 minutes ago

DEN was willing to play chicken with him by Feb. 24 because they knew the CBA worried him. Agents in his ear on losing $$ in new CBA as FA.
3 minutes ago

[nyknicks2k2]

WojYahooNBA
Source: DEN keeps telling NY it doesn't like its pieces, and when NY asks for direction on what to go get for Nugs, DEN hasn't been clear.

Nuggets are getting youth and picks out of a Melo deal. They don't care where he goes though obviously there last choice would be NY. Since NJ is apparently willing to do whatever it takes to get Melo, they are going to milk this for whatever they can.

[K_ick_God]

But, personally, I think his agents must have gotten some indication that contradicts what a guy like Sheridan has heard. The sellout, I would be willing to bet, is upon us.

Or...

His agents are going to let this one get to the brink. Have multiple teams get involved ... again ... and then blow it up.

At that point Nets will go away for good. The rest of the league will go away. And then Denver will have a choice - live under the same roof while the divorce is settled, or just get a quicky annulment.

But at this point, it would just be unethical ... flatout unethical ... for Melo's agents to sell NJ and waste their time, only for it to come undone at the end.

I think this is going to happen because there's no explanation for using the Nets like this, only to have the deal fall apart because their own client vetoes.

Remember Melo is friendly with Jay-Z, and these guys operate in a small community where their word and reputation are very important. To knowingly use the Nets (even though they're the Nets lol) ... I just don't see it. I think this is getting done personally.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

WojYahooNBA
Source: DEN keeps telling NY it doesn't like its pieces, and when NY asks for direction on what to go get for Nugs, DEN hasn't been clear.

This.
Like I said, if Denver wanted a pick we have the ability to get one. A young big man in the mold of Favors...I'm sure Gallo could nab us that. It's just spite on Denver's part. I wonder what has Denver done to make Melo want out this bad as to go to the swamp for the prime of his career?

[god shammgod]

WojYahooNBA
Source: DEN keeps telling NY it doesn't like its pieces, and when NY asks for direction on what to go get for Nugs, DEN hasn't been clear.

This.
Like I said, if Denver wanted a pick we have the ability to get one. A young big man in the mold of Favors...I'm sure Gallo could nab us that. It's just spite on Denver's part. I wonder what has Denver done to make Melo want out this bad as to go to the swamp for the prime of his career?

it actually was reported recently that denver is not even high on favors anymore. they just like all the picks.

[rammagen]

It is on Mello if he wants to come here so be it he needs to say it or let NJ know he is not signing with them. Why the change of heart? If he doesn't come here and sells out to NJ we are still better off. We need a center and back up pg and allot of money to get them. I bet the minute this happens Donnie lands us one of the two if not both using curry and randolph.
You can not gut your team for anyone player especially one that has lead a supposedly more talented team to the same record as the Knicks have now. That is not much bang for you buck and you deplete your bench

[god shammgod]

This Al Iazonne guy is an unbelievable fool. He says the Nets will have the inside track on getting Chris Paul and said that they can trade for Paul if Paul forces his way out of New Orleans. Who exactly would the Nets use to trade for Paul?!? lol

Paul don't scare me either by the way. He is on the decline. Ray will bust his ass too.

i don't see it either but leon represents paul too. if he pulls this off i wouldn't put it past him.

[GONYK]

But, personally, I think his agents must have gotten some indication that contradicts what a guy like Sheridan has heard. The sellout, I would be willing to bet, is upon us.

Or...

His agents are going to let this one get to the brink. Have multiple teams get involved ... again ... and then blow it up.

At that point Nets will go away for good. The rest of the league will go away. And then Denver will have a choice - live under the same roof while the divorce is settled, or just get a quicky annulment.

But at this point, it would just be unethical ... flatout unethical ... for Melo's agents to sell NJ and waste their time, only for it to come undone at the end.

I think this is going to happen because there's no explanation for using the Nets like this, only to have the deal fall apart because their own client vetoes.

Remember Melo is friendly with Jay-Z, and these guys operate in a small community where their word and reputation are very important. To knowingly use the Nets (even though they're the Nets lol) ... I just don't see it. I think this is getting done personally.

You are talking about the same agents that handled "The Decision"

[Lord Commander]

This dude is gonna be the biggest laughingstock if he goes to Jersey, smh..

[K_ick_God]

Melo is stupid to listen to Leon Rose. There is no way he will lose a lot of money on new CBA.

No chance!

They will either cut all salaries or Grandfather him in. If not, it would mean Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy are getting $17M+ a year while Melo makes less? Even though he's better than both AND more senior in the NBA by several years of experience?

Not

a

chance.

Leon Rose just doesn't care about Melo. That's all.

[Jay10]

But, personally, I think his agents must have gotten some indication that contradicts what a guy like Sheridan has heard. The sellout, I would be willing to bet, is upon us.

Or...

His agents are going to let this one get to the brink. Have multiple teams get involved ... again ... and then blow it up.

At that point Nets will go away for good. The rest of the league will go away. And then Denver will have a choice - live under the same roof while the divorce is settled, or just get a quicky annulment.

But at this point, it would just be unethical ... flatout unethical ... for Melo's agents to sell NJ and waste their time, only for it to come undone at the end.

I think this is going to happen because there's no explanation for using the Nets like this, only to have the deal fall apart because their own client vetoes.

Remember Melo is friendly with Jay-Z, and these guys operate in a small community where their word and reputation are very important. To knowingly use the Nets (even though they're the Nets lol) ... I just don't see it. I think this is getting done personally.

fat joe would have something to say about that.

[nyknicks2k2]

To put it in a simpler way

Desperate franchise willing to do anything to land Melo (NJ)
+
Team currently holding Melo not wanting to send Melo to NY unless it was out of options
=
Unlikely chance of it actually happening unless Melo straight up says only NY.

It's on Melo now.

[rammagen]

@alanhahn
Alan Hahn
Bottom line is DEN has made it clear they do not want to deal with Knicks, period. It was always going to be up to Melo to use leverage.
6 minutes ago

DEN was willing to play chicken with him by Feb. 24 because they knew the CBA worried him. Agents in his ear on losing $$ in new CBA as FA.
3 minutes ago

F Denver I hope they have great time in the bottom half of the league for the next five years. It was foolish of them to not want to talk to NY, I really hope this bites them hard in ass for that reason alone. This is on Mello forcing his way and he has not done it. I hope he likes holding Stats jock for the next 4 years if he signs with NJ

[nykinoz]

Predictable.

[K_ick_God]

fat joe would have something to say about that.

I'm not saying Melo isn't close to Fat Joe. Closer than he is to Jay-Z. But he knows Jay-Z and respects him. He isn't going to let his agents use the Nets like that, most likely. Though I don't know Melo personally, but that seems far fetched.

Only way this is fake is if Melo's agents really don't know what he's thinking. I doubt they're trying to screw the Nets or doing so at his direction. And I find it hard to believe that they don't know what their client will or will not do.

[Knicks_Fan2]

@alanhahn
Alan Hahn
Bottom line is DEN has made it clear they do not want to deal with Knicks, period. It was always going to be up to Melo to use leverage.
6 minutes ago

DEN was willing to play chicken with him by Feb. 24 because they knew the CBA worried him. Agents in his ear on losing $$ in new CBA as FA.
3 minutes ago

F Denver I hope they have great time in the bottom half of the league for the next five years. It was foolish of them to not want to talk to NY, I really hope this bites them hard in ass for that reason alone. This is on Mello forcing his way and he has not done it. I hope he likes holding Stats jock for the next 4 years if he signs with NJ

The only entity that should be blamed is melo. If the deal went down I doubt anyone here would fault denver for doing that deal.

[Falstaffxx]

In other words, they just don't want to trade him to the Knicks on principle.

i read that comment the same way

At no point during this process has the claim that the Knicks don't have the assets to make a trade - whether it be directly with Denver or in a 3-way - made any sense at all, especially when compared with what Denver apparently does view as a value (Favors + picks).

I still don't think this is happening. When a trade doesn't make sense for ANY of the parties involved, something has to give. NJ gets a superstar and loses its future picks and flexibility while having a poor supporting cast. Denver gets a so-so prospect in Favors and gives the Nets just enough in the way of serviceable vets to ensure the picks they get back aren't top 5. And most importantly, Carmelo goes to a team that is 10-26, is playing in a cruddy city next year, doesn't get to play with a second star such as his friend Amar'e, and actually gets a downgrade in terms of the talent around him. I simply don't believe it. But hey, I've been wrong before.

[god shammgod]

Melo is stupid to listen to Leon Rose. There is no way he will lose a lot of money on new CBA.

No chance!

They will either cut all salaries or Grandfather him in. If not, it would mean Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy are getting $17M+ a year while Melo makes less? Even though he's better than both AND more senior in the NBA by several years of experience?

Not

a

chance.

Leon Rose just doesn't care about Melo. That's all.

of course not, he just wants the biggest cut he can get and at the same time prove how powerful he easy. then again most agents are that way.

[stuporman]

It's all in Melo's hands now, he decides his future. The Knicks and Walsh never had a shot of appeasing Denver.