Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[bruddahmanmatt]

Oh really? I love the internets...

LeBron James is leaning towards joining Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade on the Miami Heat, according to Chris Broussard of ESPN.

Broussard reports that the dial on the LeBron-o-meter is hovering dangerously close to Miami, and that LeBron has, “concerns about signing a six-year deal [in Cleveland] and ending up ‘31 years old, with bad knees and no title.’”

You see the bolded part there. That is the clue to knowing it was after SAS reported it and when ESPN's reporters and their "sources" where finally in agreement.

OWNED. SAS reported it before EVERYONE, like a week in advance. Broussard jumped on board when the clock was nearing zero but before that he was all over the map from Cleveland to New York to Chicago.

[Blackmun]

You see the bolded part there. That is the clue to knowing it was after SAS reported it and when ESPN's reporters and their "sources" where finally in agreement.

I have never said he was the first to report it, it was simply counter evidence to the guy who claimed Broussard did not say he was going to Miami.

And I really did not put any effort into finding his first Heat prediction, I simply picked the article on top of the Google list.

[bruddahmanmatt]

You see the bolded part there. That is the clue to knowing it was after SAS reported it and when ESPN's reporters and their "sources" where finally in agreement.

I have never said he was the first to report it, it was simply counter evidence to the guy who claimed Broussard did not say he was going to Miami.

And I really did not put any effort into finding his first Heat prediction, I simply picked the article on top of the Google list.

Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. He only reported it at the very last minute. Up until that point he was completely talking out of his ass. Kind of hard to take a guy seriously as a source of legit inside information when all he does is spew BS right up until the very last minute. Broussard had repeatedly attempted to refute SAS's claims up until he realized that Smith was in fact right all along.

[Jetset]

OWNED. SAS reported it before EVERYONE, like a week in advance. Broussard jumped on board when the clock was nearing zero but before that he was all over the map from Cleveland to New York to Chicago.

Calm down Jesus no need for the caps. And "OWNED"...really? I thought that phrase had ran its course. This thread isn't about the day LeBron decided to join the Heat and the Earth tilting on its axis moments later. This thread is about a less important player damn it. With that said I think him realizing 60 mil is too much to leave on the table will sign the extension and be a Brooklynite. He just better hope his agent can pull some strings to get him some help.

[MitchSlapped]

Before resuming trade talks for Carmelo Anthony(notes) on Monday, the Denver Nuggets delivered a stern warning to the New Jersey Nets: Unless the public nature of these trade discussions becomes private, be warned that we will send Anthony to the New York Knicks.

Nothing else the Nuggets could’ve said would send such chills of unease through the Nets, and that’s why Denver made the threat, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Would the Nuggets do such a thing out of spite? Would they take a lesser package out of vengeance? No one could be sure, but it sure delivered one more element of drama and intrigue to these trade talks.

Indeed, the tone of the discussions between the Nuggets and Nets dramatically changed on Monday. Executives went underground with talks, and several agents were frustrated they could no longer get information from the two teams about where the talks stood. Sources still believed the Nets and Nuggets had the framework of a deal, but the talks had retreated from what one source deemed “really close” on Sunday.

Denver pushed a reset button on the three-team, 13-player blockbuster as it wanted more payroll relief and seemed determined to find a way to shed themselves of the four years and $28 million left on Al Harrington’s(notes) contract. For a young Nuggets management team under siege, this threat was something of a show of muscle.

The Nets and Detroit Pistons believed they had an arrangement in place Sunday that would’ve sent Anthony, Nuggets point guard Chauncey Billups(notes) and Pistons guard Richard Hamilton(notes) to the Nets as part of the blockbuster deal. Once the Nets and Pistons worked out the details of a side component to the 13-player deal on Sunday afternoon, the two teams were surprised to find Denver general manager Masai Ujiri wanting to replace players in the framework of the overall trade, sources said.

Anthony’s agent, Leon Rose, has worked relentlessly to help structure the package of players that will arrive in New Jersey with Anthony.

Nuggets officials were angry with the insinuation they had backed away, insisting they never agreed to a scenario where they would complete the deal. As one Denver official told Yahoo! Sports late Sunday, “People are trying to pressure us.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... rade011011

Knicks fans must be loving this right now.

[AllBall]

Y! Sources: Denver threatens New Jersey: Unless tone changes in 'Melo talks, watch us trade him to Knicks. http://tinyurl.com/4hyje8y

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

lmao, wtf is going on here!?

[Jetset]

lmao @ Denver getting feisty in these trade talks.

[bruddahmanmatt]

OWNED. SAS reported it before EVERYONE, like a week in advance. Broussard jumped on board when the clock was nearing zero but before that he was all over the map from Cleveland to New York to Chicago.

Calm down Jesus no need for the caps. And "OWNED"...really? I thought that phrase had ran its course. This thread isn't about the day LeBron decided to join the Heat and the Earth tilting on its axis moments later. This thread is about a less important player damn it. With that said I think him realizing 60 mil is too much to leave on the table will sign the extension and be a Brooklynite. He just better hope his agent can pull some strings to get him some help.

PWNED WITH A P.

[MitchSlapped]

And btw regarding who broke LeBron to Miami, SAS reported it in late June but honestly he just pulled that out of his ass for attention. People around him only told him that they think it might happen but he wasn't reporting anything true.

And if not SAS, Broussard still isn't the one who broke the news. Knicks writer Alan Hahn broke it the night before "The Decision" on twitter that his sources are telling him that LeBron is going to Miami. Broussard just followed it up later the next day on ESPN.

[Childs2Dudley]

Knicks fans are not Melo or bust.

In fact, they would prefer a defensive big man who can rebound like Camby. Not saying Knick fans don't want a guy like Carmelo but right now their weakness is a lck of quality big men other than Amare, not more scoring.

Nice to see Denver flexing their juice card though.

[Jetset]

Knicks fans are not Melo or bust.

In fact, they would prefer a defensive big man who can rebound like Camby. Not saying Knick fans don't want a guy like Carmelo but right now their weakness is a lck of quality big men other than Amare, not more scoring.

Nice to see Denver flexing their juice card though.

I disagree the Knicks need Melo in order to be a major force in the conference and threaten MIA. No big is going to provide what Melo can. And I love this aggressive style Uriji is using.

[HeyJoe]

Before resuming trade talks for Carmelo Anthony(notes) on Monday, the Denver Nuggets delivered a stern warning to the New Jersey Nets: Unless the public nature of these trade discussions becomes private, be warned that we will send Anthony to the New York Knicks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... rade011011

Knicks fans must be loving this right now.

Y! Sources: Denver threatens New Jersey: Unless tone changes in 'Melo talks, watch us trade him to Knicks. http://tinyurl.com/4hyje8y

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

lmao, wtf is going on here!?

LOL are denver's FO 5 year olds? or are they talking to NJ's FO like they're 5 years olds?

[wang000hk]

You must be joking,right?
That team will win 25-30 games if lucky,let alone making playoff in the west.
You are taking out the best and 2nd best player from a team of 20-16 record.
Who will be the 1st option on that team?
Nene? He wll struggle with no one take pressure from him,he's no amare.
Lawson? I still think he's just a good starter on playoff team,not a franchise player.
What if Favors becomes a bust like Kwame?
As for others,they are really just role players.
That team has no true 1st option,no player can play in clutch.

They have good young talents,i will give you that.

couple points.... the 20-16 is a bit deceiving considering the distractions and injuries to the team. shelden williams (aka practice player for boston celtics/atlanta hawks) has gotten a lot of starts this season because of injuries to bird/kmart. billups was in a huge slump with a bum wrist. melo's sister just passed away....and the whole trade debacle has been an obvious distraction to him and the team. so it's not like as currently constructed the best they could do is 20-16. at best they're probably 3rd in the west and mid-50's in wins. you're not really taking away the two best players from a 45 win team and saying they still would make the playoffs.

nene's arguably better than billups at this point in their respective careers. PER over 20, always at the top in +/-.

lawson as a starter has put up some pretty darn good games when billups was out...this season and last. he'd be closing out games in p&r situations with nene. and with afflalo/morrow on the wings (both 40%+ 3 shooters)....it's wouldn't be easy to defend.

with harris/smith/harrington/favors/bird, they'd still have arguably the best bench in the nba. shouldn't have any problem putting up big scoring runs in 2nd quarters & late 3rd/early 4th situations.

and perhaps the most important point....i don't like karl as far as a championship playoff coach goes because i don't think his style bodes well for playoff basketball, and i think he fails to make adjustments in a series.....but the guy does know how to maximize talent and get wins in the regular season. he hasn't had a losing nba record since 1987-1988.

Billups was horrible in the first couple months,but he has been playing better during the stretch without Melo.
He's still the 2nd best player on nuggets,maybe not production wise,but at the very least on leadership.
The only reason Nuggets has reasonable record without Melo last few years is Billups stepping up in most of the games,if you take him away.This team has no leadership and don't know how it takes to win.

Lawson puts up some good numbers as starter,but he's also quite terrible in certain games at starter.He struggles with some of better pg out there.

wow,you still talk how good the bench is? Their playing like crap right now.
JR,Al have 1 good game out of 5 games. Birdman is garbage.
Harris is overrated and injury prone. Favors is still unknown,not sure how good he will be.
I doubt their overall production isn't even on top 10 right now.

The huge problem is that they still lack a go to guy that can make play in clutch. Watch the 76ers,Spurs games last month.

[Jetset]

Before resuming trade talks for Carmelo Anthony(notes) on Monday, the Denver Nuggets delivered a stern warning to the New Jersey Nets: Unless the public nature of these trade discussions becomes private, be warned that we will send Anthony to the New York Knicks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... rade011011

Knicks fans must be loving this right now.

Y! Sources: Denver threatens New Jersey: Unless tone changes in 'Melo talks, watch us trade him to Knicks. http://tinyurl.com/4hyje8y

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

lmao, wtf is going on here!?

LOL are denver's FO 5 year olds? or are they talking to NJ's FO like they're 5 years olds?

They're talking to NJ

[boogie-reke]

This makes no sence at all.. man I wish all this mess was over already.. likely it'll take quite some time.

[bruddahmanmatt]

Sooooooo basically those of us on the first few pages who called "BS" were right then? This is, YET AGAIN, another attempt at posturing by the Nuggets in order to get the Knicks to up their offer for Anthony. Pathetic Denver, just pathetic, and quite frankly it's getting VERY old. Three BS trades that never had any shot of going down just to get the Knicks to up their offer. Not likely given New Yorks surprising success this year. The Knicks have had a change in priority. Melo would be friggin' luxury but I'm thinking that the New York FO might actually be playing this one smart and weighing the potential drawbacks of blowing it all up (once again) for just one guy.

[AllBall]

Sooooooo basically those of us on the first few pages who called "BS" were right then?

Slow down cowboy. This circus ride is far form over. Sit back and enjoy the show.

[Jetset]

Sooooooo basically those of us on the first few pages who called "BS" were right then? This is, YET AGAIN, another attempt at posturing by the Nuggets in order to get the Knicks to up their offer for Anthony. Pathetic Denver, just pathetic, and quite frankly it's getting VERY old. Three BS trades that never had any shot of going down just to get the Knicks to up their offer. Not likely given New Yorks surprising success this year. The Knicks have had a change in priority. Melo would be friggin' luxury but I'm thinking that the New York FO might actually be playing this one smart and weighing the potential drawbacks of blowing it all up (once again) for just one guy.

What are you talking about? All Denver is doing is warning NJ that the trade talk better remain quiet. Have you never heard of a fear tactic?

Sooooooo basically those of us on the first few pages who called "BS" were right then?

Slow down cowboy. This circus ride is far form over. Sit back and enjoy the show.

My thoughts exactly. LAL will be involved next

[bruddahmanmatt]

What are you talking about? All Denver is doing is warning NJ that the trade talk better remain quiet. Have you never heard of a fear tactic?

My thoughts exactly. LAL will be involved next

Except that Denver has already done this...TWICE in fact. That proposed four team trade between Denver, New Jersey, Utah and Charlotte was pretty much debunked as BS once you broke down the pieces being moved and the reason for the Nuggets supposedly "backing out". What it all amounted to was Denver posturing in an attempt to get NY to up their ante for Melo. Judging by the quality of some of your responses however, I wouldn't exactly expect you to know much about that. You can go and dig up the old threads if you want. That old trade was a HUGE smokescreen. The reason Utah and Charlotte are no longer talking to Denver is because they don't want any part of Denver's shenanigans.

As far as this deal is concerned, if it's not Denver posturing than the only explanation IMO is that it's clearly the work of Leon Rose trying to push Melo into something he doesn't want so that Leon can get his percentage in the form of an extension under the current CBA. Why else would Anthony agree to leave a better team to play with Rip Hamilton who (surprise, surprise) is also represented by Leon Rose?

[HeyJoe]

this is getting ridiculous

nets' FO need to finish or pull out before their penises get any smaller