What would save this season?

[Revolutionistt]

Actually, contraction/lockout. That's what would save this season.

lol cmon son. i just dont understand the melo-haters... were giving up devin harris and derrick favors... and honestly derrick favors isnt even necessarily relevant yet... getting melo would help us make the playoffs, put a ton more people in the seats, and sell a lot more team gear etc etc and make the nets as a team relevant again. Idk about you but i like rooting for a relevant team whether they are at the top or just a potential contender

I dont get it either. The Nets are only 4 games out of the 8th seed which Melo could easily help us get. And if he lands here soon enough whos to say they can catch the Knicks and get up to a 5 or 6 seed? Do they win the championship this year? Absolutely not. But its a step forward. I dont get how people think getting a high draft pick is the direction to improvement as opposed to making moves and becoming a playoff team? The Nets are not going to stand pat if the Melo deal gets done. They are still going to make more deals to improve the team and make them elite.

[vincecarter4pres]

Actually, contraction/lockout. That's what would save this season.

lol cmon son. i just dont understand the melo-haters... were giving up devin harris and derrick favors... and honestly derrick favors isnt even necessarily relevant yet... getting melo would help us make the playoffs, put a ton more people in the seats, and sell a lot more team gear etc etc and make the nets as a team relevant again. Idk about you but i like rooting for a relevant team whether they are at the top or just a potential contender

I dont get it either. The Nets are only 4 games out of the 8th seed which Melo could easily help us get. And if he lands here soon enough whos to say they can catch the Knicks and get up to a 5 or 6 seed? Do they win the championship this year? Absolutely not. But its a step forward. I dont get how people think getting a high draft pick is the direction to improvement as opposed to making moves and becoming a playoff team? The Nets are not going to stand pat if the Melo deal gets done. They are still going to make more deals to improve the team and make them elite.

How do we improve to an elite team after this?

Please explain to me how an old, capped out team with long undesirable contracts, completely devoid of trade assets lands another star player.

[vincecarter4pres]

Getting Brook Lopez a penis.

I think he has one, it just needs to undergo circumcision...

I'm pretty sure his is an inny.

[Revolutionistt]

How do we improve to an elite team after this?

Please explain to me how an old, capped out team with long undesirable contracts, completely devoid of trade assets lands another star player.

Whats that thing called? You know where players contracts end and they can choose where they want to sign? Most notably with a team that is going in the right direction and has great talent and just needs that extra guy to make it all work? Damn I cant remember what its called? Oh yeah of course, FREE AGENCY. And what makes you think the Nets will be out of tradeable assets after this trade? If they want to make any moves they still have some first rounders (5 total, minus the 2 they are using in the rumored trade), RIP will be an expiring in I think a year, Hump is playing out of his mind and can be sold high if Melo could be landed before the trade deadline.

You know its really simple, most of the people on this board would rather rebuild through the draft which is fine. That can work. I would like to see the team improve by trading for proven players and attracting high profile free agents.

[vincecarter4pres]

How do we improve to an elite team after this?

Please explain to me how an old, capped out team with long undesirable contracts, completely devoid of trade assets lands another star player.

Whats that thing called? You know where players contracts end and they can choose where they want to sign? Most notably with a team that is going in the right direction and has great talent and just needs that extra guy to make it all work? Damn I cant remember what its called? Oh yeah of course, FREE AGENCY. And what makes you think the Nets will be out of tradeable assets after this trade? If they want to make any moves they still have some first rounders (5 total, minus the 2 they are using in the rumored trade), RIP will be an expiring in I think a year, Hump is playing out of his mind and can be sold high if Melo could be landed before the trade deadline.

You know its really simple, most of the people on this board would rather rebuild through the draft which is fine. That can work. I would like to see the team improve by trading for proven players and attracting high profile free agents.

Yes, because Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, etc., these guys are dying to sign for the MLE or BAE, how silly of me...

Think more along the lines of Jamal Crawford, Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison, Jason Terry, etc.

This team will not be one or two small moves away from a title, it will be one star away from a title, a true star.

It's very arguable that Melo needs to be your second best player in order to be a true contender and I am of the camp that believes that.

Let alone, Chauncey and Rip are just ancient.

Let me put it this way...

If you're fine with a team that is guaranteed being a competitive bottom 4 playoff seed for the next 4 seasons barring any moderate injuries, but a team you flatout know has no shot at the title at all, then you'll love this trade.

We become the Atlanta Hawks at best after this trade with no way to improve enough to be true contenders what so ever.

This is not a basketball trade, it is strictly a marketing and revenue trade, point blank, period.

[nba watcher]

if everyone can think back most of the super stars came into the league showing pure athleticsim, and the ability to make layups/dunks in traffic. jordan, kobe, carter, mcgrady, labron, d-wade, blake griffin and the list goes on and on. we need a scorer, we need some one with a lil flair. I don't know who that is but that's who we need.

[nba watcher]

we need a athlete, some one that cAN RUN, JUMP,layup, and dunk. and we have 7 trys in the next two years, 3 tries this year.

[xam2k7]

How do we improve to an elite team after this?

Please explain to me how an old, capped out team with long undesirable contracts, completely devoid of trade assets lands another star player.

Whats that thing called? You know where players contracts end and they can choose where they want to sign? Most notably with a team that is going in the right direction and has great talent and just needs that extra guy to make it all work? Damn I cant remember what its called? Oh yeah of course, FREE AGENCY. And what makes you think the Nets will be out of tradeable assets after this trade? If they want to make any moves they still have some first rounders (5 total, minus the 2 they are using in the rumored trade), RIP will be an expiring in I think a year, Hump is playing out of his mind and can be sold high if Melo could be landed before the trade deadline.

You know its really simple, most of the people on this board would rather rebuild through the draft which is fine. That can work. I would like to see the team improve by trading for proven players and attracting high profile free agents.

Yes, because Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, etc., these guys are dying to sign for the MLE or BAE, how silly of me...

Think more along the lines of Jamal Crawford, Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison, Jason Terry, etc.

This team will not be one or two small moves away from a title, it will be one star away from a title, a true star.

It's very arguable that Melo needs to be your second best player in order to be a true contender and I am of the camp that believes that.

Let alone, Chauncey and Rip are just ancient.

Let me put it this way...

If you're fine with a team that is guaranteed being a competitive bottom 4 playoff seed for the next 4 seasons barring any moderate injuries, but a team you flatout know has no shot at the title at all, then you'll love this trade.

We become the Atlanta Hawks at best after this trade with no way to improve enough to be true contenders what so ever.

This is not a basketball trade, it is strictly a marketing and revenue trade, point blank, period.

how did the celtics get put together? they had one piece, traded for 2, and drafted 1... we have brook basically, we could be trading for billups, melo, rip, etc etc... and we would most likely hang on to 2 first rounders... that seems like a pretty decent start granted rip and billups arent garnett and allen but we would also have melo and brook with those 2 picks. thats how we would continue to build a team... and we could have cap space in a year or two with billups and rips contracts up to sign a free agent like paul or even one of the 3 in miami if they dont win bc theyr contracts can be up in 3 years

[vincecarter4pres]

Nope absolutely not.

The Celts kept Rondo, Perk and Big Baby.

They had a player better then Melo on the roster already in Pierce.

They had the 5th overall pick to trade for Ray Allen, a player that was about on par with Melo.

They traded for Garnett, one of the best power forwards in NBA history with 2 1st rounders, salary relief and a player that at the time was a similar level prospect to Brook Lopez.

Situations couldn't be more different if you tried.

[xam2k7]

i really disagree that pierce is that much better than melo. a rondo could be found in one of those 2 draft picks we keep. brook is definitely not garnett but hes an essential piece. billups and rip = allen in my opinion.... so your right, the situations arent the same, but they really are not terribly different. all it takes is one offseason where we could swing a trade for CP3 or something like that, i absolutely agree that the celtics situation that occurred wont happen to us in that it was one offseason to a championship but i disagree with you that this trade doesnt put us in a great situation to improve and become a contender in the next 2-5 years

[vincecarter4pres]

i really disagree that pierce is that much better than melo. a rondo could be found in one of those 2 draft picks we keep. brook is definitely not garnett but hes an essential piece. billups and rip = allen in my opinion.... so your right, the situations arent the same, but they really are not terribly different. all it takes is one offseason where we could swing a trade for CP3 or something like that, i absolutely agree that the celtics situation that occurred wont happen to us in that it was one offseason to a championship but i disagree with you that this trade doesnt put us in a great situation to improve and become a contender in the next 2-5 years

I'm not saying Pierce is night and day better and that year they won the title was probably the last of his true prime, I'm just saying he was better and it was different circumstances.

Rondo is the 3rd or 4th best point guard in the league and you make it sound like he's a dime a dozen.

And we wouldn't have the cap to sign a big FA ever again after this trade. Well maybe in 2014...

And how do we trade for CP3? Oh yeah, we send Lopez.

[SpeedyG]

i really disagree that pierce is that much better than melo. a rondo could be found in one of those 2 draft picks we keep. brook is definitely not garnett but hes an essential piece. billups and rip = allen in my opinion.... so your right, the situations arent the same, but they really are not terribly different. all it takes is one offseason where we could swing a trade for CP3 or something like that, i absolutely agree that the celtics situation that occurred wont happen to us in that it was one offseason to a championship but i disagree with you that this trade doesnt put us in a great situation to improve and become a contender in the next 2-5 years

The problem is...should we make this Melo trade, we'd be so deprived of assets that it's going to take near impossibility to land Paul (barring some kind of miracle...or *wink wink* type of happenings).

Hey, I'm all for getting Melo. But not at all this ridiculous cost that Denver wants us to give up.

Harris (who they flip for Batum), Favors OR our own pick, Murphy, plus another first rounder. They accept that, Melo agrees to an extension...then let's do it.

[xam2k7]

i really disagree that pierce is that much better than melo. a rondo could be found in one of those 2 draft picks we keep. brook is definitely not garnett but hes an essential piece. billups and rip = allen in my opinion.... so your right, the situations arent the same, but they really are not terribly different. all it takes is one offseason where we could swing a trade for CP3 or something like that, i absolutely agree that the celtics situation that occurred wont happen to us in that it was one offseason to a championship but i disagree with you that this trade doesnt put us in a great situation to improve and become a contender in the next 2-5 years

I'm not saying Pierce is night and day better and that year they won the title was probably the last of his true prime, I'm just saying he was better and it was different circumstances.

Rondo is the 3rd or 4th best point guard in the league and you make it sound like he's a dime a dozen.

And we wouldn't have the cap to sign a big FA ever again after this trade. Well maybe in 2014...

And how do we trade for CP3? Oh yeah, we send Lopez.

ur right that rondo is one of the top PGs in the league but the fact is he was still drafted 21st and not projected to be as elite as he has become... just saying crazier things have happened.

as far as cp3 is concerned who knows how the NBA will handle the hornets ownership and they may take a couple picks and a few expiring contracts next year especially if theyr trying to move the team and cut costs... thats how the celtics got ray allen

[vincecarter4pres]

Actually the Celtics sent the 5th overall pick, Wally World when he was at least considered solid and some expirings for Ray Allen.

If we somehow got Chris Paul and kept Lopez, it would be more along the lines of the Pau Gasol ripoff and we don't even have a prospect nearly as good as Marc Gasol to send them.

[xam2k7]

for ray allen AND big baby... taken in the second round lol. i get what youre saying, i just think in today's nba anything is possible, especially with the economy the way it is and the deep pockets of proky who isnt afraid to pay luxury tax in order to win

[vincecarter4pres]

for ray allen AND big baby... taken in the second round lol. i get what youre saying, i just think in today's nba anything is possible, especially with the economy the way it is and the deep pockets of proky who isnt afraid to pay luxury tax in order to win

I just don't see any scenario after this trade where we get Chris Paul or Deron Williams without giving up Brook.

That Proky angle just isn't especially realistic in the NBA within the parameters of the salary cap unless you have pure cap space or huge non-guaranteed contracts to trade and a player like Paul is still going to demand a hefty ransom even if it ultimately looks like he's going to leave.

I mean we lose almost all leverage anyway if we don't have the cap space to outright sign him the offseason he becomes a free agent, so we can't pull some **** where we say, accept what we are offering cause he's going to come here in the offseason anyway.

It would be a completely hollow threat, because what's he going to say? "I'm going to leave for NJ and sign for the MLE this summer if you don't trade me there right now"

We trade for Melo, say hello to Chris Paul in a Knix uniform, feeding Amar'e in the P'n'R...

The Knicks have the upper hand big time here.

They may even secretely want us to land Melo if the deal that is being reported goes down.

We become a bottom seed playoff team, Chris Paul or Deron basically gets gifted to them next season and they become true contenders...

Win win.