Miami is #1, did you think it would happen this quickly?

shaqfan1 · Post #101 » by **shaqfan1** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:55 pm

patagonia wrote:I'm still not sold on the Heat as the top team in the East. After starting 9-8, only 7 of their last 22 opponents have had a winning record. Additionally, the Heat have been relatively lucky with injuries. While Heat fans will point to Miller and Haslem missing games, it's clear those guys aren't nearly as important to their teams and KG and Perkins or Noah and Boozer.

Actually, out of those 22 games, Miami has played 8 games against teams with winning records, not 7. They went 7-1 in those 8 games.

Sedale Threatt · Post #102 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:00 pm

I knew they'd get it together at some point. Wade and LeBron are just too good. But after the 9-8 start, I was holding out hope it would take them at least another year. Looks like that was wishful thinking.

Z[dt] · Post #103 » by **Z[dt]** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:06 pm

Harry_Seaward wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Having the two best players in the NBA scoring the basketball for your team does not really constitute as a "clown offense".

In fact I'd argue with a bit more fine tuning and continued improvement James and Wade could turn even the most stifiling D into "Clown Defense"....

PS, putting the word clown in front of things is rad.

Their defense is legit credited to erik spoelstra, but i'm not respecting that clown offense even if they are a top offense. Its a Cleveland and miami heat offense of last season merging together. Lebron and Wade take turns holding the ball, deciding what they want to do with it as the shotclock is being burn. Sorry, buts that not organized basketball....

Spanish_Laker · Post #104 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:07 pm

Leading NBA standings in early January is not a big deal.

SolidSnake008 · Post #105 » by **SolidSnake008** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:07 pm

FinNasty wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Schematically, what makes it a "clown offense"? Please, break it down and go into detail...

They use a ton of P&R's... is that "clown offense" to you?

maybe he's talking about how Wade and Lebron release on almost all the opponents shots hit or miss....My AAU team used to do that a lot back in the day but that is only 1 aspect though :dontknow:

FinNasty · Post #106 » by **FinNasty** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:08 pm

Z[dt] wrote:
Harry_Seaward wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Having the two best players in the NBA scoring the basketball for your team does not really constitute as a "clown offense".

In fact I'd argue with a bit more fine tuning and continued improvement James and Wade could turn even the most stifiling D into "Clown Defense"....

PS, putting the word clown in front of things is rad.

There defense is legit credited to erik spoelstra, but i'm not respecting that clown offense even if they are a top offense. Its a Cleveland and miami heat offense of last season merging together. Lebron and Wade take turns holding the ball, deciding what they want to do with it as the shotclock is being burn. Sorry, buts that not organized basketball....

So, it is your impression that Miami basically only runs Iso plays for both Wade and Bron?

Have you watched the Heat this year?

randy424 · Post #107 » by **randy424** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:14 pm

heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

andre316 · Post #108 » by **andre316** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:16 pm

FinNasty wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Schematically, what makes it a "clown offense"? Please, break it down and go into detail...

They use a ton of P&R's... is that "clown offense" to you?

I would agree that our offense was a joke over the first few games of the season, but with Wade shaking the rust off and all the guys getting used to each other it's gotten a lot better.

Also helping us in this run are little things like more 2/3 P&Rs between Wade and LeBron, and better movement off the ball from those guys (who have to fight their strange desire to camp out at the 3-point line while the other handles the ball).

Still not the prettiest offense in the league, but by the standards of Pat Riley's "Heat culture" over the last 15 years this is the closest we've ever been to Showtime.

Celts17Pride · Post #109 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:18 pm

randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

JordansBulls · Post #110 » by **JordansBulls** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:19 pm

ripthecord wrote:With roughly half of the season done, Miami is now the #1 team in the Eastern Conference. In the last 22 games they have won 95% of the time, most by blow-outs. (21-1)

Their record now stands at 30-9, and its only mid-way through the season. Did you think it would happen this quickly?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/stor ... EastChamps

PolakFury · Post #111 » by **PolakFury** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:20 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

Ouch

FinNasty · Post #112 » by **FinNasty** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:24 pm

JordansBulls wrote:
ripthecord wrote:With roughly half of the season done, Miami is now the #1 team in the Eastern Conference. In the last 22 games they have won 95% of the time, most by blow-outs. (21-1)

Their record now stands at 30-9, and its only mid-way through the season. Did you think it would happen this quickly?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/stor ... EastChamps

Yes... before the season they were predicted to win the East by many...

But the thread isnt talking about is it a surprise that they are in 1st. It is asking if you are surprised that they were able to get into 1st by early January after starting the season off 9-8. You'd have to agree that you didnt think they'd claim the top spot in the East so quickly after that 9-8 start, no?

Or were you predicting a 21-1 run when they were 9-8?

Harry_Seaward · Post #113 » by **Harry_Seaward** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:32 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

Cause the Cavaliers had Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh too, right? It's exactly the same thing I agree.

andre316 · Post #114 » by **andre316** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:32 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

With Dwyane Wade playing the role of Mo Williams, and featuring Chris Bosh as Antawn Jamison...

edit - beaten to the punch, but I'll leave mine up because I think it's funnier...

calamity · Post #115 » by **calamity** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:35 pm

andre316 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

With Dwyane Wade playing the role of Mo Williams, and featuring Chris Bosh as Antawn Jamison...

edit - beaten to the punch, but I'll leave mine up because I think it's funnier...

win

triplet1984 · Post #116 » by **triplet1984** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:39 pm

Yes I am surprised that they are able to get to 1st after being 9-8. It's extremely impressive. Particularly their transition game. Wade and Lebron are terrifying in transition. I dunno why they didn't just do that from the beginning.

Lebron's still a douche

Harry_Seaward · Post #117 » by **Harry_Seaward** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:47 pm

Remember the good old days (weeks ago) when everyone was saying:

Christmas day will be THE benchmark for Miami!!!! Let's see how they fare against a REAL TEAM like the Lake show....!!!

Good times.

Chosen01 · Post #118 » by **Chosen01** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:02 pm

Z[dt] wrote:
Harry_Seaward wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Having the two best players in the NBA scoring the basketball for your team does not really constitute as a "clown offense".

In fact I'd argue with a bit more fine tuning and continued improvement James and Wade could turn even the most stifiling D into "Clown Defense"....

PS, putting the word clown in front of things is rad.

There defense is legit credited to erik spoelstra, but i'm not respecting that clown offense even if they are a top offense. Its a Cleveland and miami heat offense of last season merging together. Lebron and Wade take turns holding the ball, deciding what they want to do with it as the shotclock is being burn. Sorry, buts that not organized basketball....

Yea its quite clear you stopped watching the heat after the 9-8 start, we all admit Heat were playing Cleveland ball before but since then everyone has been moving, Wade has thrived off the ball like Heat fans and some others said he would, Bosh moves well to get open for his mid range shots and found his niche/role which he was pretty clueless in the first 17 games.When Wade is handling the ball, LeBron has cut a lot more than you'd see watching Cleveland.Another thing is they haven't been shooting as many dumb shots like they did, and have been going back to driving and drawing fouls at a higher clip.

Celts17Pride wrote:
randy424 wrote:heat look like an unstoppable irresistible force!

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years.

/facepalm

FinNasty · Post #119 » by **FinNasty** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:06 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:
FinNasty wrote:
Z[dt] wrote:AAU clown offense will get you wins in a regular season, but this clown offense will ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Schematically, what makes it a "clown offense"? Please, break it down and go into detail...

They use a ton of P&R's... is that "clown offense" to you?

maybe he's talking about how Wade and Lebron release on almost all the opponents shots hit or miss....My AAU team used to do that a lot back in the day but that is only 1 aspect though

Then how have Brons and Wades rebounding sky rocketed from earlier in the year?

Post #120 » by **Flash3** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:09 pm

Marilyn Monroe is a Heat fan

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/ ... vzM1xsE%3D