[Camelo Thread Part 9] - OJ to DEN, Melo to NY? Pg 7

[nykballa2k4]

We really gotta develop Mozgov and fast this off season

Gasol? - nope
Jordan? - nope
Kaman? - nope
Camby? - nope
Chandler? - nope

why not Kaman? i understand he's available

Yeah but I think he has an albatross of a contract

you mean we will be over the cap and can not afford him....

Troy Murphy will be available.....
Dalembert as well, pryzbilla....
There are big men out there like Jermaine Oniel Sheed might want a chance to shine we will have ronnyT's contract we can deal him for Frye or a player of similar contract size

[Pharmcat]

lol I kinda wanna keep Mayo for ourselves.

this

if we can get mayo, might as well wait till the OS to sign Melo (wouldnt getting mayo want melo to come here more?)

Haven't you been about getting him now and not letting anyone stop us from landing him? How come now we can wait till the OS?

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

[kingmalaki]

lol the latest media PR campaign by the Nets to try to close the deal.

Even if the Nuggets are satisfied with the deal pieces and even if Melo will eventually go to the Nets, I doubt it happens this soon.

1. The Nuggets want that pick to be better and the Nets to be worse. Melo could help the Nets win one game they might not otherwise.

2. Melo views the Nets as a distant backup option. He'll want to make sure that the Knicks course is at an absolute end.

I think he's torn. Sure he wants to win but what is he willing to give up to win? Compared to his contemporaries .ie Amare , Lebron, Wade he's giving up more to play for his ideal team. Either way his is all out of our control.

All we can do is keep winning, while the Nets continue to lose...

He's not giving up more. In fact, in the current scale, he would lose only $5 million total, spread out over four years, but he'd also have an extra guaranteed year. What the new scale will be is just speculation.

How is he only losing $5M, spread out over 4 years? He and LeBron were on the same pay scale up until this past summer. LeBron could have signed for what, $16M per year if he didn't get the S&T? Melo's opt-in next year is $18.5M. Isn't that around a $2M difference just from next year alone? The extension is $65M over 3 years. I'm not sure how much the raise is each season, but that's an average of $21.6M per year. So how is he only losing $5M total over a 4 year span?

And that's assuming player salaries don't decrease.

[nyknicks2k2]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

[Marty McFly]

this

if we can get mayo, might as well wait till the OS to sign Melo (wouldnt getting mayo want melo to come here more?)

Haven't you been about getting him now and not letting anyone stop us from landing him? How come now we can wait till the OS?

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

what?

[Pharmcat]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

mayo is a guard that can create his own shot...this team needs that

if you still have the chance to get melo in the OS while getting mayo now, its something to consider

[Marty McFly]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

that's only cause he's not a knick. if we land mayo instead of melo, he's gonna go through his typical bull.

[Pharmcat]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

that's only cause he's not a knick. if we land mayo instead of melo, he's gonna go through his typical bull.

nope, ive said mayo + C now is a great alternative plan....actually mentioned yesterday too

[Marty McFly]

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

that's only cause he's not a knick. if we land mayo instead of melo, he's gonna go through his typical bull.

nope, ive said mayo + C now is a great alternative plan....actually mentioned yesterday too

your word means nothing when you constantly contradict yourself.

[louieOrr]

[quote="Pharmcat "]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team


so mayo is a better player than anyone mentioned from this team in the trade talks?

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Melo isn't going to wait until the OS, Denver will make a trade for sure. Mayo is just a piece the Knicks move in a possible deal for him.

[KNICKS1970]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=5wzg3bb

Who says no??

[god shammgod]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team


so mayo is a better player than anyone mentioned from this team in the trade talks?

i think there are a number of people that feel that way. there was a big debate recently about chandler vs mayo. i think it doesn't really matter who's better. what i know is, right at this moment, chandler has more value. his stock is rising and mayo's is falling. last year we all would have said mayo is better. this year i wouldn't jump to that conclusion.

[nyknicks2k2]

anyone on this team, yes

mayo isnt on this team

So:

Mayo > This team

and

Mayo = Enough for Melo to now give up cash?

Hm.

mayo is a guard that can create his own shot...this team needs that

if you still have the chance to get melo in the OS while getting mayo now, its something to consider

Getting Melo in the off season was always something "to consider". You always stated that there is no way we should risk it because "Melo wants $$$". Seriously, your words. Why the hell does Melo say "Oh ****, Knicks got OJ MAYO? **** THAT, LET ME GIVE UP MILLIONS TO PLAY WITH THE AMAZING OJ MAYO"?

[GONYK]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5wzg3bb

Who says no??

I do.

You trade Chandler and Fields and take back Harrington = Your trade is sh*t

[Ewing33]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5wzg3bb

Who says no??

We do, way too much to give up, f*ck harrington you crazy son...

[Falstaffxx]

He's not giving up more. In fact, in the current scale, he would lose only $5 million total, spread out over four years, but he'd also have an extra guaranteed year. What the new scale will be is just speculation.

How is he only losing $5M, spread out over 4 years? He and LeBron were on the same pay scale up until this past summer. LeBron could have signed for what, $16M per year if he didn't get the S&T? Melo's opt-in next year is $18.5M. Isn't that around a $2M difference just from next year alone? The extension is $65M over 3 years. I'm not sure how much the raise is each season, but that's an average of $21.6M per year. So how is he only losing $5M total over a 4 year span?

And that's assuming player salaries don't decrease.

Moocow laid it out. If he takes the 1-year option + signs for 3 years with Denver, it adds up to 83 mil over 4 years. If he signs a 5-year max contract with the Knicks, the first 4 years add up to 78. It's $5 million. This "omgzorz, $20...million...dollarz" you hear from time to time is pure BS.

[K_ick_God]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5wzg3bb

Who says no??

Me.

[god shammgod]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5wzg3bb

Who says no??

I do.

You trade Chandler and Fields and take back Harrington = Your trade is sh*t

the whole point of taking harrington to me is to give up less.

[BBALLER4FR]

Taking bets that the Heat (LBJ/Rose/CAA) throw up a stinker tonight and allow the Nuggets the W just to keep this Melo thing stationary. The Heat can afford the L, they can blame it on LeBron's bum ankle and with every Nugget win Melo's departure isn't as dire.

...Well at least that's what the conspiracy goblin on my shoulder is whispering to me