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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#541 » by contract » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:25 pm

darth_federer wrote:Do you really think NBA GM's would have spent days on this deal and involved other teams if they hadnt made sure that Melo was ok with going to New Jersey?

Yes, I think they would. Complicated NBA trades are negotiated all the time only to fall apart over 1 piece.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#542 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:27 pm

Jetset wrote:Touche, judging from your location and seeing as you have an avatar of a team that no longer exists I figured you were also a current Knick fan. Didn't really know that you had to have an avatar and sig of the team you root for. If thats the case I'd better get to work making one.


Hehe, fair enough. I'm old school though, I don't "change" my team just because I move to a different city, or some son of a b.... Oklahoma business man buys our franchise ;)

Since I live in NYC, I do watch a few Knicks games, but I'm pretty much a neutral observer until Seattle gets a team again. As such, I'd be happy to go watch Melo play in Brooklyn too, it's no skin of my d...

I ain't going to f'ing Newark though.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#543 » by contract » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:28 pm

ClarenceDerozan wrote:He either goes to NJ, extends, or re-signs with Denver, or he loses upwards of 60+M over the years. Sure, he can cry like a baby afterward and demand a trade, but that would be really pathetic.

How would he lose $60m?

Actually his options are to go to NJ, extend, not extend and sign with the Knicks as a free agent ... or exercise his $18.5m player option for 2011-12 and do this all again next season.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#544 » by ClarenceDerozan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:32 pm

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ClarenceDerozan wrote:He either goes to NJ, extends, or re-signs with Denver, or he loses upwards of 60+M over the years. Sure, he can cry like a baby afterward and demand a trade, but that would be really pathetic.

How would he lose $60m?

Actually his options are to go to NJ, extend, not extend and sign with the Knicks as a free agent ... or exercise his $18.5m player option for 2011-12 and do this all again next season.


Under the new CBA the max contract is $55 million over 5 years, no 6th year allowed. As of now he can sign something like 123 million over 6 years with NJ. Of course, I could be wrong but that's what I've gathered from a handful of posters on various sub-boards.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#545 » by darth_federer » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:47 pm

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darth_federer wrote:Do you really think NBA GM's would have spent days on this deal and involved other teams if they hadnt made sure that Melo was ok with going to New Jersey?

Yes, I think they would. Complicated NBA trades are negotiated all the time only to fall apart over 1 piece.


They ve been working on a Melo deal since the beginning of the season. I am 100% certain the Nets checked to make sure that he is ok with playing for them.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#546 » by Nuggets_Talk » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:54 pm

klemen4 wrote:DENVER is delusional...I hope NJN backs out and that DEN loses Melo for nothing in summer.

This is unreal what they are demanding...greedy bastards

They want to get under thE cap saving around 30 mil in salaries and tax money...want multiple picks, Favors and get rid of Harrington

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


oh stfu...teams always (ALWAYS) try to get as much as they can. and for a top ten player, they can try to get the best deal possible. teams will do tihs for any deal, let alone a huge one like this.

melo is the greedy bastard here...he wants his cake and eat it too.

players should not be able to hold teams hostage like this. ruining the nba.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#547 » by ikidunot » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:59 pm

I honestly think Denver don't want to trade Melo. If they did they would have done it by now.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#548 » by Nuggets_Talk » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:59 pm

Jmonty580 wrote:Denver may be running the talks but Melo holds most of the chips. Denver is praying that getting the extention signed means the most to Melo. They will keep playing that angel until the last moment. If Melo holds out he will go to NY and Denver has to settle. If he doesnt, he can end up in NJ or somewhere else I guess. Dont be fooled though, this is about what Melo wants and if he is willing to let that extention go in order to play where he wants to play. Where he wants to play is still up for debate, but at the end of the day he controls his future not Denver.


he does not have a no trade clause and i think he wants an extension before the offseason
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#549 » by TDevilsG » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:00 pm

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Jetset wrote:Touche, judging from your location and seeing as you have an avatar of a team that no longer exists I figured you were also a current Knick fan. Didn't really know that you had to have an avatar and sig of the team you root for. If thats the case I'd better get to work making one.


Hehe, fair enough. I'm old school though, I don't "change" my team just because I move to a different city, or some son of a b.... Oklahoma business man buys our franchise ;)

Since I live in NYC, I do watch a few Knicks games, but I'm pretty much a neutral observer until Seattle gets a team again. As such, I'd be happy to go watch Melo play in Brooklyn too, it's no skin of my d...

I ain't going to f'ing Newark though.


I've been to like thirty games there. There's nothing wrong with the arena, nor the area surrounding it.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#550 » by LApwnd » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:01 pm

Gemini850 wrote:I honestly think Denver don't want to trade Melo. If they did they would have done it by now.


umm yea obviously they dont but they have no choice, the team is losing so its not making it any easier for Melo to want to stay either.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#551 » by magnumt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:01 pm

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darth_federer wrote:Do you really think NBA GM's would have spent days on this deal and involved other teams if they hadnt made sure that Melo was ok with going to New Jersey?

Yes, I think they would. Complicated NBA trades are negotiated all the time only to fall apart over 1 piece.


They ve been working on a Melo deal since the beginning of the season. I am 100% certain the Nets checked to make sure that he is ok with playing for them.


The 4 Team deal that fell apart earlier this Year says :wave:
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#552 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:11 pm

omerome wrote:I won't address you completely like the previous poster did but it's responses like these that show the lack of intelligence and understanding you have.

Whether we get Carmelo or not won't kill the future of the Knicks. The team will improve with or without him.

It really does seem you are more focused on just "1-upping" the Knicks instead of actually rooting for your own team to succeed. I suggest you take some of that energy and put it into something more productive.

You spend all that time quoting and typing some-what of a response that you fail to show how I so quote "show the lack of intelligence and understanding". You shouldn't have even bothered posting quite honestly. You can't count on Amar'e knees to hold up. Look what Kobe is going through on one knee and Amar'e has both knees screwed up. Point is you don't have a lot of time to build around him and still compete.

And no, Carmelo going to the Nets wont kill your future, but it certainly hurts it. Since Leon Rose is behind this trade Melo to NJ possibly means that Paul will join him in NJ. And it would take at least two years for another big superstar to be available, which leads me back to you not having alot of time.

And I just think its funny and unfortunate that nothing can go the way the Knicks plan.

Blackmun wrote:Since I live in NYC, I do watch a few Knicks games, but I'm pretty much a neutral observer until Seattle gets a team again. As such, I'd be happy to go watch Melo play in Brooklyn too, it's no skin of my d...

I ain't going to f'ing Newark though.

If Stern's willing maybe the Hornets can become the Supersonics and you can enjoy CP3 rocking a Sonics jersey for a little while anyway. And lol I don't blame you.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#553 » by AllBall » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:13 pm

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darth_federer wrote:
contract wrote:Yes, I think they would. Complicated NBA trades are negotiated all the time only to fall apart over 1 piece.


They ve been working on a Melo deal since the beginning of the season. I am 100% certain the Nets checked to make sure that he is ok with playing for them.


The 4 Team deal that fell apart earlier this Year says :wave:


Which deal? I can't remember right now...I need my coffee, lol
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#554 » by Jose_Matador » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:15 pm

Just heard that Denver could very well flip Devin Harris for Batum after wards.


Ujiri is a red headed orphan for possibly getting Favors and Batum for a disgruntled Carmelo... this is asinine.

as of this season Denver could possible have a starting five of ....


Ty Lawson
Smith/Afflalo
Batum
Favors
Nene

or at worst ...

Harris/Lawson
Smith
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Favors
Nene

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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#555 » by magnumt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:20 pm

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darth_federer wrote:They ve been working on a Melo deal since the beginning of the season. I am 100% certain the Nets checked to make sure that he is ok with playing for them.


The 4 Team deal that fell apart earlier this Year says :wave:


Which deal? I can't remember right now...I need my coffee, lol


The Jazz-Bobcats-Nets-Nuggets deal right before the Season started.

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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#556 » by magnumt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:20 pm

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magnumt wrote:
darth_federer wrote:They ve been working on a Melo deal since the beginning of the season. I am 100% certain the Nets checked to make sure that he is ok with playing for them.


The 4 Team deal that fell apart earlier this Year says :wave:


Which deal? I can't remember right now...I need my coffee, lol


The Jazz-Bobcats-Nets-Nuggets deal right before the Season started.

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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#557 » by darth_federer » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:22 pm

Deals can fall through but I was talking about the idea that Melo would not go to New Jersey. There would be no discussion period if he said that he would sign an extension there.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#558 » by magnumt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:25 pm

darth_federer wrote:Deals can fall through but I was talking about the idea that Melo would not go to New Jersey. There would be no discussion period if he said that he would sign an extension there.


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You CLEARLY said that the Teams would not work on a deal unless they got some sort of assurance from Melo.

I showed you proof of that otherwise. So yeah. :thumbsup:

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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#559 » by omerome » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:27 pm

Jetset wrote:[You spend all that time quoting and typing a some-what of a response that you fail to show how I so quote "show the lack of intelligence and understanding". You shouldn't have even bothered posting quite honestly. You can't count on Amar'e knees to hold up. Look what Kobe is going through on one knee and Amar'e has both knees screwed up. Point is you don't have a lot of time to build around him and still compete.

And no, Carmelo going to the Nets wont kill your future, but it certainly hurts it. Since Leon Rose is behind this trade Melo to NJ possibly means that Paul will join him in NJ. And it would take at least two years for another big superstar to be available, which leads me back to you not having alot of time.

The purpose of your posts has brought nothing of real value to the discussion other than to incite and start trouble.

No one knows how Amare's knees hold up but it seems that you are almost hoping that he will get hurt just to "stick it to us". Signing him was a great move whether you like it or not and he's brought a winning culture to the franchise which we haven't had in years.

Comparing his knees to Kobe is a bad example because it's not the same situation. And how are Amar'e's knees screwed up again? I must of missed the memo when he's currently playing the best season of his career.

You're just speculating that if Carmelo signs with the Nets, then CP3 will join him. And even if he does, that's still a ways away. Who knows what can change between now and then? What if the Knicks improve by other means which no one knows yet?
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#560 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:27 pm

Jose_Matador wrote:Just heard that Denver could very well flip Devin Harris for Batum after wards.


Ujiri is a red headed orphan for possibly getting Favors and Batum for a disgruntled Carmelo... this is asinine.

as of this season Denver could possible have a starting five of ....


Ty Lawson
Smith/Afflalo
Batum
Favors
Nene

Thats a pretty damn good team, and they get two first rounders. Denver needs to just pull the trigger.

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