Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#321 » by AllBall » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:35 am

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food4thought wrote:according to Chris Mannix, lot of winner want Billups, he can still play PG for LAL and MIA, and he can start for those teams as well. Billups has high BBIQ and don't forget that he played with the trio on Team USA.

He/You might wanna check that again, Billups never played with Bosh/LeBron/Wade on team USA. Billups only played for USA this year, and we all know where LeBron/Wade/Bosh were this summer :)


He also played in 2007 and he played with Lebron.

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Post#322 » by Flash3 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:36 am

I made a generic comment to your post, hence why I said some players and no where in my post did I clearly mention Melo or a caliber of Melo's player because I don't know enough to comment on Melo's case and neither do many of us on this board.
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Post#323 » by ikidunot » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:36 am

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Gemini850 wrote:This trade to New Jersey isn't making since to me. Maybe someone can explain. Why would he go to the Nets? To me he is leaving one mediocre team and going to another mediocre team. Is the Nets offering him more money than the Nuggets are offering him?


Leon Rose is his agent, who works in New Jersey, he is also the agent for Rip Hamilton as well as Chris Paul, so according to Woj (Yahoo sports writer) he has been the driving force in wanting Melo to play for the Nets, and also is claiming that if Hamilton goes to Jersey, Melo will sign.

He must have done some convincing to Melo that Jersey will be top team years to come, but why is Paul's name being mentioned in all of this, this is tampering at its finest.

Also, one more thing I want to add is that Rose is Lebron James agent as well as one of his good friends, so essentially he would want Melo to go Nets instead of Knicks so Miami's road to the title would be a lot easier.

The bolded part makes me sick. :nonono:
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Post#324 » by Jose_Matador » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:41 am

Just asked around other boards and apparently Melo could potentially lose 60-80M in the CBA depending on what hard cap it brings, so I guess extending with NJ would be a no brainer financially.
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Post#325 » by droponov » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:41 am

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No, the other way around. I need an example of a NBA athlete who, being on Melo's shoes, wouldn't prioritize signing the extension. Melo's "driving force" isn't the same of "some players", it's the same that drives pretty much every other player.
oooooooooooh careful now... you're gonna upset a lot of people with that generalization 8-)


Why? If Melo decided to put in jeopardy 1/3 of his career peak earnings he'd need to see a doctor or at least his family and friends should think about some kind of intervention.
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Post#326 » by Flash3 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:43 am

Jose_Matador wrote:Just asked around other boards and apparently Melo could potentially lose 60-80M in the CBA depending on what hard cap it brings, so I guess extending with NJ would be a no brainer financially.

60-80? How?

If he signs a deal now, he's up for $60M, is he not? So how does he lose 60, let alone 80 by not reupping now?
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Post#327 » by Jose_Matador » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:43 am

droponov wrote:
Jose_Matador wrote:
droponov wrote:
No, the other way around. I need an example of a NBA athlete who, being on Melo's shoes, wouldn't prioritize signing the extension. Melo's "driving force" isn't the same of "some players", it's the same that drives pretty much every other player.
oooooooooooh careful now... you're gonna upset a lot of people with that generalization 8-)


Why? If Melo decided to put in jeopardy 1/3 of his career peak earnings he'd need to see a doctor or at least his family and friends should think about some kind of intervention.
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Post#328 » by Jose_Matador » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:44 am

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Jose_Matador wrote:Just asked around other boards and apparently Melo could potentially lose 60-80M in the CBA depending on what hard cap it brings, so I guess extending with NJ would be a no brainer financially.

60-80? How?

If he signs a deal now, he's up for $60M, is he not? So how does he lose 60, let alone 80 by not reupping now?
signing out right with NYK. Not extending his current deal.

signing out right, he could have made 130 mil last off season if he was a FA then, the next off season coming up I guess there is a possibility that he could lose out on a chunk of that.
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Post#329 » by ikidunot » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:45 am

KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Melo ain't going to Newark if Jordan Farmar is the starting PG, folks.

So I guess this is where CP3 comes in right? :)
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Post#330 » by Flash3 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:46 am

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Jose_Matador wrote:Just asked around other boards and apparently Melo could potentially lose 60-80M in the CBA depending on what hard cap it brings, so I guess extending with NJ would be a no brainer financially.

60-80? How?

If he signs a deal now, he's up for $60M, is he not? So how does he lose 60, let alone 80 by not reupping now?
signing out right with NYK. Not extending his current deal.

I don't see the logic of him losing that much though. Let's say he signs a 6 year $60M deal with NY with the new extension, at worst he's lost $5m by not reupping now?

Do you have the full response to your question with the salary figures year over year?
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Post#331 » by Flash3 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:48 am

Jose_Matador wrote:
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Jose_Matador wrote:Just asked around other boards and apparently Melo could potentially lose 60-80M in the CBA depending on what hard cap it brings, so I guess extending with NJ would be a no brainer financially.

60-80? How?

If he signs a deal now, he's up for $60M, is he not? So how does he lose 60, let alone 80 by not reupping now?
signing out right with NYK. Not extending his current deal.

signing out right, he could have made 130 mil last off season if he was a FA then, the next off season coming up I guess there is a possibility that he could lose out on a majority of that,

NOW I see your logic. :thumbsup:
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Post#332 » by UGA Hayes » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:49 am

So Melo or Outlaw would be the PF? they don't strike me as having the personnel to play smallball effectively.
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Post#333 » by bullsnewdynasty » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:51 am

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bullsnewdynasty wrote:Really is almost a no brainer for Denver. Still don't see New Jersey as that good of a team though, especially without Billups. That team looks to be Atlanta/New York type level at best IMO.

You left Chicago out.


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Post#334 » by Die93 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:51 am

Melo is (Please Use More Appropriate Word)
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Post#335 » by Jazzfan12 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:52 am

UGA Hayes wrote:So Melo or Outlaw would be the PF? they don't strike me as having the personnel to play smallball effectively.



Humpries is better than Billups or Rip at this point, so he's the third option and should probably start at PF.

Nets have apparently agreed to pick up Billups' team option for next year, but Denver apparently is rethinking the deal again while the Nets' suits are breaking things in their office.


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Post#336 » by Nicky Nix Nook » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:52 am

NJ should sign Rasheed out of retirement and we can see what it would have looked like if the Pistons drafted Melo.
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Post#337 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:53 am

Gemini850 wrote:
KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Melo ain't going to Newark if Jordan Farmar is the starting PG, folks.

So I guess this is where CP3 comes in right? :)

Man I'm getting tired of this teaming up bull MJ frowns at this new era. Durant would never do this...

Sources say that Thunder F Kevin Durant is forcing his way to the Miami Heat

Oh god no
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Post#338 » by reapaman » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:54 am

According to Wojo Tweets

Nets told they had deal w/ Denver Saturday night, just needed to firm up with DET. NJ and DET have done that, and now DEN waffling again.

Denver isn't making issue of draft pick compensation but perhaps different mix of players back from Nets, sources say. Deal will sit tonite.

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Post#339 » by Flash3 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:54 am

Jetset wrote:
Gemini850 wrote:
KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Melo ain't going to Newark if Jordan Farmar is the starting PG, folks.

So I guess this is where CP3 comes in right? :)

Man I'm getting tired of this teaming up bull MJ frowns at this new era. Durant would never do this...

Sources say that Thunder F Kevin Durant is forcing his way to the Miami Heat

Oh god no

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Well done, sir. Well done.
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Post#340 » by droponov » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:57 am

If he signs that $65 millions extension, he'll make $83 millions in the next 4 seasons.

Nobody really knows how max. contracts will look in the next CBA. But it's very safe to assume that the max lenght will be reduced to 4/5 instead of 5/6. I'd also expect a lower limit. Let's say it becomes 25% of the salary cap and the salary cap remains the same. This seems to be a pretty conservative estimate (or optimistic, from the point of view of the players). Melo would probably be limited to a $65 millions salary in the next 4 years. That's $18 million less. And again, this being conservative about how much max contracts will be limited by the next CBA. Take it as a best case scenario.

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