[Camelo Thread Part 7]

Falstaffxx · Post #41 » by **Falstaffxx** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:30 am

I still say this is a bunch of hot air. When something doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense.

Thats-Amareee · Post #42 » by **Thats-Amareee** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:31 am

Maybe we can get a deal where billups comes to back up felton

Post #43 » by **nyknicks2k2** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:33 am

NJ right now is 10-27. They would have to go 31-14 just to hit .500.

I don't see it as currently constructed. They might make the playoffs so, you know, congrats on that.

ophdog · Post #44 » by **ophdog** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:33 am

at this point all we can hope for is anthiny says he is going to wait to be a free agent im starting to thin that if Walsh could make a deal he would have and wouldnt be leaving this to chance. He must know that there is no way denver is trading him to us

AllanHoustonFan · Post #45 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:36 am

ophdog wrote:at this point all we can hope for is anthiny says he is going to wait to be a free agent im starting to thin that if Walsh could make a deal he would have and wouldnt be leaving this to chance. He must know that there is no way denver is trading him to us

Ever since Melo and CP3 showed up the Denver owner at the wedding, he has made it his mission to not deal with the Knicks.

stuporman · Post #46 » by **stuporman** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:36 am

LeBron had 'The Decision'... Melo will have 'The Inquisition'......

Hhmmmmm ......he don't look to happy now does he?

Futureisnow · Post #47 » by **Futureisnow** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:36 am

putiger78 wrote:The Nets situation after this trade is just terrible for Melo:

- Billups won't even want to be there, besides the fact that his skills are diminished.
- Lack of draft picks.
- Some terrible contracts... between the contracts of Melo, Outlaw, Hamilton, Farmar and Morrow... no cap flexibility. And by the time the big 2012 guys become free agents, you will have to extend Lopez to huge money and you probably have a more restrictive cap.
- No assets that are very attractive in a trade. Farmar, Morrow, could have some value, but not meaningful value.

I mean, how is that Nets team going to improve? Melo makes them a 500 team... but not much better than that.

Agreed. I just don't think Melo fears the upcomming CBA to the point that he'd sign the extension just to avoid a paycut. He said as much a few months back and if it were all about the money then he would've resigned months ago.

NJ is about to take a big gamble. They're going to trade picks and players based on the hope that Melo can be convinced to stay by season's end. At this point I'm indifferent to the whole thing anyway. As much as the Knicks need a 2nd star it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for us to use our cap and go get a big to compliment Stat.

ophdog · Post #48 » by **ophdog** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:37 am

nyknicks2k2 wrote:NJ right now is 10-27. They would have to go 31-14 just to hit .500.

I don't see it as currently constructed. They might make the playoffs so, you know, congrats on that.

THis year is another goose egg for them unless they get anythony. i dont think they even make the playoffs if they get him. He must be drinking some kool aid if he goes to nj

Futureisnow · Post #49 » by **Futureisnow** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:38 am

stuporman wrote:LeBron had 'The Decision'... Melo will have 'The Inquisition'......

Hhmmmmm ......he don't look to happy now does he?

It'd only be temporary. We all remember how "excited" he was when a reporter told him he'd been traded to NJ a few months back. Not exactly a guy in a rush to go to Newark. Maybe someone could create a Sopranos spoof where Melo is driving to NJ and crying the whole way.

Post #50 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:39 am

KBerg_CBS

not bad news til there's a deal and melo says yes RT @rdearborn1: must you insist on being the bearer of bad news for knicks fans?

AllanHoustonFan · Post #51 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:39 am

KnicksGod wrote:KBerg_CBS

not bad news til there's a deal and melo says yes RT @rdearborn1: must you insist on being the bearer of bad news for knicks fans?

There will be a deal. The question is will Melo say yes?

putiger78 · Post #52 » by **putiger78** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:40 am

If I am the Nets, I do this trade, just because you have to do something to get some credibility. But for Melo, the only reason to do this is money. He must truly hate Denver and truly believe he is going to lose a lot of money if he waits for FA. Because winning wise, the NJ situation is not good.

Post #53 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:41 am

nyknicks2k2 wrote:NJ right now is 10-27. They would have to go 31-14 just to hit .500.

I don't see it as currently constructed. They might make the playoffs so, you know, congrats on that.

I don't think that they have any chance to go 31-14, nor 28-17 either. They would need 28 more wins to have a shot at the playoffs and that may not do it.

Post #54 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:42 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:KBerg_CBS

not bad news til there's a deal and melo says yes RT @rdearborn1: must you insist on being the bearer of bad news for knicks fans?

There will be a deal. The question is will Melo say yes?

You get the sense that Berger doesn't think that's definite. Sheridan might still be holding firm too. We need Sheridan to re-surface lol.

stuporman · Post #55 » by **stuporman** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:42 am

Maybe Melo can get a cameo on Jersey Shore...... Fist pump!!!

nykinoz · Post #56 » by **nykinoz** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:44 am

But he's not DTF

Futureisnow · Post #57 » by **Futureisnow** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:46 am

putiger78 wrote:If I am the Nets, I do this trade, just because you have to do something to get some credibility. But for Melo, the only reason to do this is money. He must truly hate Denver and truly believe he is going to lose a lot of money if he waits for FA. Because winning wise, the NJ situation is not good.

If I'm the Nets I don't do this trade. They've acquired several picks, have a good cap situation going forward, and are a relatively young team. Rather than acquire a potential malcontent that's going to leave at season's end anyway they'd be better off drafting guys or trading for someone that they're certain to have for more than a few weeks.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #58 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:47 am

KnicksGod wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:KBerg_CBS

not bad news til there's a deal and melo says yes RT @rdearborn1: must you insist on being the bearer of bad news for knicks fans?

There will be a deal. The question is will Melo say yes?

You get the sense that Berger doesn't think that's definite. Sheridan might still be holding firm too. We need Sheridan to re-surface lol.

Yeah they must have one hell of a source if they stick to their guns

putiger78 · Post #59 » by **putiger78** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:49 am

Futureisnow wrote:
putiger78 wrote:If I am the Nets, I do this trade, just because you have to do something to get some credibility. But for Melo, the only reason to do this is money. He must truly hate Denver and truly believe he is going to lose a lot of money if he waits for FA. Because winning wise, the NJ situation is not good.

If I'm the Nets I don't do this trade. They've acquired several picks, have a good cap situation going forward, and are a relatively young team. Rather than acquire a potential malcontent that's going to leave at season's end anyway they'd be better off drafting guys or trading for someone that they're certain to have for more than a few weeks.

Yeah its a fair point... but how long do you live with being a doormat without doing anything? Besides, if that is your strategy, you don't give Travis Outlaw a huge contract.

Knickplaya · Post #60 » by **Knickplaya** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:49 am

If Melo will ONLY sign an extension w the Knicks, and does not want to be a Net--- why is his agent pushing the Pistons into this deal.

Is it a PR friendly way for Melo to be like ok i'll go but I don't know if Im going to sign an extension, I need to think about it, then the Nets void the deal, and the Nuggets get desperate and take a 1st rd pick, a couple expiring deals, and toney douglas for Melo and JR Smith?