Carmelo Anthony Thread (Merging)

[Jersey Generals]

The teams only have to agree to a trade in principle, and after that, the Nets can negotiate an extension with Carmelo. If Carmelo doesn't agree, then the trade doesn't happen as its contingent upon Carmelo's agreement.

[vincecarter4pres]

If this trade goes through, Melo will be inked to the extension, best believe that, but I think people are going to be unpleasantly surprised by how average this team is going to be next season unless we do as JG and myself have been alluding to, trading Brook and change for CP3 and throwing the full MLE at a guy like Tyson Chandler.

Do we really need to trade for CP3? By the time Billups contract is up Paul will be a free agent, if the Nets dont by out Billups after this season. Lopez has been a bit disappointing this season but you gotta try and keep him around. Deron Williams could also be a free agent in 2012 if he doesnt sign an extension, so thats 2 elite PG's you could possibly go after without trading possibly the best center this franchise has ever had.

Won't have the cap space to sign CP3 with Outlaw, Melo, and Rip.

Seriously, this is why I get pissed off and come off like a complete dick sometimes, especially to certain posters.

I know you have been reading this thread and other threads intently and so have read all the posts I and others have made pertaining to the salary cap and ability to sign free agents like Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

It's like you're paid by Nets management to gas up the hype train full throttle.

We'll be well over the cap, basically for good if this trade goes down as reported, with almost no assets and basically no way to ever get rid of those albatross contracts that will clog the cap for years and cripple us into mediocrity for Melo's entire extension and most all his prime.

You have to know this, yet keep repeating the same idiotic lies about being able to go after Paul, Deron, etc.

The only way we get one of those guys is if we are gifted them in a trade more lopsided then the Pau Gasol one, think Vince Carter a la Babcock.

I swear you just keep up the shenanigans to get a rise out of certain posters.

43 wins and the 7th seed in 2011-12 here we come!

[Revolutionistt]

Paul
Deron
Nash
Rondo
Rose
Westbrook

Are the only PG's clearly ahead of him at this point. He's in the same category as Billups, Parker, A Miller etc..

RIP is old.

The picks we're left with are the crappiest.. Houstons and Lakers non lottery picks and next years pick which will probably be in the high teens. this years lottery pick and the GSW pick are the most valuable.|

Billups and Parker are better, and youre forgetting Arenas and Felton. Yes Felton is playing better than Harris this year. Hes a middle of the pack PG. I might even take Wall over Harris much like everyone else on this board was doing when we were all talking about the Nets possibly getting the first overall pick and having to trade Harris if it happened. Rip is not that old. He still has a good 3-4 solid years left in him and I think his contract only has 2 years left, so we can drain out whats left in him. And how are those picks crappy? They can be used as trade pieces or you could find really solid players in the late first round.

[Revolutionistt]

First of all dont come around and say the team is still gonna suck, not make the playoffs, and how will Melo feel about resigning. Youll never get a positive response. And second, this trade doesnt happen unless he agrees to the extension. Youd have to be out of your mind to think otherwise regardless of the rumors.[/quote]


Fair enough, I was just wondering about the worst case scenario....

In terms of signing an extension. How does that work, I don't think they can even speak to him about it until hes traded? So how would they know if he will sign it? Not sure of the rules here.[/quote]

Stern has already said the Nets management will be allowed to meet him face to face before the trade is made official. Its part of the sign and extend rules.

[vincecarter4pres]

Paul
Deron
Nash
Rondo
Rose
Westbrook

Are the only PG's clearly ahead of him at this point. He's in the same category as Billups, Parker, A Miller etc..

RIP is old.

The picks we're left with are the crappiest.. Houstons and Lakers non lottery picks and next years pick which will probably be in the high teens. this years lottery pick and the GSW pick are the most valuable.|

Billups and Parker are better, and youre forgetting Arenas and Felton. Yes Felton is playing better than Harris this year. Hes a middle of the pack PG. I might even take Wall over Harris much like everyone else on this board was doing when we were all talking about the Nets possibly getting the first overall pick and having to trade Harris if it happened.

This is where you and me agree. Harris is not a top ten point guard, he's middle of the pack.

Rip is not that old. He still has a good 3-4 solid years left in him and I think his contract only has 2 years left, so we can drain out whats left in him. And how are those picks crappy? They can be used as trade pieces or you could find really solid players in the late first round.

This is where we continue to disagree.
Rip is old and on a steep decline.
And those picks are crappy, that one's not opinion, it's fact.

[Revolutionistt]

Seriously, this is why I get pissed off and come off like a complete dick sometimes, especially to certain posters.

I know you have been reading this thread and other threads intently and so have read all the posts I and others have made pertaining to the salary cap and ability to sign free agents like Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

It's like you're paid by Nets management to gas up the hype train full throttle.

We'll be well over the cap, basically for good if this trade goes down as reported, with almost no assets and basically no way to ever get rid of those albatross contracts that will clog the cap for years and cripple us into mediocrity for Melo's entire extension and most all his prime.

You have to know this, yet keep repeating the same idiotic lies about being able to go after Paul, Deron, etc.

The only way we get one of those guys is if we are gifted them in a trade more lopsided then the Pau Gasol one, think Vince Carter a la Babcock.

I swear you just keep up the shenanigans to get a rise out of certain posters.

43 wins and the 7th seed in 2011-12 here we come!

Maybe youre forgetting that Billups and RIP's contracts will be up by 2012, giving us cap space. The Heat signed LBJ, Wade and Bosh, you dont think the Nets could resign Melo, Lopez and Paul? And dont worry about coming off as a d1ck, you cant help it

Sorry, i had to edit I put 2010 by mistake, meant to say 2012.

[jeff1624]

I said Harris was a potentially top 10 pg when he's on his game. Middle of the pack IMO are players like Stuckey, Conley, Calderon etc.. Haris blows these players out of the water.

Back to 'Melo. This deal is done IMO, only reason it hasn't been announced is because the Nets can't trade away all those players with so many games in the next few days.

[vincecarter4pres]

Seriously, this is why I get pissed off and come off like a complete dick sometimes, especially to certain posters.

I know you have been reading this thread and other threads intently and so have read all the posts I and others have made pertaining to the salary cap and ability to sign free agents like Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

It's like you're paid by Nets management to gas up the hype train full throttle.

We'll be well over the cap, basically for good if this trade goes down as reported, with almost no assets and basically no way to ever get rid of those albatross contracts that will clog the cap for years and cripple us into mediocrity for Melo's entire extension and most all his prime.

You have to know this, yet keep repeating the same idiotic lies about being able to go after Paul, Deron, etc.

The only way we get one of those guys is if we are gifted them in a trade more lopsided then the Pau Gasol one, think Vince Carter a la Babcock.

I swear you just keep up the shenanigans to get a rise out of certain posters.

43 wins and the 7th seed in 2011-12 here we come!

Maybe youre forgetting that Billups and RIP's contracts will be up by 2010, giving us cap space. The Heat signed LBJ, Wade and Bosh, you dont think the Nets could resign Melo, Lopez and Paul?

Maybe I can borrow your time machine? Please?

[Jersey Generals]

Huh? Billups contract is done in 2011, and Rips in 2013 with a 9 million buy out in 2012.

[jeff1624]

Seriously, this is why I get pissed off and come off like a complete dick sometimes, especially to certain posters.

I know you have been reading this thread and other threads intently and so have read all the posts I and others have made pertaining to the salary cap and ability to sign free agents like Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

It's like you're paid by Nets management to gas up the hype train full throttle.

We'll be well over the cap, basically for good if this trade goes down as reported, with almost no assets and basically no way to ever get rid of those albatross contracts that will clog the cap for years and cripple us into mediocrity for Melo's entire extension and most all his prime.

You have to know this, yet keep repeating the same idiotic lies about being able to go after Paul, Deron, etc.

The only way we get one of those guys is if we are gifted them in a trade more lopsided then the Pau Gasol one, think Vince Carter a la Babcock.

I swear you just keep up the shenanigans to get a rise out of certain posters.

43 wins and the 7th seed in 2011-12 here we come!

Maybe youre forgetting that Billups and RIP's contracts will be up by 2010, giving us cap space. The Heat signed LBJ, Wade and Bosh, you dont think the Nets could resign Melo, Lopez and Paul? And dont worry about coming off as a d1ck, you cant help it

Billups expires in 2012 but Hamilton expires in 2014 if I'm not mistaken. With Outlaw, RIP, Melo and Brook post extension we won't have enough to sign CP3.. the only way would be via trade.

[SteveNets15]

The knicks did it.Yea they had to give up draft picks and young prospects but they got that precious capsapce they needed.They struck out on the Lebron sweepstakes but so did we.So its not impossible and we'll have Melo in place already.The rebuild is over lets move on.I would trade Brook for CP3 and go after Tyson i like that idea.And i'm not a brook hater either

[Rich Rane]

Billups expires in 2012 but Hamilton expires in 2014 if I'm not mistaken. With Outlaw, RIP, Melo and Brook post extension we won't have enough to sign CP3.. the only way would be via trade.

Don't forget that we may be taking on Harrington and he's not done until the '14-'15 season.

[Revolutionistt]

Maybe I can borrow your time machine? Please?

Do you have 1.21 gigawatts of power?

[vincecarter4pres]

The knicks did it.Yea they had to give up draft picks and young prospects but they got that precious capsapce they needed.They struck out on the Lebron sweepstakes but so did we.So its not impossible and we'll have Melo in place already.The rebuild is over lets move on.I would trade Brook for CP3 and go after Tyson i like that idea.And i'm not a brook hater either

The Knicks gave up the #8 overall pick, Houston's right to pick swap in 2011 and the Knicks 2012 1st rounder top 5 protected to clear only 2 seasons of Jarred Freakin' Jefferies.

Outlaw is not going to be movable on his own for pure cap or an expiring.

Rip maybe, maybe, maybe would be with a couple 1sts attached to him.

Brook's cap hold and ensuing contract extension and the roughly $20 million and change Melo will be making, along with roster spot cap holds and Farmar, if he's still on the roster will make it impossible to have max or close to max cap space, it's just that simple.

There's no way around reality.

It's like I hope Melo has personally been reading through this thread the whole time and says that I'll go to NJ, but only if you can put some players around me that will make us competitive for the next year and a half, but expire in time for Chris or Deron and you need to find a way to dump Outlaw now, to avoid inevitable problems with his contract in the near future.

[Jordan45822]

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/ ... qVira8O5WP

Guess you guys might take on Renaldo Balkman

[Rich Rane]

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/nets_continue_to_work_on_carmelo_I41bAXDS84clqVira8O5WP

Guess you guys might take on Renaldo Balkman

Alright...positives...he makes $1,675,000 until his contract expires.

[vincecarter4pres]

The only thing I'm holding out hope for is a Brook/Billups/Outlaw/filler for CP3 and Okafor trade in the offseason and then we need to find an offensive post presence all over again and one that will mesh with the lane clogging Emeka none the less...

[Pugsley_2491]

Does anyone have an idea what the picks might be that we are sending out?
I'm really just hoping its our 2011 pick or the GSW pick and LAL pick or HOU pick. One or the other I don't want to give up both our 2011 and GSW pick.

It's really just overboard if we are giving up our 2 best picks, Favors and Harris. Just my 2 cents.

[Pugsley_2491]

Also, how does Balkman being added to the deal affect us? Someone mentioned on the general board that Damion James would even the salaries out, but there is NO WAY I'm trading James, too.

[JoseRizal]

^^ The problem is that there is no way to take on Balkman without giving up Damion... I hate it...