[Camelo Thread Part 7]

[Pharmcat]

Not getting Melo will be a big blow in the sense of 'what could have been' .. May be harder to take than LeBron considering the reason to believe he was coming here many held for a long time. . It'll be nice for it to be over . .

but at the same time, who else will be on our radar, we obviously still have moves that need to be made. . Will we just make a small trade here or there and ride the rest of the season out with who we have? Or will we maintain cap space to do it all again

Pharmcat?

nope

but i agree with the sentiments

this one would hurt more than lbj....here is a guy who wants to come here, waiting 5 months now to do so, not getting him hurts more imo, lbj never wanted to come here

aside from the fact with melo this team has a easier road to top 4 in east, without him, its a lot harder

[duetta]

I still can't see Anthony agreeing to this one. Especially if the Nets are surrendering future picks.

[stuporman]

This was posted in the Den/Det/NJ trade thread but I feel it belongs here for everyone to read until this matter is resolved...

To answer the question on why would Rose arrange this deal without Melo's blessing? The real question is why not? He stands to make bank so he's going to do whatever it takes for him to get it. All he has to do is hope for a moment of weakness in Melo and *poof* extension signed. If it's never brought to a head, deal in place, the paperwork is all ready, dotted 'i's, crossed 't's and all it needs is his signature it all stays in the realm of 'what if'.

At that point if Melo says 'no go' everyone can shift into rental market mode. Until then it's still a question mark. I'm sure Melo has made statements about his conditions of acceptance for a situation to Rose and made it hard as hell for the Nets to meet them. I'm sure Rose believes he can push the right buttons at the last moment and get Melo's sig on the extension no matter where the destination is.

Of course... this is all just my own speculation.... lol

Your explanation is the best one I've heard for how Melo might not be on board with this at the end. I still believe it will happen with Melo caving and signing the extension, but your theory on Melo setting high conditions and Rose hoping he can meet them ... that's plausible and is a reasonable way for this to still come undone.

I bet it gets done but your theory does make a good bit of sense.

I also feel that window of when all the paperwork, the deal and everything is set waiting for Melo's sig will stay open for longer than asking it once. Even if Denver goes into rental market mode you bet that Rose will be hammering Melo at every chance to get the sig.

That deal may stay in place right up until something else winds up being done, including a summer sign and trade. Again it would only take one moment of weakness and both teams, agents and everything would have to be ready and waiting for that one moment.

Pretty smart thinking, honestly. Could be part of why they're getting this deal done now & so early -- so it can sit on the table for Melo.

Pretty smart thinking, honestly. Could be part of why they're getting this deal done now & so early -- so it can sit on the table for Melo.

I bet the hardest part on Melo is the limbo he's waiting in. His sister's death undoubtedly is also putting emotional stress on him. So with the deal in place, his agent hammering him, fears being stoked about money whether honestly or not, the media blowing this thing up bigger and bigger day by day asking over and over about it.... all it takes it one moment for him to let his guard down and *poof*, it's swamp thing time.

If he can make it through that stress gauntlet he would show he's strong enough to deal with NY and the pressure he would be under in this spotlight. If he crumbles and caves in to go where they want to send him, not where he wants to go...well, he just might not have been strong enough to handle it in NY anyway...

I guess we'll see....

Of course this purely speculation on my part!!!

[Future Soldier]

Melo won't agree to the extension. He isn't stupid. If he does agree, then he's obviously more about money than he is winning. Which is fine, but that's not someone I would want on my team, anyways.

[Pharmcat]

^^um he's played in the playoffs and hit game winner in them also

i think he can handle the pressure anywhere

[Lottery Bound]

Tommy Dee: Need to clear on another thing. As @Alan Hahn noted.not that the nuggs don't like knicks assets, it's they don't want to give Melo everything 1 minute ago

[Invictus]

Tommy Dee: Need to clear on another thing. As @Alan Hahn noted.not that the nuggs don't like knicks assets, it's they don't want to give Melo everything 1 minute ago

how petty.

I still believe any logical man would still conclude the knicks are a better option than the nets. Keeping in mind that billups and melo are the common denominators, are Hamilton and the nets minus harris and favors automatically better than the nuggets minus billups and melo?

[kane2021]

Get ready for the "melo close to signing extension" rumors soon. Like he is in a room with the contract in front of a crowd with his emotions on his sleeve pacing back and forth.

[putiger78]

The Nets situation after this trade is just terrible for Melo:

- Billups won't even want to be there, besides the fact that his skills are diminished.
- Lack of draft picks.
- Some terrible contracts... between the contracts of Melo, Outlaw, Hamilton, Farmar and Morrow... no cap flexibility. And by the time the big 2012 guys become free agents, you will have to extend Lopez to huge money and you probably have a more restrictive cap.
- No assets that are very attractive in a trade. Farmar, Morrow, could have some value, but not meaningful value.

I mean, how is that Nets team going to improve? Melo makes them a 500 team... but not much better than that.

[Subway Token]

At this point I just don't even care any more. I can't. If he comes, yay. If not, meh. Whatever.

[Lottery Bound]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sources: Proposed deal is 'melo, billups, hamilton, carter to NJ for harris, favors, uzoh, graham and picks. Murphy and Petro to DET. 1 minute ago

[Future Soldier]

I highly doubt they even reach .500 with just Melo and Brooke. Brooke is overrated, overhyped trash. Six boards a game, dukes? 45% from the field? THAT'S who you're gonna depend on in the future? Please.

[MKCATL]

Get ready for the "melo close to signing extension" rumors soon. Like he is in a room with the contract in front of a crowd with his emotions on his sleeve pacing back and forth.

Will this be on espn?

[nykinoz]

Tommy Dee: Need to clear on another thing. As @Alan Hahn noted.not that the nuggs don't like knicks assets, it's they don't want to give Melo everything 1 minute ago

Way to go Denver, won't deal with the Knicks despite melo's pleas, and also send old man Billups (who pledged loyalty and wants front office job) to NJ in what should be his final years in his hometown. Nice way to endear yourself to every other player in the NBA, how bad is Denvers rep going to be after this, who the hell is going to sign with them. Terrible, just terrible and unprofessional.

[Falstaffxx]

Get ready for the "melo close to signing extension" rumors soon. Like he is in a room with the contract in front of a crowd with his emotions on his sleeve pacing back and forth.

That's what it seemed like with Lebron, what with the updates every few hours on Lebron's mood and which way he was leaning.

[rammagen]

Tommy Dee: Need to clear on another thing. As @Alan Hahn noted.not that the nuggs don't like knicks assets, it's they don't want to give Melo everything 1 minute ago

how petty.

I still believe any logical man would still conclude the knicks are a better option than the nets. Keeping in mind that billups and melo are the common denominators, are Hamilton and the nets minus harris and favors automatically better than the nuggets minus billups and melo?

This is where it is on Melo this is a team that he played for 7 years being vindictive he needs to come out and say no I want to go where ever and they don't have to send me but.....
This is The nuggets being assclowns and hopefully it bites them when free agents go to sign there and remember this

[Lottery Bound]

Al Iannazzone: Sasha, Lopez, Outlaw, Farmar, James and Humphries could be only Nets to survive this. 2 minutes ago

[Invictus]

Al Iannazzone: Sasha, Lopez, Outlaw, Farmar, James and Humphries could be only Nets to survive this. 2 minutes ago

What a collection of intimidating names

[nyknicks2k2]

Get ready for the "melo close to signing extension" rumors soon. Like he is in a room with the contract in front of a crowd with his emotions on his sleeve pacing back and forth.

Melo?

[nykinoz]

The Nets situation after this trade is just terrible for Melo:

- Billups won't even want to be there, besides the fact that his skills are diminished.
- Lack of draft picks.
- Some terrible contracts... between the contracts of Melo, Outlaw, Hamilton, Farmar and Morrow... no cap flexibility. And by the time the big 2012 guys become free agents, you will have to extend Lopez to huge money and you probably have a more restrictive cap.
- No assets that are very attractive in a trade. Farmar, Morrow, could have some value, but not meaningful value.

I mean, how is that Nets team going to improve? Melo makes them a 500 team... but not much better than that.

And it's NEW JERSEY!!!!!