RIP TO NJ (REAL RUMOR!!!!)

RTM · Post #281 » by **RTM** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:18 am

So let me get this straight... The deal would likely be Rip for Murphy and Petro?

I could live with that. We'd be stuck with Petro's 7 mil over the next 2 years, but off the hook for Rips 25 over the same duration. But I doubt we could move Petro - he's basically Diop on a slightly less atrocious deal.

This deal would fall in line with the Maggette and Turkoglu dumps that we saw this summer - expirings and a smaller deal with a couple years left. Although if we're already at 15 and are taking on 2 more players, someone has to be cut. My bet would be Summers, unless we immediately buy out Murphy.

Stuckey / Bynum / White*
Gordon / McGrady
Prince / Daye / Jerebko*
Villanueva / Murphy / Maxiell
Wallace / Monroe / Wilcox / Petro

With only Bynum, Gordon, Daye, CV, Max, Ben, Monroe and Petro having guaranteed salaries next season.

As I said, fine with this. Not an upgrade in any aspect aside from finances, but it's (hopefully) the shakeup (and exit of Rip) that we've all been waiting for.

vege · Post #282 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:19 am

srt4b wrote:BTW: This thread is great fun. Most exciting Pistons moment of 2010-2011.

Except by the part i got offended yes, it is fun. Depending on my mood tomorrow i might bring some historic comments from other threads to this thread like

"hey i have a great idea, let's trade Rip for Diop and Carroll." :lol:

Piston Pete · Post #283 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:19 am

Never said he was good. Just the fact he is a 7-footer, and those teams need frontcourt help, and are primed to make noise in the postseason. They could use him just to commit some fouls, block some shots and play 5-10 minutes per....especially in the playoffs

vege · Post #284 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 am

RTM wrote:he's basically Diop on a slightly less atrocious deal.

Thank you very much mr RTM, finally someone who knows what he is talking about. You just made me feel less dumb right now.

ComboGuardCity · Post #285 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 am

Your Cap math is wrong by the way. We can go over the cap to sign Stuckey and Jerbebko. So we can still sign a big FA.

Piston Pete · Post #286 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 am

vege wrote:
srt4b wrote:BTW: This thread is great fun. Most exciting Pistons moment of 2010-2011.

Except by the part i got offended yes, it is fun. Depending on my mood tomorrow i might bring some historic comments from other threads to this thread like

"hey i have a great idea, let's trade Rip for Diop and Carroll."

Shut up Vege, you suck!

vege · Post #287 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 am

Piston Pete wrote:Never said he was good. Just the fact he is a 7-footer, and those teams need frontcourt help, and are primed to make noise in the postseason. They could use him just to commit some fouls, block some shots and play 5-10 minutes per....especially in the playoffs

You don't need to pay 10 million for that. You can go down to DLeague and find someone to do that dirty job for the minimum.

Piston Pete · Post #288 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Your Cap math is wrong by the way. We can go over the cap to sign Stuckey and Jerbebko. So we can still sign a big FA.

Do you understand how cap holds work?

Unless we renounce Stuckey/JJ/everyone else, we won't have much cap space....we will have their cap holds on the books until re-signed or renounced.

Piston Pete · Post #289 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 am

vege wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Never said he was good. Just the fact he is a 7-footer, and those teams need frontcourt help, and are primed to make noise in the postseason. They could use him just to commit some fouls, block some shots and play 5-10 minutes per....especially in the playoffs

You don't need to pay 10 million for that. You can go down to DLeague and find someone to do that dirty job for the minimum.

If it was that easy, they would have done it by now...

vege · Post #290 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 am

Piston Pete wrote:
Shut up Vege, you suck!

Thanks for the laugh i needed that after being insulted and disrespected for stating my opinion :lol:

vege · Post #291 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:23 am

Piston Pete wrote:If it was that easy, they would have done it by now...

Big Ben says hello. We did it last season :wink:

Piston Pete · Post #292 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:24 am

Sacto fan was looking to get BG/CV for Daly+. Really liking that deal depending on the +

Piston Pete · Post #293 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:25 am

vege wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:If it was that easy, they would have done it by now...

Big Ben says hello. We did it last season

Ben WANTED to be here, pretty bad.

Point still is, if they could have done so as easily, they would have by now....

vege · Post #294 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:25 am

Piston Pete wrote:Sacto fan was looking to get BG/CV for Daly+. Really liking that deal depending on the +

Dally have been horrible and Joe D said he have no intention to trade BG or CV. I think the Rip trade talks are an indication that BG is not going anywhere any time soon.

Piston Pete · Post #295 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:26 am

vege wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Sacto fan was looking to get BG/CV for Daly+. Really liking that deal depending on the +

Dally have been horrible and Joe D said he have no intention to trade BG or CV. I think the Rip trade talks are an indication that BG is not going anywhere any time soon.

Maybe we could pawn off CV/Maxiell for Daly.

ComboGuardCity · Post #296 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:28 am

Piston Pete wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Your Cap math is wrong by the way. We can go over the cap to sign Stuckey and Jerbebko. So we can still sign a big FA.

Do you understand how cap holds work?

Unless we renounce Stuckey/JJ/everyone else, we won't have much cap space....we will have their cap holds on the books until re-signed or renounced.

Stuckey has an 8mill hold. Jonas has a Cap hold of 1 mill.

We'll have around 13 mill if we don't renounce Stuckey and JJ....

vege · Post #297 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:28 am

I think if we want we can dump Maxiell. Orlando have a TPE and they probably would kill to get a guy like Max.

Dally have been really horrible, i wouldn't touch him, we don't need him at all. Monroe is finally playing great and we have Big Ben as well. If we are getting a center it's better be a major upgrade.

Piston Pete · Post #298 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:30 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Your Cap math is wrong by the way. We can go over the cap to sign Stuckey and Jerbebko. So we can still sign a big FA.

Do you understand how cap holds work?

Unless we renounce Stuckey/JJ/everyone else, we won't have much cap space....we will have their cap holds on the books until re-signed or renounced.

Stuckey has an 8mill hold. Jonas has a Cap hold of 1 mill.

We'll have around 13 mill if we don't renounce Stuckey and JJ....

Assuming the deal is Rip for Murph/Petro, we'll have $39 mil on the books. Plus said $9 mil in cap holds = $48 mil. How high do you expect the cap to be?

vege · Post #299 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:33 am

Ben Gordon $11,600,000
Rodney Stuckey $ 8,301,378
Charlie Villanueva $ 7,540,000
Jason Maxiell $ 5,000,000
Johan Petro $ 3,250,000
Will Bynum $ 3,250,000
Greg Monroe $ 3,007,920
Ben Wallace $ 2,246,400
Austin Daye $ 1,929,600
Jonas Jerebko $ 1,059,293
1st round Pick $ 1,500,000
1st round Pick from NJ $ 1,500,000

$50,184,591

Yes my math is wrong, i don't know ****, i am stupid, i am a piece of ****, etc etc etc.

Piston Pete · Post #300 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:33 am

vege wrote:I think if we want we can dump Maxiell. Orlando have a TPE and they probably would kill to get a guy like Max.

Dally have been really horrible, i wouldn't touch him, we don't need him at all. Monroe is finally playing great and we have Big Ben as well. If we are getting a center it's better be a major upgrade.

Wouldn't want Daly....would like his expiring contract though...