[Camelo Thread Part 7]

[FieldsMedal]

hell you never know....we could get lucky and pick up a nice young big man in the draft. They seem to be plentiful nowadays. Teams are getting good value in the mid/low part of the 1st round. Plus with the cap space we have....Kendrick Perkins would be fantastic. Reminds me of an old school Knick player. Would fit the culture here very well. Hard nosed guy that takes no shyt.

Fair enough. Trading for 'Melo doesn't preclude you from doing either of those things, unless you're planning on giving a guy whose always been a role player coming off a major injury more than the MLE.

Are you?

[snyknick86]

donnie is playing chess not checkers .

[GONYK]

hell you never know....we could get lucky and pick up a nice young big man in the draft. They seem to be plentiful nowadays. Teams are getting good value in the mid/low part of the 1st round. Plus with the cap space we have....Kendrick Perkins would be fantastic. Reminds me of an old school Knick player. Would fit the culture here very well. Hard nosed guy that takes no shyt.

We aren't getting Perkins man. Cmon.

[Pharmcat]

you know things look bleak when sheridan is waffling

[Knickplaya]

Maybe Sherridan is/was correct.

[Future Soldier]

Fields, I'd be perfectly fine with giving Perkins a decent deal. He's worth it. He's a champion and a winner. Doesn't need the ball to be effective. He's coming off an injury but he'll be okay by the summer time.

From Chris Sherridan http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks ... -questions



Question No. 2: What is the key factor holding up the trade?

The Nets need to get a commitment from Anthony that he'll sign the extension, and they received word Sunday (not the first time they've been told this) that Anthony was amenable to the deal. But did they hear that from Anthony himself? Or from his representatives, Leon Rose and William Wesley? Because at the end of the day, no matter how many people in Anthony's camp are telling him and/or pressuring him to sign off on the deal, it still comes down to whether Anthony himself says "Yes" or "No."

Yes! This is EXACTLY what I've been saying.

[Knickplaya]

I think the Nets thing with Billups going out publicly (well his agent) that he would want a buy out... is an attempt to get a contract extension. Or does he really LOVE playing in Den, or does he NOT want to goto the Nets. I am sure Carmelo and Billups have spoken about this...but the need to go public? I can't imagine Carmelo accepting a trade to the Nets without Billups. I think he is the key to this whole thing (even though him and RIP are old and the team would suck). Melo does not goto NJ to play with Brook Lopez (who Toney Douglas can maybe out rebound.

[FieldsMedal]

you know things look bleak when sheridan is waffling

Critics of the press need to get out from under this impression that the press claim to be omnipotent.

As stated earlier, Sheridan will have done or reported nothing wrong if 'Melo changes/ed his mind.

[Pharmcat]

you know things look bleak when sheridan is waffling

Critics of the press need to get out from under this impression that the press claim to be omnipotent.

As stated earlier, Sheridan will have done or reported nothing wrong if 'Melo changes/ed his mind.

Im not criticising sheridan, im just saying since he is not standing by his original statement means something has changed

[K_ick_God]

Funny thing about the Nets "plan" is that to get Paul -- who looks like a not-so-special PG these days -- they would have to lose their beloved Brook Lopez. So it's Paul, Melo and not much else?

Let's say, for argument's sake, that if he goes to the Knicks, his chances of winning a title are 30% in the next 7 years. On the Nets, with that roster, his odds would never be better than something like 5% or worse. Many times more likely, no matter how you cut it, that he can win with Amar'e and our other pieces, than on the Nets.

So make no mistake, this is a straight swap of cash in exchange for any realistic chance at a title. And that's even if they get Paul.

[FieldsMedal]

Fields, I'd be perfectly fine with giving Perkins a decent deal. He's worth it. He's a champion and a winner. Doesn't need the ball to be effective. He's coming off an injury but he'll be okay by the summer time.

Isn't what Miami is doing (with the cast of The Walking Dead in the middle) making anyone question what can be accomplished in the NBA with superior talent vs. positional balance.

[Knickplaya]

I think Sherridan has credibility in the sense that everyone seems to be reporting that there hasn't been 100 percent word FROM MELOS mouth that he will sign an extension, so clearly at one time or the other he has been unsure of the Nets situation.

[AllanHoustonFan]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Carmelo Anthony is practicing today for the Nuggets, source says, so idea Denver's holding them out for trade purposes isn't the case.

[Knickplaya]

Denver needs to go businesss as usual, or they will lose leverage.

[FieldsMedal]

So make no mistake, this would be a straight swap of cash in exchange for any realistic chance at a title. And that's even if they get Paul.

Fixed.

[Pharmcat]

getting harrington isnt really a negative, as it helps replenish the depth lost in melo deal

azu + mason for harrington works in the checker and saves them boatload of money

if that's what it takes i don't really see the problem. take balkman too, who cares.

Agreed but the problem is that they apparently want Favors, the picks and to dump the contracts. So for us, they would probably want Gallo, Fields, picks and to dump Harrington. No way I do do this trade. Gallo, Eddy, pick, Azubuike and Mason for Melo and Harrington is my final offer.

whats the alternative plan to get us to top 4 team in the east?

melo is the easy way to do it

[K_ick_God]

So make no mistake, this would be a straight swap of cash in exchange for any realistic chance at a title. And that's even if they get Paul.

Fixed.

And

Paul / Farmar
?
Melo / Outlaw
?
?

5% is a very generous characterization of their chances of winning a title.

[stuporman]

No way Rose and his cohorts tell NJ that Melo isn't going to sign with them so of course NJ is going to get positive feedback from those guys. Melo on the other hand hasn't said he would sign with them because if he had the deal would be done already. Simple as that.

'Sources', 'sources' they can claim stuff all they want but if the player is actually on board the deal gets done. It hasn't happen and supposedly deals have fallen apart a couple times before so my belief is he isn't on board no matter what his greedy agents are feeding him to stoke the fears of 'losing money'.

I love how the media is being used as patsies to further the agents agenda by now reporting Amar'e doesn't want Melo. What a bunch of dolts, really, you think Melo and Amar'e don't know what each other want? Telling millions of people out of the loop total crap and have them believe it doesn't change the fact that Amar'e and Melo are great friends who talk to each other.

[N8isScofield]

So make no mistake, this would be a straight swap of cash in exchange for any realistic chance at a title. And that's even if they get Paul.

Fixed.

And

A hobbled slower Paul / Farmar
?
Melo / Outlaw
?
?


5% is a very generous characterization of their chances of winning a title.

Fixed it for you.

[magnumt]

After the JJ deal where he said he regretted doing that deal, I doubt Donnie gives up Gallo+Fields, or all 3 for Melo AND takes on Salary.

Let NJ have him if that's what it costs. We beat a deeper Nuggets Team that was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more tougher. We can beat a weaker Nets Team in the short-term.

After Melo does go to NJ though, I'd like to see us add a legit mid-range SG and a Big Man.

--Mags