[Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver!

[Starksfor3]

I bet LeDouche is laughing it up as he and his cronies make sure the Cheat face as little competition as possible on their way to multiple titles.

Makes me sick. The NBA has been taken over by LRMwhateverthe****theyarecalled

[K_ick_God]

How strange, by the way, was this report from Wojina. Then ESPN said it never happened. The Nuggets threatened the Nets with the Knicks? Doubt it. That just makes Melo more likely to read it and say "Well then if the Knicks are in the mix, trade me there."

I believe Melo has already given the go-ahead to get him to New Jersey. I'm not sure what Sheridan heard but maybe it was a relative who is a Knicks fan who wanted him at MSG.

Melo just seems so, well, mellow and basically neutral about everything. He doesn't seem passionate at all. He doesn't really care what happens, it seems. The Nets are going to be a bottom-bracket playoff club, if that, and nobody will care about the Nets when they're in Brooklyn either. But Melo is just going to take the money and run.

BTW, New York sports is not really about where you play, at least not where you currently play. The Nets will not add to their fan base by moving to Brooklyn. There are two NY football teams that play in New Jersey but nobody cares -- it's about the team itself and New York is fully owned by the Knicks. Knicks to Nets is not even close. The Yankees-Mets is a lot closer and that's not too close either.

Melo will be on a team nobody cares about and with a crap roster. But best believe, he's ready to do it. That idiot Leon Rose has won the battle because Melo has no will or strength -- he's just willing to do whatever. Just another bought & paid for athlete, it seems. How predictable, boring & lame.

You don't call other reporters on your own network "wrong" like Sheridan did unless your source is legit.

I don't like doom'n'gloom KnicksGod. It's just unnatural.

Eh, Melo is just not good enough to be worth getting your hopes up that one reporter, Sheridan, is right while all of the others are wrong. I doubt that's true, and, like I say, Melo is no lebron. Therefore, no reason to hope against hope that somehow he won't say yes. Too much reason to think he's already given in.

I think Sheridan is just wrong here unfortunately.

If Melo was lebron, we could cling to hope. But he's just not worth it frankly.

[aggo]

i'm ok with Melo not coming here

we still have tons of money to spend.

I just dont want to turn this into a "wait til 2012 howard, deron" thread

if Melo goes to NJ safe to say CP3 will find a way there too, regardless of the cap situation. And i'm tired of putting all our eggs into chasing max cats who only use their interest in NY to market themselves to other clubs.

We cannot waste any more prime amare years. If no Melo now or in offseason, we have to spend money this year. enough with the eggs in one basket free agent strategy.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I don't like doom'n'gloom KnicksGod. It's just unnatural.

+1

It's not over yet...I don't know why people are saying that it's a done deal. It's been a done deal 2(3?) times before.

Jay-Z "The strong move quiet, the weak start riots."

Donnie has been keeping his cards close to the table and very little has been leaked to the media from "NY sources." He just sweeps in from left field when nobody expects it...did anyone have any idea that Zebo/Crawford trades were coming? The Nets have been all over the news...that's one of the reasons why I don't think they're going to end up with him-this is WAY too public for it to be legit. VERY few trades end up being this public.

I still think Melo ends up in NY...still undecided on FA/Trade (leaning towards trade...Denver is going to want something in return).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXwmDGJAB8[/youtube]

[Knicks_Fan2]

I mean Sheridan certainly did standby his source yesterday, and in the past, said in terms of trustworthiness his source--on a scale of 1-10--was an 11. It's not like he needs to make his name with a comment like that so he was pretty convinced. Maybe Melo changed his mind but I doubt Sheridan was wrong.

[drp07644]

How strange, by the way, was this report from Wojina. Then ESPN said it never happened. The Nuggets threatened the Nets with the Knicks? Doubt it. That just makes Melo more likely to read it and say "Well then if the Knicks are in the mix, trade me there."

I believe Melo has already given the go-ahead to get him to New Jersey. I'm not sure what Sheridan heard but maybe it was a relative who is a Knicks fan who wanted him at MSG.

Melo just seems so, well, mellow and basically neutral about everything. He doesn't seem passionate at all. He doesn't really care what happens, it seems. The Nets are going to be a bottom-bracket playoff club, if that, and nobody will care about the Nets when they're in Brooklyn either. But Melo is just going to take the money and run.

BTW, New York sports is not really about where you play, at least not where you currently play. The Nets will not add to their fan base by moving to Brooklyn. There are two NY football teams that play in New Jersey but nobody cares -- they're popular because they are considered NY teams. The Nets will never be a real NY team. It's about the team itself and New York is fully owned by the Knicks.

The Nets already played in NY for those who don't know their history. And nobody really cared about them then either -- so they moved to New Jersey.

Knicks to Nets is not even close. The Yankees-Mets is a lot closer and that's not too close either.

Melo will be on a team nobody cares about and with a crap roster. But best believe, he's ready to do it. That idiot Leon Rose has won the battle because Melo has no will or strength -- he's just willing to do whatever. Just another bought & paid for athlete, it seems. How predictable, boring & lame.

when i see YOU saying this kind of stuff, that's when i get sad since you're one of the most positive guys on here

[rwill784]

Dude get real, now that its looking like melo is gone now he's not a franchise player? Lol, that's the biggest lie I've heard today. Melo is in the elite class in the nba, he's hands down the best scorer in the league period. He has no injury concerns and doesn't cause caos in a lockerroom and isn't a crybaby. To say he isn't a franchise player is just wrong period.

And when were the nuggets anywhere near average when he got there? They sucked! Melo took a basement team and made them elite, and he's taken them out of the first round before so stop lying with the first round exits crap.

Dudes gettin all butthurt because me may not come and telling lies on a great player is just sad.

First off, you better know who you are coming at before you start mouthing off. I have always said Melo wasn't franchise. On top of that, I don't think he is going to NJ, so this isn't a sour grapes thing. In fact, I still believe we are getting him. So check yourself. I also said Amare isnt true franchise, so I'm consistent in my criteria.

Why is it "wrong period"? Because you say so? The facts are with me. 6 first round exits in 7 years. Who would build around that? Being an elite scorer, and just average in everything else (outside of rebounding) does not make you franchise.

Lol...guy you definitely take this too personal to come off like a complete e-thug like that. Just because YOU believe Melo ain't franchise doesn't mean crap, when there are people who get paid to judge that and they say that he is, so I take their word before a angry e-thug anyday of the week. If you believe a guy that mentioned in MVP talks isn't franchise then please just stop watching basketball because that's the meaning of a franchise player.

By your standards their have only been a handful a franchise players in the league EVER. Carmelo made a putrid team a playoff team and threat in the west for the last 7 years. That franchise has done nothing but give him washed up has-beens for help since day one. (AI, Martin, Billups-although he's still good) And he's done nothing but win! That team is a basement dweller when he leaves dispite who they get in trades, and that's the truth and you know it cuz. How can Melo be expected to take his team to the chip when their next best threat on the team is a chucker named J,R Smith? Melo SHOULD demand to be traded because he's rotting away on that team like KG did in Minny.

And last I checked the stats that usually measure a player are ppg/rpg/apg/ and wins and his assists are pretty normal for a superstar and everything else is elite. Denver built a horrible sorrounding cast for Melo, nothing but has-beens and cancers on a roster ain't gonna win squat. If Lebron was in the west with that Cavs team they'd be one and done every year too.

And if your measuring stick of Melo is as wrong as it was with Amare then I WELCOME melo to the Knicks because he'll be averaging at least 30/8/5 on this squad!

[seren]

In case you did not know, Sheridan's source is Melo himself. Sheridan even admitted to it on a chat. If Melo goes to NJ and signs the extension, it is Melo who changed his mind. It is not about whose source is better.

[Starksfor3]

The best thing to hope for now is that Denver gets hot and NJ starts winning a few games here and there also.

[K_ick_God]

I mean Sheridan certainly did standby his source yesterday, and in the past, said in terms of trustworthiness his source--on a scale of 1-10--was an 11. It's not like he needs to make his name with a comment like that so he was pretty convinced. Maybe Melo changed his mind but I doubt Sheridan was wrong.

Yeah that's what I mean. I'm sure Melo has said "Hell no" to the Nets privately but now that they're putting together that powerhouse of Billups and Rip, he's got to go. In other words, he was always ready to fold his tent. He didn't have the fortitude to withstand the pressure of the extension.

If Rip was the deciding factor lol, you know Melo was ready to fold all along. Gimme a break! lol

Also, and forgive the bluntness, but I haven't been impressed with Melo's level of sophistication. I mean he is letting Leon Rose and WWW run the show and Leon has one and one motivation ONLY: Avoid losing cash. Leon represents the Nets more than Melo and Melo is just not smart or strong enough to control his own business.

Bottom line is that Leon knows the chances that Melo will lose a lot of money are very low. But even if the chance is only 5%, Leon would rather have Melo in NJ on a bad team to avoid that 5% than to have Melo where he really wants to be. Because Leon doesn't care about Melo. He cares about himself.

But Melo is just along for the ride. It's kind of sad to see.

[GONYK]

Lol...guy you definitely take this too personal to come off like a complete e-thug like that. Just because YOU believe Melo ain't franchise doesn't mean crap, when there are people who get paid to judge that and they say that he is, so I take their word before a angry e-thug anyday of the week. If you believe a guy that mentioned in MVP talks isn't franchise then please just stop watching basketball because that's the meaning of a franchise player.

By your standards their have only been a handful a franchise players in the league EVER. Carmelo made a putrid team a playoff team and threat in the west for the last 7 years. That franchise has done nothing but give him washed up has-beens for help since day one. (AI, Martin, Billups-although he's still good) And he's done nothing but win! That team is a basement dweller when he leaves dispite who they get in trades, and that's the truth and you know it cuz. How can Melo be expected to take his team to the chip when their next best threat on the team is a chucker named J,R Smith? Melo SHOULD demand to be traded because he's rotting away on that team like KG did in Minny.

And last I checked the stats that usually measure a player are ppg/rpg/apg/ and wins and his assists are pretty normal for a superstar and everything else is elite. Denver built a horrible sorrounding cast for Melo, nothing but has-beens and cancers on a roster ain't gonna win squat. If Lebron was in the west with that Cavs team they'd be one and done every year too.

And if your measuring stick of Melo is as wrong as it was with Amare then I WELCOME melo to the Knicks because he'll be averaging at least 30/8/5 on this squad!

I don't care if you don't agree with my criteria. You were questioning my objectivity, which made you just flat wrong.

And you are correct, there have only been a handful of TRUE franchise players in league history.

Also, Denver has not built a horrible supporting cast for Melo. Please. Melo took that team as far as he could because he, as a player, has major flaws.

[seren]

I don't care if you don't agree with my criteria. You were questioning my objectivity, which made you just flat wrong.

And you are correct, there have only been a handful of TRUE franchise players in league history.

Also, Denver has not built a horrible supporting cast for Melo. Please. Melo took that team as far as he could because he, as a player, has major flaws.

Ehh. You should be on heavy drugs if you believe Denver minus Melo was a better or even equal roster than Lakers minus Kobe. It is not even close.

[knicks742]

Alright, cool it with the name calling and personal insults, we can agree to disagree.

[GONYK]

I don't care if you don't agree with my criteria. You were questioning my objectivity, which made you just flat wrong.

And you are correct, there have only been a handful of TRUE franchise players in league history.

Also, Denver has not built a horrible supporting cast for Melo. Please. Melo took that team as far as he could because he, as a player, has major flaws.

Ehh. You should be on heavy drugs if you believe Denver minus Melo was a better or even equal roster than Lakers minus Kobe. It is not even close.

What does one have to do with the other? I never said that team was good enough to win rings, but it was certainly better than 6 first round exits in 7 years.

Didn't you say before that Melo is better than Kobe in his prime? I wouldn't be so quick to question who is on drugs.

[AllanHoustonFan]

Sheridan is still sticking with his Melo will only extend with the Knicks story

One league source told ESPN.com that acquiring Derrick Favors and Batum is the "grand slam" that Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri would like to hit, but he remains handcuffed by Anthony's preference for a trade to the New York Knicks. As I reported last month, Anthony has made it known to the Nuggets that if he is traded, he will not sign his $65 million contract extension with any team other than New York. The source said Anthony has steadfastly maintained that stance in his recent discussions with Nuggets officials, despite the Nets being told that Anthony would sign the extension with them if he is traded to New Jersey.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks ... atch-batum

And for you, Pharmcat

Another league source said Knicks officials were perturbed to hear that Anthony was being told they were "dragging their heels" in their efforts to acquire Anthony. (Which could lend some sort of an explanation to the origins behind the latter part of this quote from Anthony after practice Monday in Denver): "Who wouldn't want to play in New York?" Anthony said. "I told you that last year. I think that's how all this stuff started, by me making that comment. New York is playing well right now. I don't think they're looking at me, they don't want me to come in here and mess what they have up. That's what I've read."

[Starksfor3]

Still handcuffed by this Melo crap...

Hopefully Donnie has some trades lined-up for a backup PG and C once this is BS is completed.

[GONYK]

Still handcuffed by this Melo crap...

Hopefully Donnie has some trades lined-up for a backup PG and C once this is BS is completed.

This BS will be completed with us getting Melo

[Knicks_Fan2]

Sheridan mentions his source again and maintains that Melo has been steadfast about not signing extension with anyone but us:

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks ... atch-batum

[Pharmcat]

batum and favors? i must admit that would give DEN 2 young F to build around

but isnt batum untouchable?

[GONYK]

batum and favors? i must admit that would give DEN 2 young F to build around

but isnt batum untouchable?

It would take more than Harrington and Petro to get him. That's for sure.