[Camelo Thread Part 9] - OJ to DEN, Melo to NY? Pg 7

[K_ick_God]

alanhahn Alan Hahn
Source familiar with Grizzlies says OJ Mayo is "way, way, way available". Knicks looking to put together formidable package for Denver.

You hear that New Jersey? Formidable.

[aggo]

So would Nuggets prefer Mayo and a pick over Favors and their picks?

It's really a closer call than people like to make, and it'll suddenly become very close in Denver's eyes if Melo says nyet to the Nyets

Think about this if you're Melo for a second. If the Knicks can give up a credible package for him and Denver just somewhat prefers the Nets offer, then why on earth would you cave if you're Melo and go with their "somewhat" preference over his strong preference?

Everybody ... *everybody* ... knows that Melo strongly prefers the Knicks ... that means the Knicks' offer only needs to be within striking distance and if Melo holds his ground, he'll be a Knick.

Logic tells you that the Nuggets will take an offer they like over losing Melo for nothing, even if it isn't the somewhat better offer they somewhat prefer.

It's simple.

the nets picks are going to be better then ours, that's for sure. the way i think we make an equal offer is by taking al back. i think saving money is of primary concern to ownership. in the nets deal they get harris who while valuable needs to be paid and they're still stuck with al.

Yeah, Al's contract is looking like a poison pill. Who swallows it. IMO, the Knicks would be able to digest it easier than the Nets as they already have a playoff core that Anthony would walk into. The Nets would have swallow Al & Rip Hamilton's contracts and that kills any fantasy they had of getting Chris Paul in 2012

if they are concerned about dumping money birdman's contract is about 6million smaller over its lifetime.

it's not all on who takes al. Birdman can be seen as a useful commodity for a team. Unlike al.

[Tommy Udo 6]

You have Leon Rose, Wm Wesley and CAA both privately & openly screwing the Knicks franchise.

LeBron almost certainly arranged to join Bosh and Wade on the Heat but he seemed to waver at the end. Rose made sure that he didnt change.

In this present case, Rose & Wesley are using their influence & misinformation to both Melo and the public in order to keep Melo away from NYK. They are getting away with it because Stern is looking the other way.

We'll find out what Melo is really made of

That's true.

In another case, Noah had hired a couple of agents to negotiate an extension - and their demand was at least $75 million for 5 years. later, when their pressure tactics were not working, Noah realized that he really did want to stay in Chicago. He ignored their advice & signed with the Bulls for $60 million.

Players must remember that the agents work for them & they (the players) are the bosses.

melo should not let his agents lead him where he doesnt want to go.

[god shammgod]

alanhahn Alan Hahn
As for Marc Gasol, I'm told there is zero chance Grizzlies let him go. Plan is to match any offer sheets. Not real option for Knicks.


Maybe that's why we are suddenly hearing the Knicks are making a push for 'Melo

anyone who thought gasol was really available was kidding themselves

[K_ick_God]

So would Nuggets prefer Mayo and a pick over Favors and their picks?

It's really a closer call than people like to make, and it'll suddenly become very close in Denver's eyes if Melo says nyet to the Nyets

Think about this if you're Melo for a second. If the Knicks can give up a credible package for him and Denver just somewhat prefers the Nets offer, then why on earth would you cave if you're Melo and go with their "somewhat" preference over his strong preference?

Everybody ... *everybody* ... knows that Melo strongly prefers the Knicks ... that means the Knicks' offer only needs to be within striking distance and if Melo holds his ground, he'll be a Knick.

Logic tells you that the Nuggets will take an offer they like over losing Melo for nothing, even if it isn't the somewhat better offer they somewhat prefer.

It's simple.

the nets picks are going to be better then ours, that's for sure. the way i think we make an equal offer is by taking al back. i think saving money is of primary concern to ownership. in the nets deal they get harris who while valuable needs to be paid and they're still stuck with al.

The Nyets can't afford to take back Al because they would still need massive work on their roster ... Paul or whoever. So Al would kill them. Less so with us since we'd be close to the end of our roster building.

[smw6230]

it's not all on who takes al. Birdman can be seen as a useful commodity for a team. Unlike al.

No thanks, just looking at that guy hurts my eyes. OTOH, he's great to use as a color calibrator whenever I tune my plasma.

[kayv369]

dunno this was posted was posted knicks forum with the 1st round picks going to denver
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4ezql94

[AllanHoustonFan]

We really gotta develop Mozgov and fast this off season

Gasol? - nope
Jordan? - nope
Kaman? - nope
Camby? - nope
Chandler? - nope

[DonJuanCapistro]

I think it makes sense to deal an asset (any combination of walker, douglas, 2nd rounders, cash, mozgov) to an elite team like the lakers, mavs, celtics etc for their 2012 first rounder.

in doing so we can then deal our 2011 1st and our 2013 first round pick.

[god shammgod]

So would Nuggets prefer Mayo and a pick over Favors and their picks?

It's really a closer call than people like to make, and it'll suddenly become very close in Denver's eyes if Melo says nyet to the Nyets

Think about this if you're Melo for a second. If the Knicks can give up a credible package for him and Denver just somewhat prefers the Nets offer, then why on earth would you cave if you're Melo and go with their "somewhat" preference over his strong preference?

Everybody ... *everybody* ... knows that Melo strongly prefers the Knicks ... that means the Knicks' offer only needs to be within striking distance and if Melo holds his ground, he'll be a Knick.

Logic tells you that the Nuggets will take an offer they like over losing Melo for nothing, even if it isn't the somewhat better offer they somewhat prefer.

It's simple.

the nets picks are going to be better then ours, that's for sure. the way i think we make an equal offer is by taking al back. i think saving money is of primary concern to ownership. in the nets deal they get harris who while valuable needs to be paid and they're still stuck with al.

The Nyets can't afford to take back Al because they would still need massive work on their roster ... Paul or whoever. So Al would kill them. Less so with us since we'd be close to the end of our roster building.

i actually think if we agreed to take al that mayo, ar (pick), 2014 pick might be enough. in the end saving that money will be worth more to denver then an additional pick from the nets.

[Tommy Udo 6]

We really gotta develop Mozgov and fast this off season

Gasol? - nope
Jordan? - nope
Kaman? - nope
Camby? - nope
Chandler? - nope

why not Kaman? i understand he's available

[god shammgod]

I think it makes sense to deal an asset (any combination of walker, douglas, 2nd rounders, cash, mozgov) to an elite team like the lakers, mavs, celtics etc for their 2012 first rounder.

in doing so we can then deal our 2011 1st and our 2013 first round pick.

yep that would definitely help.

[Ugalde]

I don't want to lose Chandler at all. Hopefully hes not involved in a trade.

[AllanHoustonFan]

We really gotta develop Mozgov and fast this off season

Gasol? - nope
Jordan? - nope
Kaman? - nope
Camby? - nope
Chandler? - nope

why not Kaman? i understand he's available

Yeah but I think he has an albatross of a contract

[nykfan70]

We really gotta develop Mozgov and fast this off season

Gasol? - nope
Jordan? - nope
Kaman? - nope
Camby? - nope
Chandler? - nope

why not Kaman? i understand he's available

Yeah but I think he has an albatross of a contract

Chris Kaman $11,800,000 - 2010/2011
$12,700,000 - 2011/2012

[nykinoz]

Watch Mike play Melo at PF if we nab him.

Amare
Melo
Gallo
Fields
Ray

Thats a dream D'Ant team right there.

[Marty McFly]

You have Leon Rose, Wm Wesley and CAA both privately & openly screwing the Knicks franchise.

LeBron almost certainly arranged to join Bosh and Wade on the Heat but he seemed to waver at the end. Rose made sure that he didnt change.

In this present case, Rose & Wesley are using their influence & misinformation to both Melo and the public in order to keep Melo away from NYK. They are getting away with it because Stern is looking the other way.

when he signed with them, i knew this would be an issue and why i initial wanted nothing to do with him. and here these **** are now.

[ilovenewyork]

Kroenke says he would rather have cap relief, don't we have that?? Eddy's "unhappy" expiring and doesn't Buke's contract get partially covered if he doesn't play in the next 3 or 4 games?? I mean thats pretty big no? thats 2 sizeable contracts off the books plus you throw in Randolph for a pick and maybe Gallinari and I would say it looks good for a team that wants cap relief without us giving up "too much."

Does this trade work? I dunno bc i'm too lazy to do the trade checker

NY out: Buke, Eddy, Randolph, Gallinari
NY in: Melo

Dev out: Melo
Dev in: Mayo, memphis 2011 first rounder, Eddy, Buke

Mem out: Mayo, 2011 first rounder
Mem in: Randolph, Gallinari

btw for what its worth i hate to give up gallinari

[Ewing33]

Watch Mike play Melo at PF if we nab him.

Amare
Melo
Gallo
Fields
Ray

Thats a dream D'Ant team right there.

i just came a little bit in my pants, 120 points a night...

[K_ick_God]

Watch Mike play Melo at PF if we nab him.

Amare
Melo
Gallo
Fields
Ray

Thats a dream D'Ant team right there.

Gallo is gone in any Melo scenario.