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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#41 » by Wannabe MEP » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:30 pm

YFZblu wrote:What do you make of Warrick's atrocious APM? Only Dragic and Gortat are worse, and I sort of understand Gortat not "getting it" yet in a new situation.

1) ??? Hill's APM is also worse than Warrick's.
2) Gortat, Pietrus, and Carter's APM numbers are mostly from the Magic. Pretty hard to say how they fit in with the Suns so far.
3) Warrick has had too few minutes, inconsistent minutes, and very few with Nash. A lot of his minutes are at center with Dragic and Turk at the 4, or even alongside Barron. Pretty awful fit. Hard to say how much that all would change in a lineup such as:

Nash-Carter-Dudley-Warrick-Frye

Athleticism, shooting, SSOL, mobility and (enough) size in the frontcourt, and Nash. 2-3 zone?

But I might like Childress in the same role just as well.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#42 » by JohnVancouver » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:59 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Well obviously it would be great if everyone's shot is a dunk since it is a statistically 100% shot


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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#43 » by phx#7 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:13 am

Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:After a week off RealGM, I come and see a thread like this?

Come on guys. Gentry replacements? Were you in hiding all of last season, with no access to media? Or have you all run out of things to talk about?

Yes, some of Gentry's decisions have been questionable this season. But that does not mean he should be shown the door. No way.


Not only do people want to replace Gentry, they want to replace him with a vastly inferior coach. Remember how everyone was on Sarver for initially not picking up his option? Well he did eventually. Good luck getting Sarver to fire him and paying him 3 years to not coach.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#44 » by NiGhtWiSh » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:06 am

Suns have only one way now: make as many trades as possible, clearing roster of old vets and garbage; play to the end of season hoping for better chance in lottery; then change completly with picks and FA, building around Gortat and Dudley, with Dragić.
And when season ends, Suns MUST change almost WHOLE coaching staff. Only Kokoskov can stay, even as a head coach. I'm 100% sure, they will do this.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#45 » by Sundamental » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:11 am

NiGhtWiSh wrote:Suns have only one way now: make as many trades as possible, clearing roster of old vets and garbage; play to the end of season hoping for better chance in lottery; then change completly with picks and FA, building around Gortat and Dudley, with Dragić.
And when season ends, Suns MUST change almost WHOLE coaching staff. Only Kokoskov can stay, even as a head coach. I'm 100% sure, they will do this.


You're kidding man? We just need more dunks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on you stupid idiots We just need some defenseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! That should about do it. Right??????????????
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Post#46 » by NiGhtWiSh » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:16 am

Sundamental wrote:
NiGhtWiSh wrote:Suns have only one way now: make as many trades as possible, clearing roster of old vets and garbage; play to the end of season hoping for better chance in lottery; then change completly with picks and FA, building around Gortat and Dudley, with Dragić.
And when season ends, Suns MUST change almost WHOLE coaching staff. Only Kokoskov can stay, even as a head coach. I'm 100% sure, they will do this.


You're kidding man? We just need more dunks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on you stupid idiots We just need some defenseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! That should about do it. Right??????????????


Yeah, D is what Suns need desperately. But with this bunch of salary eaters (not players) and totally awfull defensively coaching stuff, they are going nowhere. The last one in this team will turn the lights off. And then, Suns must rebuild. It just has began with really good trade with Magic. But, it can't be finished with all this "staff" on the bench and in the locker room...
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#47 » by BurningHeart » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:34 am

This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#48 » by NiGhtWiSh » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:00 am

BurningHeart wrote:This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.


You'r right. With just little adjustments. As i posted, Suns need to rebuild. Picks and FA can give shotguns to the team. But, Suns need also brand new system. NBA changes, players changes, opponent teams changes. Builded with at least 3-pack of stars, they are impossible to beat with simple run'n'gun. They will kill all teams playing like that in one quarter... Miami, LAL, Celts, Spurs, Bulls, etc. etc.

Staff has to choose the right players and introduce a system that will match tho the roster. And not, like this season f.ex., try to match awfull roster to system that i can easilly call "out of trends" or "out of order" as well. What goes, like mantra, to: defend hard, shoot sharp and play with heart. Impossible with this roster and this coaching staff.

This proces can be not easy and 1 or maybe 2 years will be not enough. Sun will be dark for sometime, even if we catch 1st pick this year :) But changes in philosophy are unevitables. So are the roster & staff changes.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#49 » by Sundamental » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:15 am

BurningHeart wrote:This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.


Right, we need some more heart. Please. Got anymore bright ideas?
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#50 » by BurningHeart » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:46 am

Sundamental wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.


Right, we need some more heart. Please. Got anymore bright ideas?


Hey, stop being such a condescending dick. You're not long for this board. Who are you, a previously banned user?
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#51 » by Nando88 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:14 am

BurningHeart wrote:
Sundamental wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.


Right, we need some more heart. Please. Got anymore bright ideas?


Hey, stop being such a condescending dick. You're not long for this board. Who are you, a previously banned user?


dude don't let him rile you up.... he's baiting people. he'll be gone soon
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#52 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:03 am

Just do what i have been doing and report him. Let the mods deal with him, he already has been warned.

No use in playing his games, i'd hate to see one of our real posters get warned or suspended for letting him bait you into something.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#53 » by Miklo » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:13 pm

Sundamental wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:This team needs more offense than defense. It needs shooters. Playing to the "WE NEED MORE DEFENSE" crowd screwed our offense up over the last two, three years. We need lights out shooters. We need killer offensive versatility. And we need REBOUNDING. Half the reason our defense looked so bad since Charles Barkley left has been our inability to rebound the ball. Close out defensive possessions. That's it.

Our offense is worthless now ALONG with the defense being worthless.


Right, we need some more heart. Please. Got anymore bright ideas?


Considering you posted this after you received the warning let me just say, drop the attitude or it will be a suspension real quickly.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#54 » by YFZblu » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:09 pm

If the Suns want to win right now, like they say they do, then they simply need to stop playing bad players. Seriously, Dragic and Warrick aren't good--Gentry plays them, watches them ruin the game, and then goes to the press conference 10 minutes later and wonders why whe didn't win? :lol:

For a while there I wanted the Suns to try Warrick playing with Dragic...But at the end of the day, it's just one bad player playing with another.
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Re: New coach idea: Marc Iavaroni 

Post#55 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:43 pm

Defensively, we have more good defenders than we've had since Raja and Boris left. It's maddening that we can't play good team defense when we have solid one-on-one defenders. To be fair to the guys, some of that is simply down to two fairly major remakes of the roster since last summer.
I think that's also the reason, in large part, that Dragic is struggling. Players of his calibre just don't forget how to play the game ... he doesn't know what people are going to do, when he looks for them they're somewhere else, so he tries to do it himself and that just doesn't work
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