[Camelo Thread Part 7]

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #741 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:00 pm

I guess we can take free candy back...He had his moments..

Thats-Amareee · Post #742 » by **Thats-Amareee** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:00 pm

Call me crazy..but if Melo is here do we really want to re-sign Chandler? Seems like the money could be better spent. Just curious

Post #743 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:01 pm

In the end, I really think this could be about Fields. Any basketball man with half a clue who watches this kid play would be idiotic not to want him. Dude is already our smartest player, and seemed like one of the smartest players on either team last night, and he's 22. He is athletic, smart, plays the right way, great sense of the game.

I say Nuggets want him and are holding out for him -- and I say Donnie should raise his middle finger.

I honestly would be really upset if we traded Fields and got Melo. I'm not saying Melo is not one of the better scorers in the league but you win with players like Fields and he is the type of guy who makes it all go.

If the price is Fields, I gladly walk away.

MSGLegendNY · Post #744 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:01 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too

LOL wow this is like a comedy soap-opera, I'm actually enjoying this.

towelie · Post #745 » by **towelie** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:01 pm

falcindor wrote:Denver never should have signed Al Harrington. They only got him to keep Melo interested. Melo dissed the move. No Walsh will not take Harrington. Hes sticking to his guns about keeping cap space for 2012.

Uhh, no he hasn't. He's already said he's going to resign Chandler, which would kill any chance at cap space in 2012.

If we get Melo, some of you fans need to let the 2012 dream die. Forget forming a big 3 with Paul/Melo/Amare.

god shammgod · Post #746 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:01 pm

Future Soldier wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
falcindor wrote:Denver never should have signed Al Harrington. They only got him to keep Melo interested. Melo dissed the move. No Walsh will not take Harrington. Hes sticking to his guns about keeping cap space for 2012.

after getting melo and resigning chandler there is no cap space in 2012. none at all. harrington's contract won't matter.

let's say D-Will wants to be a FA and won't re up with Utah, and makes it known he wants to play with Melo and Amar'e. Can we pull off a Felton/Chandler for Deron + filler deal?

i don't know if utah would be interested in that or not. maybe ? but we definitely won't have cap space to sign him with or without harrington.

Post #747 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:02 pm

MSGLegendNY wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too

LOL wow this is like a comedy soap-opera, I'm actually enjoying this.

What is Denver hiding and why don't they want to finalize this trade so they can finally ask Melo if he'd go to NJ?

Thats-Amareee · Post #748 » by **Thats-Amareee** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:03 pm

KnicksGod wrote:In the end, I really think this could be about Fields. Any basketball man with half a clue who watches this kid play would be idiotic not to want him. Dude is already our smartest player, and seemed like one of the smartest players on either team last night, and he's 22. He is athletic, smart, plays the right way, great sense of the game.

I say Nuggets want him and are holding out for him -- and I say Donnie should raise his middle finger.

I honestly would be really upset if we traded Fields and got Melo. I'm not saying Melo is not one of the better scorers in the league but you win with players like Fields and he is the type of guy who makes it all go.

If the price is Fields, I gladly walk away.

Aside from Amare, hes the only player I hope we deem untouchable. championships are won with players like him.

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #749 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:04 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
MSGLegendNY wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too

LOL wow this is like a comedy soap-opera, I'm actually enjoying this.

What is Denver hiding and why don't they want to finalize this trade so they can finally ask Melo if he'd go to NJ?

The answer to your question is your question. How do they approach him with this if he already stated he wants no parts of a Jersey deal privately?

knicks9784 · Post #750 » by **knicks9784** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:05 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
MSGLegendNY wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too

LOL wow this is like a comedy soap-opera, I'm actually enjoying this.

What is Denver hiding and why don't they want to finalize this trade so they can finally ask Melo if he'd go to NJ?

umm because then melo turns it down and they lose leverage with the knicks cause there would be no other team bidding

i think you knew that though lol

Post #751 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:06 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:The answer to your question is your question. How do they approach him with this if he already stated he wants no parts of a Jersey deal privately?

Also, if they think Melo is 50-50 about the Nets, then making the deal worse and worse for the Nets is only going to push Melo away from going there. Now they take Harrington, killing their chances at getting Paul. So it's Melo with Rip and Hamilton well into their 40s for the next several years.

Future Soldier · Post #752 » by **Future Soldier** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:
i don't know if utah would be interested in that or not. maybe ? but we definitely won't have cap space to sign him with or without harrington.

well they could either lose him for nothing or lose him for something. Chandler and Felton would work very well in Sloan's system. And they're both young. I'd do that trade if I were Utah and I knew Deron wasn't coming back.

Justdatdude · Post #753 » by **Justdatdude** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:06 pm

Karl just signed an extension or he's close to an extension. He knows if Melo is gone, the team isn't going anywhere. They have a ton of expirings. They DO NOT want to trade Carmelo. This is why we're hearing about this and that deal, then when it gets close its reported Denver wants more. Look at the Cavaliers. When you lose a superstar, there is no easy rebuild. They Nuggets aren't like the Lakers where they lost Shaq and had Kobe to fall back on. If Carmelo is traded, their next best player is Nene. Nene has a player option and he can leave. After that its Billups. He has a team option and its no reason for the team to pick it up if Carmelo leave. Then it becomes JR Smith and Ty Lawson...

If they trade Carmelo, that franchise is destroyed. No ifs ands or buts about it.

nykfan70 · Post #754 » by **nykfan70** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:07 pm

Rip Hamilton took part in Monday's shootaround for the Pistons, meaning a proposed trade is still not completed.
Whether he plays tonight against the Bulls remains to be seen, but as of now, it looks like he might play.
Source: Vincent Goodwill on Twitter

Yeah, Rip is ready to go NJ, maybe after the shoot around. LOL

MSGLegendNY · Post #755 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:07 pm

This might be the biggest smokescreen in the history of the NBA.

Justdatdude · Post #756 » by **Justdatdude** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:09 pm

The Knicks need to rack up some draft picks to get this deal done. Us being better than the Nets with Carmelo is irrelevant. The goal is to win a championship. Without Carmelo, we're not competing with the Heat the next few years unless Howard walks through that door. Not Chris Paul or Deron Williams. Dwight Howard.

MKCATL · Post #757 » by **MKCATL** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:09 pm

MSGLegendNY wrote:This might be the Worst smokescreen in the history of the NBA.

Correction

MSGLegendNY · Post #758 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:09 pm

MKCATL wrote:
MSGLegendNY wrote:This might be the Worst smokescreen in the history of the NBA.

Correction

Touche.

Falstaffxx · Post #759 » by **Falstaffxx** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Two things:

I don't believe ANY of these minute-by-minute updates on what the Nuggets are currently asking for or the ever-shifting reasons why the deal isn't done or what the psychological state of the various players is. For this kind of information to be available and legit, there would have to be someone sitting next to the Nuggets GM texting real-time updates to ESPN. It's bull.

Second: I think it's cool how every move we criticized in the offseason looks just about as horrible as we predicted - Harrington, Outlaw, etc - we knew these were bad moves at the time, and look how they are turning out. It's funny.

Okay, a 3rd thing: let's swoop in and trade for Rip Hamilton. That should ruin everything right? :lol:

Knickplaya · Post #760 » by **Knickplaya** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:12 pm

Exactly.

Denver is in check, one step from being check-mate, and hiding the King by moving one space over every time.

New Jersey may look like a huge joke, if they get this done and Melo says no. Then what will Denver do?

IMO, I think Denver thinks the Knicks are going to get desperate and offer Gallo, Chandler, Fields/or Douglas, Curry, a 1st rd Pick so NJ does not get Melo. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT :lol:

Donnie is too smart to fall for this!